Sarah McBride laughs off Trump’s anti-trans executive order: ‘He just declared everyone a woman’

Anyone who thinks this shit is funny is in for a rude awakening.
They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.
You don't get out on technicalities in fascism; if the autocrat in charge wants to do the thing, he will do it. All of these things will be used as cudgels against perceived political enemies, and marginalized US citizens.
- I want people to try to be less pesimistic, the point is that technicalities like this will waste time. Every one of these exectuive orders is going to be challanged in court, and while the GOP controls the higher courts, these cases will start in the lower ones. With any luck, the lower courts will stay the order until things can get resolved. Every appeal, every challange takes time to process and judges are under no obligation to resolve things quickly.
  The goal currently isnt to try and overturn the order, thats just pissing into the wind. The goal is to waste their time for 2 years and hope the house flips, if it does, we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.
  
  The Senate flipping is also a very real possibility in 2026. There are 22 Republican seats up for grabs and only 13 Democratic ones.
  
  Man, I'm tired of people calling realism "pessimism." It's kind of a huge problem actually when you think about it.
  
  The goal is to waste their time for 2 years and hope the house flips, if it does, we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.
  And then we'll have Couch Fucker McGoo as president.
  (not intending to kink shame)
  
  we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.
  I mean I was kinda hoping agent 47 would be incredibly busy this term. I can imagine a level set inside the inauguration with the dinner and all that.
- This. In much the same way an elder god doesn't give a damn about conservation of energy or the square cubed law, a dictator with effectively un-checked power doesn't care about wording of executive orders or LAWS. Be careful.
  Cthulu has woken from eons (4 years) of slumber (not being president) to ravage the planet, while looking like a moldy cheese puff.
  Edit: thankfully he's not nearly as powerful as this metaphor implies, but the point stands. The law won't stop him, I don't trust the Dems to stop him, the only thing that will is worker's might.
  
  He doesn't have fucking unchecked power, he has a slim majority in congress, a full diaper, and a constitutional deadline before he stops having any power. Don't give him an inch, make them fight for every grain of sand.
- They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.
  The reason why this is good news is that the more bizarrely worded the order, the easier it is to get it throw out in court, America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.
  
  America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.
  Yeah except not really. Have you paid attention to recent SCOTUS decisions? They aren't even bothering to make cogent arguments in some cases, and hearing others that never should have standing in the first place.
- They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.
  The "de-fund the police" (but really adjust teaming to include psyche pros to ensure proper handling of at-risk people who do not warrant a response escalation) movement may show them how that's done.
  
  Defund seems literal to me

Theres two possible interpretations due to the at conception bit I think. Either he made everyone a woman, or he abolished gender all together. Either way this EO make Trump the single largest gender changer in history as he just changed the gender of either ~150 million or ~300 million people.
- It's fun to think about the hypotheticals, but the reality here is that it does not matter the exact words in the EO. We know what they mean, and they won't let some silly technicality stop them.
- I really would like to see some people ask for a divorce off the fact that they were married under false pretenses. They believed they were marrying a man.
- "At conception" leaves no room for interpretation - he abolished gender altogether.
- Remember that sex =//= gender.
  
  From what I read of the executive order, it seemed like he specifically got rid of gender and only recognizes sex since that isn’t an identity thing.
- E pluribus unum, baby.
- The order speaks about sex, and defines gender identity as pointless fantasy. So abolishing gender identity was the intended purpose.
  It defines every human as belonging to neither of the 2 sexes. There is pretty much no other way to read it.
  It does not define anyone as female. These people just apparently either can't read or just refuse to. Idk which one is more sad.
  
  It defines every human as belonging to neither of the 2 sexes. There is pretty much no other way to read it.
  Read it carefully, and then read it like a Republican.
  “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.
  This does NOT mean "a female is a person who can produce the large reproductive cell."
  The BELONG is the key word here. They'll argue that anyone with XX chromosomes belongs to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell. An embryo may not produce large or small reproductive cells, but they still belong to the sex that produces the large or small reproductive cell. Even if an adult is infertile, they still belong to the sex that produces the large or small reproductive cell. It's not like per-pubescent children or post-menopausal women don't have a sex marker on their passports.
  That is how this is meant to be read, and that is how it will be interpreted by conservative courts.
  In truth the definition is a bit circular, as it defines "sex" as:
  “Sex” shall refer to an individual’s immutable biological classification as either male or female. “Sex” is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of “gender identity.”
  And then in turn it defines male and female in terms of "belonging to the sex that produces..."
  But I don't think the courts will really quibble with that. It's clear what the intent of the order is. And that is how it will be interpreted.
  You do not have to actually be capable of producing the large reproductive cell to be a member of the sex that produces the large reproductive cell. Is this definition all-encompassing and without issues? No. But legal definitions rarely are perfect, and courts have to find ways to still apply laws that reflect the intent of their drafters. And while the wording of the order is clumsy, the intent is quite clear.

