Putin Won
Putin Won
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Putin Won
The Russian dictator has bent the world, including the United States, to his vision.
Edit: Anti-paywall link: https://archive.is/vnzoT
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No he hasn't.
One of the biggest gripes I've had with Americans over the years has been their perspective that America was the whole world. The rest of the world was just "out there somewhere", some vague hinterland that news stories came from sometimes but that didn't really matter and was totally at the whim of whatever was going on in the real place in the world, America. Even now, even among the Americans who are horrified at Trump and what he's doing and want to say sympathetic things to the allies he's screwing over, we're still seeing this.
Putin's useful idiot has smashed America and America's global dominance. This is bad for America, sure. But it's not necessarily bad for the whole world, and it's not necessarily even good for Putin in the grand scheme of things. Putin is still three years into his three-day "special military operation", with his troops travelling to the front lines on crutches and donkeys to die in meat waves. Finland and Sweden joined NATO. The EU is allocating hundreds of billions of Euros to defense. Germany just elected a government that seems willing to stand up and join them in combating Russia. Russia is still completely hosed. It is not bending the world to Putin's vision.
Sure, it would have been nice to have America fully on board with defeating him too. But America's only a part of the whole world, and an increasingly smaller part these days. Let them go wallow in the isolation they seemingly crave.
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I'm glad to see this perspective. I live in America, and I thought surely the rest of the world doesn't see it like this. We are out, and of our own god damn volition. But that doesn't mean Putin won. If anything, weakening America so much just means our government couldn't possibly come to his aid in any meaningful way when the European countries inevitably have to put him in his place.
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Well, if the US is now Putin's country, I don't think Europe is strong enough to take on both Russia and the US (with it's huge army that's actually functional and has bases inside Europe). Europe is fucked.
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What nonsense. This is great for Putin. There's no American Isolation, USA has begun switching to the authoritarian side and is now directly moving against the democracies. Finland and Sweden were hardly worth it in trade.
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That's what everybody seems to be missing! Trump and his cronies are already trying to influence foreign governments. Trump and Musk are directly intervening in Canada, Denmark/Greenland, Panama, Germany, UK, Poland, Ukraine, and even Australia. This government is like a cancer, you can't ignore it because it's going to spread throughout the whole body if you do.
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It is pretty fucking bad for Ukraine as well.
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yep. all it took was some brainwashed rednecks and a metric fuckton of apathy
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I'm not even sure if brainwashed is the right term since it's clearly a deep anti-intellectualism coupled with deep resentment of established society. They have been voting for this kind of thing in the USA long before Putin got his disinformation machine involved.
You kind of need a brain to have washed and "you’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."
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I think Putin's push is a direct result of US and UK just straight up ignoring the cooperation of the UN Security Council in 2001.
Against the entire world wishes, votes and resolutions passed in the UN..
The US and UK straight up ignored it all and invaded a sovereign nation.
Once that precedent was established, and it was obvious the decorum of the UN Security Council wasn't going to be respected, Russia and China changed gears....
When they realized that any buffoon (Bush) could one day just be put in charge of the US and decide to invade another country and nothing would stop them, they started preparing long term.
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Metric? You mean IMPERIAL 🦅🇺🇸🔫
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You'll use whatever Vlad tells Trump to tell you to use.
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and a metric fuckton of apathy
We can thank those who support the disparity in wealth for that one.
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Impeach the russian asset and remove his cabinet!
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they can't, because all branches of government are staffed with loyalists
and leftists won't vote
so there is nothing
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Paywalled article
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Sorry forgot lol, https://archive.is/vnzoT
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Tankie moment
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Not really.
It's just being independent.
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How is "unwilingness to engage" a good trait?
Both of these sound like qualities of a coward. You could at least say he's somewhat cunning, and yet you phrased it like that. He doesn't even smile when hit, he didn't seem particularly enthusiastic when Ukraine ruined his idea of the invasions, unless I misunderstood.
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