Focus group participants who didn’t vote in the high-turnout presidential election largely had fond memories of the Trump-era economy.
Among these voters, Harris gets a boost because they believe she would protect abortion rights, and some have broader hopes that electing the first female president could send a strong message to the country. But she’s weighed down by a number of important factors: a dim diagnosis of America’s economy, negative views about life during President Joe Biden’s administration and a lack of familiarity with her, which has bred ambivalence and distrust.
It’s different for Trump, one of the best-known political figures on the planet. Some of these voters believe his conduct during his time in office has disqualified him in their eyes, and even some of his supporters fear he’d focus more in a second term on fighting his enemies than on governing.
Still, a majority of the 12 participants in two sessions — part of the NBC News Deciders Focus Group, produced in collaboration with Syracuse University and the research firms Engagious and Sago — are leaning toward Trump for the oldest reason in politics: It’s the economy.
It's not the economy. If it was, they wouldn't be considering the guy who wants to throw tariffs around willy-nilly. It's one of the other things. You know, those things.
"Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and American universities - and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, [...] you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The public sucks. Fuck hope.'"
-- George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrbXOmnW70
I don't completely agree: slavery is now illegal; so there's hope they'll one day vote to oppose omnicidal biosphere destruction, and genocides.
Selling democracy and the rule of law for empty promises of a slightly better economy.
I don't care how out of touch with reality these people are, they remember January 6th, they know what Trump is all about. Supporting the fascists now because of the economy is no different than supporting them then because at least the trains run on time.
Well, that's not entirely fair. The fascists then weren't running on a platform that was guaranteed to derail the trains.
But she’s weighed down by a number of important factors: a dim diagnosis of America’s economy, negative views about life during President Joe Biden’s administration and a lack of familiarity with her, which has bred ambivalence and distrust.
Gaza is going to look like a joke compared to what happens to the world when Trump gets elected.
I guarantee you with 100% certainty within 6 months of Trump being elected you will not give any fucks about Gaza. Not. A. Single. Fuck.
Within a couple years people around you won't even remember Gaza was a "thing".
If America doesn't vote for Harris that's what will happen.
I will eat forty pounds of pig shit live on whatever autocraticly approved media platform is in control of your mind in 6 months after Trump is elected if I'm wrong.
Okay telling me, an Arab, that I won't care about Gaza in six months is... interesting, but do your thing I guess. That aside, has anyone told you that this attitude is condescending as fuck?
The average American does, in fact, give at least a few fucks about Gaza and the prospect of another war in the Middle East. You can look up the polls yourself. Also, even if the average American didn't care, the average swing state American sure as hell does. Michigan gets the most popularity, but the American Midwest in general has a high number of Muslims who are a key demographic in this election. And, you know, people generally don't like genocide.
If Trump was president right now doing the exact same thing, liberals would be all about it. Since it's team blue, causing the death and providing the weapons for murder, it's okay. It's a non issue.
Nonvoters should be cast in a pejorative light. People should be ashamed not to vote. If you don't care enough to decide the difference between two incredibly opposite futures for the country we should collectively dump your ass in the dead center of the Atlantic Ocean. Both sides are the same, right?