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This bullshit comes up every five years or so and has done since the naughties. It goes like this.

Government states they need a backdoor to encryption to stop terrorism/pedophilia.
Privacy and tech groups say it's a bad idea, children's charities and anti-terrorist groups say it's a good idea.
Someone in the Civil Service informs a top politician that if there is a backdoor, hackers will find a way in and that could mean leaks of things the government doesn't want the public to see like their affair with their intern or how they are doing to abolish devolution.
They use an event to cover it up again.
Next government, return to step one.

This has happened under Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss wasn't around long enough (lol), and now Sunak.

It's funny because Boris Johnson is currently using an encrypted phone to stop giving evidence to the Covid Enquiry (namely his WhatsApp messages, yes, the UK government uses fuckin' WhatsApp.

We keep telling them it won't work, that it will only put the data of law abiding citizens at risk, but they don't listen and they keep playing the same game over and over.

Even child charities say it's a bad idea
- https://www.nspcc.org.uk/about-us/news-opinion/2021/adults-support-encryption-if-children-safety-protected/
  The NSPCC is running articles saying that we should only have End to End encryption if we can somehow guarentee children's safety, which sounds like they're advocating for backdoors.

idk man i see that discord logo

whats that cube looking app with fdroid and obtainium?

GrapheneOS Apps

That's one nice home screen. Shame we still have Discord tho

Yes, and I only use it for some Linux support groups, don't know why they are not on matrix.
- So many open source projects on discord unfortunately
- Because matrix is absolutely not there yet like lemmy and mastodon are.
  I‘m an admin and a coder for roughly 20 yrs, yet it took me hours to understand matrix and elements. There is just not enough knowledge out there atm and the apps dont do a well enough job themselves imho.

I don't get it

I think the implication is that they don't use anything from any of those companies. I see icons for Bitwarden, Nextcloud, and Lemmy. So they're probably a big selfhoster.
- I'm pretty sure that's Mull rather than Lemmy. Just started using it and it's excellent!
From memory the UK gov is trying to (or has?) pass anti-encription laws targeting the big tech giants GAFAM (google, apple, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft). I am in Australia so not up to date with this.
Its hard to tell from the icon pack they are using but I think this might be a screenshot from a degoogle phone? For example I don't see any Facebook or Microsoft specific apps. But I do see a nextcloud app which is an open source self hostable replacement suite for Google's cloud apps.
Basically the law change won't affect them as they are not using any GAFAM apps/software.
- I think its targeting all encryption, but these are self hosted end to end encrypted typically, all upon grapheneOS, so would be all but impossible to crack
It's pretty hard to make open source developers all over the world comply with unreasonable demands of nation-states. Ditto locking down the national Internet to block people from accessing them. Even in North Korea it's hard, not impossible.
Maybe he thinks they need to find the app and open it on his phone?

Love this, funny how we have a lot of similar apps, but Discord stays on the bottom row, it's hard to get rid of.

Man I wish I could uninstall it. It's just plain spyware, at least from my point of view, but everyone uses it. I wanna be part of society too you know.
- use revolt instead
- is there an alternative frontend for discord
- Nobody I know uses Discord. It's an age/social circle thingy.

Do not be afraid! You have nothing to fear, for you have nothing to hide, do you? /s

You don't need to decrypt if it hasn't encrypted. (Discord)

What are you, some kind of terrorist?

Lol no. Just a privacy hardener. Idk it started with replacing all google stuff with nextcloud. And more and more I became free.
- I might bite the bullet, and buy a Pixel tablet, to flash it with GrapheneOS. Lineage OS tablet support is pretty spotty lately. I use a Samsung SM-T720 that is doing well, but will die eventually.

cmon you're almost there, you can self host everything!

(for the curious the icon pack is arcticons (f-droid))

What launcher?
I use it too and its beautiful!!
Edit: grammar correction

One step closer to this 😦

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/RIuf1V1FhpY
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.
- Good bot !
Please tell me this is not implemented

You got access to Beeper? Lucky bastard

After 500 days I got it.
- Sheesh! I mean, I did get a token around 100k when I signed up, but they definitely need a better way of screening if it takes an average user more than a year to get through the screening :/
How long is the wait now? I've had it for a bit and I know they've been ramping up their onboarding.
- I signed up 6 weeks ago, still nothing
- I've been waiting for almost a month now, and I've seen a few people complaining how they're in waiting list since multiple months (recent ones, i.e. after they announced lesser waiting time)

So they just come home with a warrant and take your unencrypted hard drive that's self hosting all that apps

You think its unencrypted? Hah, nice try.
When you visit the UK? That's how I interpret the OP.
They could possibly keep the device to study it and create tools by the time the next guy with the same software comes along. Or simply confiscate and pressure you to give access. A lot of people simply crack.

Is that Mull?

Yes
- Ayyyy... Cheers mate... 🥂 I've been using Mull ever since Bromite got abandoned.

Did that godforsaken bill get passed yet?

what icon pacj is being used

https://github.com/donnnno/arcticons

Can someone give me a rundown of what those apps are?

Okay okay,
From up left:
Settings, K9-Mail, Tutanota, (Stores: GrapheneOS Store, Aurora Store, F-Droid Basic, Obtainium),
Simple Calendar, JTX, Aves Gallery, Camera,
OSMand~, Nextcloud, Immich, Paperless
Transportr, Nextcloud Bookmarks, Quillpad, Clock,
Termux, Bitwarden, Breezy Weather, Calc,
Material Files, ntfy, Simple X Chat, AdGuard Home (its a browser link)
Phone, Contacts, Mull, Discord, Beeper
My second page is full Lemmy Apps, haha.
For completion: wallpaper is one of KDEs Plasma 5.24 (maybe). And Icons are: Arcticons Dark. Android 13 Graphene OS.
- I love Beeper, but the android app is so far behind the desktop app in terms of polish

I can identify at least four of those icons.

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