I'm not sure what is more disconcerting. That the people in charge truly are a bunch of fucking idiots.
Or that those idiots have outplayed and outsmarted the Democrats at damn near every turn for 20+ years.
- The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.
  – The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
  
  If only that were at all true...
- One team is trying to govern, and the other team is trying to win.
  If Democrats lied constantly, denied science, sowed fear and hatred, and used the law to enforce their personal religious beliefs... They'd be indistinguishable from Republicans.
- This assumes the Democrats aren't also keenly aware of what is happening and either doing a real sorry job of putting up any viable opposition or are in on the game. The two-party system is a front
- This assumes a fair playing field.
- They didn't outsmart them, they just are trying to destroy everything. Their actions aren't bounded by such qualifiers as "good things happening".

One gender for everyone!
- You've heard of non-binary gender, get ready for its upgraded form: unary gender
  
  Ope we're all gay now. Time to grab the most outrageous outfit you can come up with and get in the parade everybody.
  
  Urinary gender???
  Any of y'all wanna join the Peepee Club? Urine!
- TWO GENDERS ENTER! ONE GENDER LEAVES!
  
  Mad Musk: Beyond Genderdome
- You kids are spoiled with all your gender identities. Back in my day, we only had one gender, and we were grateful for it!
  
  You were lucky! We had to share a gender with everyone in the village!
  And when that prick Jane had it, it always came back bent!
- For some reason this makes me think of the inscription on the One Ring.
  
  One gender to start them all, one gender defines them
  
  It began with the forging of the Genders. Three were given to the Transgenders, eepy, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven to the Non-binaries, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine genders were gifted to the furry-folk, who above all else desire power. For within these genders was bound the strength and the will to govern each gay community. But they were all of them deceived, for another gender was made. Deep in the land of Mordor, in the Fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged a master gender, and into this gender he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.
  
  One sex to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.
- "Human Beings", like the Greendale mascot.
- If you're not female, you're dead! Not a threat, just a fact.
- We’re all yesgendered now! Hooray!

I think the bigger issue is hiding in plain sight:
a person belonging, at conception
Personhood does not begin at conception.
- We all know that's why the mistake was made. It's not exactly rocket surgery.
  
  It’s a P2025 script. Oklahoma made it into law into September, with the same ridiculous misunderstanding of basic biology. It doesn’t matter, they know who they are supposed to oppress.
- The Vatican has entered the chat
- And if it legally does, since I'm a chimera, can I use the carpool lane?
  
  You should apply for a second birth certificate, on the grounds that both of the "people" who were conceived were actually born. You should seek a second SSN, claim them as a dependent on your taxes.

Trump: "You must identify with the gender you were at the time of conception."
Science: "Everyone starts out as women and don't become men until 6 weeks after conception."
Trump: "That is exactly what I meant. Everyone who knows science must identify as a girly girl."
- Trump decided he wanted to be the first female president obviously. Don't you liberals understand 5d chess!?
  
  "Trump beat Hilary to being the first woman president" is honestly hilarious to me. Sad, but also hilarious.
- He literally just wants to be the first female president
- Can anyone clarify how the 6wk part override the zygote being XX or XY at conception? (Automod deleted my last inquiry)
  The chromosomes being set at conception seems to be the sticking point for those in favor.
  
  Trumps EO states that sex is no longer determined by chromosomes and is now done by reproductive organs. Someone please correct me if im wrong.

At least McBride can now use the women's restrooms in the Capitol. And so must all the other politicians!

Does this make him officially the first woman president? So progressive.
- If it's retroactive, then we haven't had a single male president.
  
  No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Donvict and his supporters (yeah, I know, don't blame the precious voters!) don't really understand science.
- Someone should sue JD Vance for addressing Trump as Mr. President. Illegally addressing him as a man. Clearly sewing doubt in the direct orders of the president, it's detrimental to the entire country.

