Linux is not ready

Even for hobbyist needs the feature set is basically a decade behind.

I mean, Gimp 3 ia looking pretty good to me. Maybe it's not fit for a workplace (even though it depends on the workplace imo) but it's definitely more than enough for hobbyists.

Would you mind citing some example of fundamental missing features?

Not trying to be a smartass, just genuinely curious

Can you make circles yet?
- I love that copypasta
- Yup, circle select, menu bar, select->outline, select your thickness, then use the paint bucket.
  This is what people mean when they say GIMP can do the same stuff, the process is just totally different.

I really, REALLY wish the Affinity suite would work on Linux. They are the only ones even remotely comparable to Adobe.

Yeah, it's what I use these days and yeah, that'd be nice. It isn't the all-in-one package you get with PS, but for casual use in photo editing it's decent and there are alternatives for some of the other use cases of PS that are closer while still being a fraction of the cost when stacked on top of Affinity.

I use gimp for pixel art for game textures and to make memes. It has tons of features that nobody knows about becuase they're fucked by horrendous UI. But theres never been anything I needed to to but couldnt after looking up a tutorial on the internet. Valid points against gimp but lets not pretend people used to photoshop arent also kind of stuck in their old workflow habits and unwilling to relearn new software UI.

Theres photogimp but it hasn't been worked on in a while.

Also also, most people who use gimp on linux probably did so on a stable distro like Mint installing with default package manager. This means their experience with gimp is from a terribly old outdated version. Flatpaks have some issues but being able to easily install the most current version of software like gimp or kdenlive is night and day difference.

Also also, most people who use gimp on linux probably did so on a stable distro like Mint installing with default package manager. This means their experience with gimp is from a terribly old outdated version. Flatpaks have some issues but being able to easily install the most current version of software like gimp or kdenlive is night and day difference.
Another reason to use Gentoo: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/media-gfx/gimp
You can install 3.0.0rc2 or even git version.
- Oh cool! Let me just spend three weeks crawling through wiki articles, setting flags in the config files, and patching out 15 different issues with various drivers then installing 20 dependencies compiling them all from source.
  Hyperbole, but yeah no thanks I'll take the L on some optimization and 2gb of storage space and some wierd file system locations for files to load a flatpak if old stable doesn't cut it. you might want to be careful recommending gentoo to people they might not know better. Most Linux nerds don't want to open that can of worms, but good for you if it works.
  
  also goes for arch. its fun, it helps you learn, ive used it before but if you are a newbie you will break stuff. things will break too, depending on your setup. use it if you are ok with that.

Photopea was written by a single college grad, and it’s miles better than gimp. While gimp has more resources and manpowers. Something is seriously wrong with their team.

Photopea blows me away. You can actually follow along in a lot of PS tutorials just using Photopea. It's got so many features implemented
Photopea uses rendering by browser. And probably doesn't have plugin system.
- And? so what? It doesn't matter if GIMP has a plugin system. The UI is so shit you have to google everything to figure out how to use it and even then it's still complicated.

Gimp has a few weak spots but it's an incredibly capable tool and if you think phone apps can do things it can't then I don't think you know how to use it.

I'm pretty sure Photoshop was better in 2003 than gimp is today

To run Resolve properly, you apparently have to run DaVinci's flavor of Rocky Linux 8.6. If you're doing other things with that machine, this may be undesirable. And as far as I know, there's no equivalent for After Effects.

I can guarantee you that no app on or for your phone can do a fraction of what GIMP is capable of.

Oh well if you can guarantee me then I must have no clue what I'm talking about and we can just wrap this up

You’re telling me this free, volunteer-run feature full software isn’t almost as good as the multi-million dollar product from a multi-billion dollar company?

If this dude can edit his videos and images on Linux so can you Mr Van Gogh. https://youtu.be/lm51xZHZI6g

Yes, that's what we're saying. It's fine though, I don't expect developers to work miracles for free, they are doing an amazing job, but In the context of "Linux being ready" it's important to recognize some honest truths.
- Thank you. All of this libre software is amazing, and impressive as hell, but that doesn't exempt it from having usability issues and other valid points of criticism.
  Calling that out isn't inherently anti-Linux or anti open source. I want all of these tools to improve to the point that there's no fucking contest and they are the de facto standard (like blender is), but shit is going to have a harder time improving if people have blinders to valid criticism.
  
  Exactly. We have to know the weak points and photo editing is a major one right now. And lots of people - not just professional photographers - depend on it
- But also, whenever someone pulls that card I just point at Blender until they go away.
  Hell, there is such a widespread appetite for a PS alternative you'd think it'd be easier for Gimp than Blender at this point.
  
  Or OBS. Or VLC. Or Kodi. Or Home Assistant. I can lists tons of FOSS apps that are better than alternatives developed by large companies.
Users do not care about how hard the devs are working for free. If the software doesn't have the features, it's not ready.
Really think about this. You're saying two entirely contradictory things:
Linux software is ready to compete with Windows
Users cannot expect Linux software to have comparable features to Windows
How will it compete without comparable features? Passion and morals aren't valued over effectiveness by most users.
- Lmao. Windows does not have comparable features to Linux. I have to use Windows for work... it's waaay behind Linux.
gimp is ass sorry
- GIMP's engine is very good. It's UI is cuntpuke.
  Somebody write a QT front end for Imagemagick and you'll probably see Linux adoption jump.
You’re telling me this free, volunteer-run feature full software isn’t almost as good as the multi-million dollar product from a multi-billion dollar company?
You're describing the truth about Linux vs windows, except many Linux oses are better than anything ms makes.
- I think Windows could be a far better OS than Linux if Microsoft gave a single shit. Instead they want to add AI and recall and various invasive updates.
  The only thing windows has going is the market share.
  
  Nope. The way you interact with your computer, the DE, is way behind in Windows. Every major Linux DE runs circles around Windows. Every time I have to use Windows it feels like I'm wading through 3ft of shit in slow motion. Because I know how much faster I could do the same things in Linux.
  
  Could, true, but never has, never will. As long as it uses a janky non-standard kernel underneath, I'm gonna be hating on it.
  
  Yeah. it's dogshit but they certainly have the capacity to improve. it's clear where their priorities are: milk users for profit

I've been using the Gimp for decades to great effect. Git gud (pin intended). Also, all phone photo editors are garbage.

- Trim my toenails, obviously.
  
  Image editing.
  
  Well I can tell we’re past the point of productivity. Have a good one
  
  What else is the program for? I haven't used Photoshop since the '90s.
  
  "What do you use this paintbrush for?"
  "It makes colored marks on paper, duh."
  What is your use case?
  Slapping text on a screenshot to make memes?
  Color grading photos?
  Digital painting?
  Crudely cutting out celebrity heads and slapping them on nude photos like some pervert with shaky hands, scissors, a glue stick, and some magazines?
  Marketing copy design?
  Professional portrait touch ups?
  Making those sweet ass 90s Rose Art airbrushed rainbow filled binder covers?
  My <2 year old daughter "edits images" when I let her sit at my desk and slap around the keyboard and mouse with an image editor open. That doesn't mean that what she's doing is a comparable use case to Photoshop or other professional tools.
  
  Christ thank you. This dude is ridiculous.
  
  In the past thirty years, I have done everything from photo touch-up to color science to retro pixel art with Gimp. It would probably be faster to list the things I haven't done, if there's anything.
  "What do you use your hammer for?"
  Hammering.
  
  Why didn't you just start by saying this?