Apple, Microsoft Joining Google Using Gulf of America in Maps Programs
Google Maps made the controversial change first, but now Apple Maps and Bing Maps are following suit.
Look at every corporation bend the knee and enthusiastically embrace the fascist fusion of corporation and state.
I've been saying it for a decade but it keeps getting more obvious. The oligarchs and their corporations have been financing the fascists, and working towards the takeover, the entire goddamn time. I'm not talking about Elon and the tech bros. I'm talking about the global 0.0001%, the tens of thousands of oligarchs who own the lions share of every market. They've spent decades watching the CCP and Russian oligarchy with envy, yearning for the one party state capitalism and authoritarian control of the masses — just replacing communism™️ with freedom™️, religion™️ and nationalism™️ — free from the risk that democracy represents to their wealth and power.
OSM is the place to flock to:
Not sure why anyone is surprised...they're all bootlicking corporations that don't want the mob boss to fuck with their mergers and/or investigate them for their various crimes.
There have been a lot of sycophantic comments floating around here the past 24 hours about how Apple was better because they didn't change it when Google did. Now the same folks are saying well Apple had no choice. So weird to lick the boots of trillion dollar companies.
Reported in Apple Maps as incorrect name. Won’t change anything, but it needed to be done.
Yeah me too. And a snide comment about supporting this douchebag. Made me feel better at least.
I wrote that “Gulf of America” is only used by an authoritarian regime and “not widely used.”
Please everyone do your part to report the incorrect information on google maps.
Get Organic Maps! It’s open source.
Someone please make it stop?
Get your guillotine ready, because this is just starting.
We have an asteroid incoming, so there's hope...
OsmAnd still holding out! I will never not call it the Gulf of Mexico.
I think the world should stop calling USians americans. America is a huge place spanning 2 continents encompassing so many different cultures uniquely American. I always thought it was weird calling Mexicans in the US, Mexican American. It's like saying American American. Wouldn't Mexicans in Mexico also be Mexican Americans? Just never felt right to me.
In Spanish you say “estadounidense” which is pretty much “unitedstatesian”.
That’s just a quirk of the English language. In Brazil we also call them “North Americans” instead of Americans, because Americans refer to all countries and peoples in the Americas.
That's exactly how I think of it, Americans are the peoples of the America's, North, Central and South. The people in the US should not hold a monopoly on that name as it somehow infers that the rest of the Americas are somehow less American and their just not. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong as i grew up in the US and we regularly refer to ourselves as american and the rest of the America's just don't do that because of our cultural and linguistic differences. Maybe more a remnant of imperialism than a quark of the english language.
From now on I will only refer to the USA as Estados Unidos de América.
Northern Mexico sounds better. That will make President Elon annoyed and the First Lady Tramp throw a tantrum.
In fact, Mexico could rename Texas to Nuevo Mexico just to show up in the parenthesis in the maps.
Estados Unidos de Norteamérica
Be carefull with that kind of talk, you’re likely to get deported. /s
Territorios Norteños de México.
End stage capitalism.
Organic Maps is great btw.
Fuck the C-suite execs🤘
I'm still going to call it the Gulf of Mexico🇲🇽
Golfo de México
The next Democrat should run with the goal to rename it to Gulf of Donald's Defeat. I would vote for them.
Why they changed it, I can't say.
(Donald just liked it better that way.)
Reported a missing massage parlor named Tim Cook’s Orange Lips
Y'know, this wouldn't be so bad if it were renamed, "Gulf of the Americas" - eg, North America and South America. Added bonus: It's not what Trump wanted so he'll be pissed.
The reason why people are protesting the random changing of the name is the vast amount of work it generates. Websites, textbooks, maps, etc. will all have to be updated (and all this accumulates to a couple million dollars). By this logic, “Gulf of the Americas” is just as bad.
Only in the US, and for mapping companies that now have to treat the US as a "sensitive" country.