Bad headline IMO, she's more so pointing out more flaws in it which is different than laughing it off
- "This is logically flawed because
  <drops a stack of biology textbooks on the table>
  " won't really bother a bunch of Young Earth Creationists. You're arguing with people who will retreat to the baseline argument "because God said so" in a pinch. Getting into the messy details of embryonic development won't save you, because that's not how their nominations to the FBI, the DOJ, or the Federal Judiciary are going to interpret any of it.
  
  Actually it being poorly written helps a lot with court challenge. That was one of the reasons why so much was overturned in his first administration. There was a fear that this time he'd sign better written executive orders that would survive challanges instead we're getting a lot of them like this
  
  "God made me a woman at conception and changed me to a man. I'm correcting God's indecisiveness."
  
  This exactly. It's disconcerting to see how many people seem to be laughing this off.
  They have zero interest in logic and consistency. We know what they mean, the actual words they used don't matter.

Its so stupid that the government of one of the world's most powerful countries is occupying itself trying to restrict people's healthcare and bathroom usage based on some poorly understood and arbitrary rules about zygotes. Meanwhile, the planet burns.
- It’s easier to wage an imaginary culture war than it is to try to make any real changes
- it's a distractions and a very effective one at that.

So this means we did get the first female president! Yippee

I KNEW IT!
I'M A LESBIAN!!!!!
I've known my whole life and it's a relief to FINALLY to be able to come out officially.
THANK YOU PRESIDENT RUMP!

Haha this is so awesome, she should tell that one to a trans person being denied healthcare.
- VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO, because they're all hilarious, woahfully ineffective at combatting conservatives and the far right, but hilarious.

The president Donald Trump is the president with more women in their cabinet ever.
Dude is literally drowning in pussy
- Binders of women
- I wish, that'd be a hell of a headline.
  "Muffled at Last, Serial Snapper Grabber Snatched to Death"
- So far, only one cabinet member has been confirmed by the Senate, Marco Rubio for Secretary of State...
  So I guess you're still not wrong. ;)

Isn’t that every despot’s idea, though? Make all laws used to control people nebulous enough that they can be applied to anyone for whatever reason? Just because it’s inept doesn’t mean it isn’t useful.

We'd all better march down to the DMV and update our genders then...
It's required by imperial edict now.
- No! That's where the pants pocket removal squads will get you.
  
  You can have my pockets when you pry my cold dead hands from them.

I feel like an invulnerable Goddess, in my sleep Trump tried to turn me into a man. I went Ultra Instinct and slapped that shit without waking up, and when I finally do get up I find that the whole country is one giant lesbian slumber party.
This shit aint nothing to me ma'am, Madame President could suck my gock if I wasn't post-op.

Trump scientifically and detail obtuse, color me derped!

I would laugh my ass off that this bites him in the ass because it makes all scientific distinctions useless when making more laws. Just because his dumb ass doesn't understand the nuance.

There's an easy way to redefine this. If Trump can grab you by it, and you just let it happen because he's a star, you're a woman.
- So everyone's a man given his tiny baby hands?

Damn. So that means all males (including me) are technically transgender.
I think I'll have some coffee, then.

No, it really doesn't. All ethical arguments aside, veterinarians/doctors/scientists/animal breeders often sex-select sperm for breeding purposes, very common as far as animals, I assume common enough in assisted human pregnancies. Anyways, bio sex is literally determined by the male input, not the female, it is quite literally decided at conception even if you can't see it yet. (Why I know this? Farmer. You have no idea how violent and dangerous Holstein bulls are. Even before selected sex sperm was an option, dairy farmers went with artificial insemination rather than risking getting killed by one of those bastards. Most people, even farmers, have not seen an intact, full grown, Holstein bull. Jersey are the same way, but not quite as bad. For whatever reason, beef breed bulls, dangerous as they are, are much calmer than dairy breed). Ever met one of those guys with like 7 daughters? It's quite often not a coincidence, think back to history class and medieval rulers getting divorced because their wife wouldn't produce a male heir, and then the new wife wouldn't either, nor the next wife, and the doctor who said something like "Maybe it's you, your Majesty" was executed.
- Huh, didn't know they were sexing semen for artificial insemination. Do you know if they can catch intersex semen? Intersex individuals/animals do exist and have been well documented.
  
  As far as I know, intersex is caused most often by a double fertilized egg, or that thing that happens when one twin absorbs the other in utero, chimeraism or mosaic. Something similar causes Down syndrome, an extra chromosome gets in there somehow.
- that's one meth-powered wall of text if I ever seen one lmao
  
  No, moron, that's actual reality.
- 8 science deniers so far.
  
  Huh, weird, I only count two.