memes @lemmy.world

4w ago

There's almost always a more deserving community that could use some good content and growth!

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Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there's one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you're registered somewhere else of course).
- Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.
  
  Helpful links:
  Lemmyverse is a good place for finding communities your instance might not know about
  Lemmy Federate is good for seeding communities to other instances.
  
  See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
  More in line with your comment though I wish there was a way to specifically merge a few comms into a single feed just for viewing purposes. So if you wanted to you could merge two c/memes feeds from different instances. You'd either have to take the post button away from that view or make it prompt you to select one of them from a list though.
  Would also be cool to be able to export / share merger lists so if you trust someone's opinion on which subs from a topic are worth following or go well together or even just want to migrate your own list you can do that too.
  
  The more power (engagement) any particular community's moderators get, the heavier-handed they get.
- Lemmy's search is dogshit... It's my number one problem with this place. And this is the ONLY place I use these days.

Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml
- I'm just here having newly federated everything and glad to be the fuck away from reddit
  
  welcome! there is constantly infighting here. you chose a good instance.
- Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they'd get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:
  MARXISM! UuUuHh!!
  That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance
  
  why say this on .world?
  
  Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they're trading trash opinions.
- The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government
  
  Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.
  Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.

Likewise the same with .world. Aim for a smaller instances community if you can contribute.

Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant
- Ah yes, the classic Scunthorpe Problem
  
  I believe you mean clbuttic
  
  I very much like that, by all reliable reports, Scunthorpe is a real cunt of a town 😁
- Also, it disregards comment language
  
  That's shitty. It effectively removes the ability to communicate in anything but English.
  E.g. some frequently used words that are non-slurs: fag (nordics, meaning class/course), retard (french train stations will display this when trains are delayed). Living in Norway, I have frequently been frustrated when MMOs wouldn't let me talk to friends in my native language without censoring or even handing out bans.
- THEY WON'T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT
  I'M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS
  
  I have this dude tagged as "dumb tankie" and I have never felt more smug in my life which is saying a lot.

This is the biggest flaw and issue with the fediverse and Lemmy, it's too damn fragmented with no good way to easily consolidate content from similar, or even identical, communities across instances. So people end up gravitating towards the same few that have the most content.
- While this is true, I think this post is more a reminder that .ml is garbage.
- True, but the same issue happens with reddit as well, for example gaming vs games vs truegaming. Over time those communities either found their niche (gaming sub became mostly memes, games sub became news and discussions and truegaming tried to become a more serious discussing sub). Actually there were way more gaming subs but unless they found their niche they died out. So people gravitating towards specific communities is a natural occurrence.
  As for trying to automatically consolidate communities across instances, it sounds like a great idea on paper but seems like technical she moderation headache, because you won't have a clear source of truth. Let's say instance A and instance B both have a community called news. The same news article with the same title is posted on both communities on both instances by different users. Assuming we want to consolidate those posts into one, which instance post will be shown or in more technical terms, which instance becomes the source of truth for that post? Who makes that decision? What if there's also instance C with the same community and the same post but that instance isn't federated with instance A, how do we consolidate posts? Each community has its own moderators and moderation rules, who is allowed to moderate the post? What if the moderation rules contradict between instances and both instances want to apply the rules independently, are they supposed to split the post?
  Maybe there is an elegant solution to all the problems but I don't see there being one. I'm not against the idea, the problem is you want to solve its something I have given some thought and because of that I just don't see it working out the way you're imagining it.
  
  It would be a fundamental change, but communities should be global and not tied to instances. This would allow for the necessary centralization and reduce duplication. It could also be used to ensure communities survive a in instance going down scenario.
- Yall can view All to right? I know it defaults to local, but you can press one button and see everything not defederated.
  
  That just gives you a jumbled mess of everything, which is IMO pretty useless. I want everything pertaining to a subject/interest in a single place, despite being scattered over multiple subs in multiple instances.
- Crossposting
  
  That relies on users knowing every sub similar to the one they want to cross post to. It also still fragments comments to each instance.
- Consolidation is still worse long term. There's not that many competing communities.

I see the point you are trying to make, but have you considered the criminal US actions in Syria and how the US has evil imperial powers proxy wars and love nazis and make wars happen?
In conclusion: Whatever it is that you said, US bad, therefore you wrong.
- I concede that despite not being alive when it was going on, I am just as guilty as everyone in the CIA that rigged elections and staged coups in South America. Everything I've come to know and understand in this lifetime is tainted by imperialism and is therefore invalid.

