Collapse

Pretty sure I wouldn't find it funny even from the outside. I guess I like the vast progress made on every metric since 1900.
- Don't worry, you won't have time to worry about the fall of civilization when you're dying from previously preventable diseases
  
  Don't worry, I'll get to go even sooner than that. I have pre-existing conditions, once my insurance is stripped from me, I'm living on a timer.
- eh, there's a real trend here, but it's not an apocalypse
  and it's not all of so-called "western society". It's mostly just decline in the US. Think of it like Britain.
  Not long ago, they were at the top of the pile. Richest nation in the world, so much land the sun literally never set. But empire is an organism. It grows, it thrives for a bit, it declines. And it's not like Britain just disappeared from the globe. They still exist. They're just also significantly less important.
  
  It's definitely gonna suck for me here in the US, but I'm really not convinced it's going to make a huge impact worldwide. There will be some instability as the power vacuum gets filled, probably in large part by china. But that means the rest of the world is just trading one authoritarian, hegemonic neighbor for another.
  I guess the process probably will exacerbate climate change faster than otherwise, and that'll definitely impact the world in a number of huge ways, but that's already happening.
  
  But next in line and eventual successor was US, taking over as the globe's police and influencer, with the good and the bad.
  This time, it looks like the torch will go to China which would probably be better than Russia, but not a great example to follow either.
- You wouldn't cuz you'd be in the third world
  
  Not every non-western country is "Third World"
  South Korea and Japan aren't "Third World".
  Unless you count East Asian countries as "Western"

Trust me, the whole world is falling apart. Eastern side of the world will fall quickly if the West falls because we're all connected.
- The difference is at least China as far as Eastern powers (fuck Russia) seems to plan for there being a future, regardless of their methods. They invest heavily in infrastructure and education, and I don't mean mega yachts and private schools for their elite. They invest in their people.
  With the US both leading and coercing the charge (the one silver lining I see in Trump is that any influence we had born of respect or goodwill is dead, and we're a terrible influence), we've been sabotaging anyfuture to goose the next quarterly metastasis call to feed our sociopath profiteers at every conceivable human cost including blood.
  Tolerance of Individual enrichment over collective good is dooming our species, not to mention a lot of surface life we don't give a shit about that are completely innocent. No major power is without corruption, but if ends matter, if our species having any future is any priority, the US and those it's successfully infected with its greed disease ain't it.

Western?
Oh I have bad news...
Climate Change isn't just Western...
Y'all: 🌎+🌍+🌏=🌐-->🌋💥🪦
Me: 👀🍿
(well I'm also trapped on this hellhole planet... fuck)

"Western Society?"
Says Australia, Canada, and the UK, with their leftwing governments.
- The UK is more "left of the right" than left at the moment. Though, there is hope the greens might wake up and gently pull them a little more left.
  Remember, the band of fuckweasles that is reform are polling close to labour.
  
  It's amazing how far right Labour has drifted.
  
  I wouldn't get too complacent about the fact that the UK finally moved ever-so-slightly to the left. The press is just waiting to tear Starmer limb-from-limb. You saw that with how they amplified all the BS stuff about his CPS days. One good scandal could topple Labour and open the door to reform. Not delivering any material improvements for people who are struggling could have the same effect
- Please preserve democracy. Preserve civilization. Maybe someday, we here in the US will be able to cast off the fascist regime, limp back into the international order, hat in our hands, and ask the nations which preserved themselves to re-educate us in basic humanity.
- The US falling will be like Rome falling. America going down will be a whirlpool of Biblical proportions, dragging everyone down with us.
  Reading your other responses, it's like no one has a sense of history or world economies.
  And what will the West do when it's Russia and the US? Europe is falling flat on their face in the Ukraine, a threat right on their doorstep. LOL, they can't make enough artillery shells to keep up with a 3rd world army using WWII gear.
  
  Russia wants rare earths in the two regions it's declared, and has hinted at wanting to invade Moldova (Odesa being a longterm interest for Russia)... It also wants Sebastopol obviously for the naval port that doesn't freeze over. But there's Zero chance they could go up against Europe collectively, not without China at least, and they're not as into the idea.
  But I think you're being hyperbolic if you think the US will collapse in such a short time fram (Rome took at least a century), or that WW3 is going to arrive in Europe anytime soon. We're still multiple highly unlikely geopolitical maneuvers away from that.
  It's consolidation. At worst it's preparation for China's 2030 push (and that's not a sure thing either, have to see what happens in the US in 2028 before we get to finding more out about that).
- Canada has maple trump on the ballot and leading in the polls.
  The US is heavily interfering in our political scape to push conservative votes
  
  Little PP is bad, and maybe wants to be Trump, but he's so clearly not Trump.
  And, his pro-MAGA position has now put him on the wrong side now that Trump decided to attack Canada.
  It's still likely he'll win, but I think the last couple of weeks have really damaged his campaign.
- Yea this is a US problem not a western society problem.
- Yes! USA is not "Western Society".
  Yes, the damage the US will cause with its collapse will suck, but Western Society as a whole is doing pretty well.
  Aside from the commonwealth countries, Northern Europe is doing great. Germany is having some issues with AfD, but overall things are steady there. France has its usual issues, but they've soundly rejected the extreme right. Ireland is doing amazingly well. Benelux is just fine. Poland made a sudden turn towards openness and EU integration in their last election. Sure, Italy's leader is right wing, but she's hardly been wrecking things the way Trump has.
  But, it's no shock that an American thinks that American troubles means the collapse of democracy and civilization.
- Aus Labor has not been left since they introduced neoliberalism to Australia in the ‘70s.
  Since then they’ve basically purged most of the true Labor left, leaving it a centre-right NeoLib party.
  The Greens are the closest thing to a leftwing party with any real chance of power.

I don't think what we are seeing is the downfall of western societies but another mutation of capitalism, the wave of neoliberal policies gaining traction around the world as not seen since its first application in the 70s and being pushed down our throats

Bro thinks he's not part of the cause of the collapse lmao 🤣

I watch fall of Eastern Society. East of us is Alaska.