The rest of the world can continue to call it by its internationally recognised name.
I see your point about generating work, but name changes happen - German shepherd dogs becoming "Alsatians" during WW2, Mt. McKinley, a bunch of things in the US. But if it's going to be changed, let's not make it what Trump wants. He probably can't even find it on a map anyway.
Regardless of your stance on the name change, doesn't the executive order (and subsequent updating of the names register or whatever it's called) make it official? In which case the maps are just being updated to reflect it.
Afaik they're not changing it anywhere outside the US as (so far...) that's the only place it's been changed, so it's not like they're pushing that name in places where it's not official.
It's also not unheard of to have map details that vary depending on where you are, to align with the official stance of wherever the map is being viewed from. Ukraine, bits of the India/Pakistan border, IIRC some islands off Japan disputed by China, etc.
Not saying the name change isn't stupid and not suggesting at all that the companies in question aren't scum, but getting angry at the map maintainers for this change seems pointless. What did you expect them to do?
Am I missing something?
Thank you for taking the time to post this. I didn’t have the energy to explain to all the teenagers here that these companies have two choices: comply with this completely legal name change, or go to war with the White House over it to make some kind of statement. Gee I’d love it if big companies were out there jousting windmills over principles but I’d never expect it in a million years, at any stage of capitalism or under any other economic system. The business of business is business.
Google Maps shows the translation of Gulf of America in parentheses in all languages, everywhere. That's like if Mexico renamed the gulf to La biblioteca and they changed it for everyone. That's objectively wrong.
Gulf of Oil.
Alternately: Gulf of [Redacted]
gulf of helloooo, egg prices
Apple Maps in Canada still seems to be labelled The Gulf of Mexico for now
You're next, New Mexico!
You mean Arizona 2?
Don’t let Trump find out this State exists.
Et tu, Apple?
They do that shit even in other languages, where it is clearly and simply wrong.
You're in a bubble if this surprises you. You thought when Kamala sent Mark Cuban out to tell everyone how much Kamala loves big business & corporate interests that it meant they would protest the government under Trump? You don't like the name change then next election don't advocate for a non-primaried genocidal Dick Cheney supporter.
You know what… If anything should be named after this country, it’s the toxic brown bathtub that is The Gulf.
It‘s the 9 dash line all over again. It‘s so petty and pathetic.
So happy that I made the change for Linux Mint yesterday and said goodbye to Microsoft forever. Let's not forget that their billions comes from us.
Am I the only one who thinks this, very specifically this, is good? I don’t want corporations deciding what to call things: they should use official maps. This is the only part of this fiasco working as it should.
I don’t know what the legal process is for changing a place name, but as far as I know should come through Congress, assuming they were doing their jobs. It should usually originate from locals like with Denali, but there’s no locals here. It’s only a weak impotent congress afraid to claim their Constitutional authority, afraid to stand up for themselves, afraid to stand up for their constituents. Afraid to “tell it like it is”, vote their conscience or even best interest, afraid to stand up for their country or constituents
I’m on the side of this being a distraction. It’s stupid and egotistical, and I’ll continue using the real name until it’s fixed. However it’s mostly noise for something that doesn’t ultimately matter much. Don’t let it distract you from much more important damage to our democracy, our society, our future.
But also Linux would be a great choice for many people
Are you the only one that thinks this is good? Probably
I don't think its good per se but I can see the value in your point. Especially in regards to it just being a distraction. Everyone is sure honed in a map rename when there's other more legitimate issues to address.
But, gulf of America nonsense makes easier distraction headlines.
And effing Trump just leapt out of his grave to cost me so much more money ….
Just did the FAFSA form for my kids college and it sure is ugly. Apparently the new rules were written by a republican on 2019, and shoehorned into the huge COViD relief bill at the end of trumps first term. Remember the one where it was produced just like a day or two before it had to be voted on, so physically impossible to read. I’m so pissed, my second kid may not be able to go to his college choice