The weekly .world feud post right on time.
Edit: for someone who doesn't like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.

Y'all know you can post to more than one place, right?
- OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.

There's always someone on .world with an axe to grind lmao
- It's truly the most reddit of instances. And yet, here I am.
  
  I started on .world to. You can be free one day. I believe in you.
- Oh the irony.
  
  The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).

lemmy.world user
Lol they banned discussion of jury nullification despite the fact that they have no reason to so their constant complaining about ml is moot
- Hmm, no. I have many posts and comments regarding jury nullification and Luigi in general even in .world communities and not a single has been removed. .world is based on Denmark iirc and per Denmark law, it's illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime, but not crime already committed
  So in Denmark, "Let's do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification" is illegal, but "Person did [crime] but I think their actions were justified, so let's do jury nullification" is not.
  
  Which is why their TOS prohibits all discussion relating to it lol
  
  I wasn't so lucky. I didn't even post about jury nullification. Just a Luigi reference.
  
  world is based on Denmark iirc
  Nope. I'm not sure which but I'm 100% certain that it's based in either Canada or the US
  per Denmark law, it's illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime
  No such law here either. Just like in the US, it might lead you to not being selected, but it's not illegal.
  Let's do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification" is illegal
  True, but it's only the "let's do crime that's (conditionally) illegal. The mention of jury nullification doesn't make it any more or less illegal to probably and knowingly advocate crime.
  Anyway, since that kind of thing is EXTREMELY difficult to prove, it's exceedingly rare that anyone gets punished for that particular crlme, making your point a moot one.
  In conclusion: I feel completely safe in stating the truth that when the law and the systems it protects is unjust, the just break the law and others should try and help them avoid undue or excessive punishment in Denmark.
- No other instances need to make feud posts about .world because the natural behavior of the mods and users does a good enough job to drive people out.
  No marketing campaign needed.

There's nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
- Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It's not a few bad Apple communities, it's literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
  
  The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don't like what you see, that's a you problem not .ml's
  
  Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
  Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is
  
  it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
  Dramatic 🙄
- "Nothing wrong" lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I've practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it's because of their lies and responses to myself and others...
  
  Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.
  Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
- Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
  Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
  It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
  
  I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn't "respectfully" comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn't trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
  Let's make this easy, show me one example of what you're talking about so my mind can be changed.
- splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
  No one's saying defederate.
  
  I am, but I already am.

Average .world poster trying to keep their CIA ran platform alive.
- avg tankie
- Can you explain what you mean?

Better .ml than .world, honestly

I don't know why ml is so hated
- .world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.
  If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml
  
  And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.
  I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading ...
  .ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.
  
  Make a negative comment about China on ml I dare ya.
- Some Lemmy instances are generally hostile to Marxists, who are more concentrated on Lemmy.ml.
  
  Lemmy.ml and hexbear are not marxist. They are fascists cosplaying as soviet communists. Many people don't make that distinction though.

Oh, it's the regularly scheduled sabre-rattling post.
- He has a little star in his calendar for every month.
  
  Yep, they even get a bunch of their posts from Lemmy.ml communities and cross post them to non-Lemmy.ml communities. That's fine, but this is just a huge dedication to inter-instance drama.

If .ml didn't exist Lemmy would be reddit-level huge already.
- Thank god it exists then, the last thing we need is another Reddit.
  
  Yes, thank god .world exists and a reminder to donate!
  literally no one but extremist anti-social tankies were using Lemmy before .world happened.

Nah I'll keep my content off of blahaj as long as their mods want to legitimize trolls.
- Um ok, I didn't name any other instance, just advocating against .ml
  
  Um ok, I'm advocating against blahaj because it's a toxic space
- What's this about, sorry? Is this the thing with keeping chasers on here (which I personally don't agree with)?
  EDIT: Ah, never mind. You are a bellend. Should have guessed since you are moaning about the instance full of trans people. Do one, gobshite.
  
  It's over having a community wide hard line on pronouns. Even if a suspected troll is using neo pronouns (or any pronouns frankly) that's not a license to misgender them.
  The user that sparked the recent controversy (drag) has a history of being pretty volatile/offensive but that's still no reason to compromise on neo pronouns.
  I for one would rather put up with someone 'trolling' while using neo pronouns (until the inevitable ban for saying something shitty) rather than tolerate anyone getting misgendered in a trans-inclusive space.
- Glad you got that off your chest. Really nice of you to just plainly spell out you don't respect how people choose to identify
  
  Oh please DragonFucker is 100% a troll.

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