Yeah, but that's all of them. Israel as our only real ally in the ME gets whatever Israel wants and neither major party is about to change that over a little genocide.
This race is the most "who fucking knows" since I've followed US elections.
Some things of I think are of note
AZ and NV having abortion ballot measures should heavily lean dem (someone else here already mentioned this)
NC's governor ticket will probably drag Republicans down. Mark Robinson was exposed as a serial gooner (pornshop debt) who is a black Nazi that wants slavery to return (this is not a joke). He strikes me as a worse Herschel Walker/Dr Oz type candidate and I think dems pickup NC because of it. The broader Republican party is trying to run away from him because he's seen as that toxic
GA will have the most brazenly corrupt election this side of the century, and that's saying a lot since their incumbent governor probably stole his own first election already. Their election board will send Trump electors no matter what (unless there is somehow a massive electoral college win for Kamala which I don't see happening)
MI goes for Trump on the Stein 3rd party vote and liberals transition from their current state (going mask off) to gleeful celebration of, like, domestic socdem repression
PA I genuinely have no clue. No confidence whatsoever in a call either way
Every other state I think is locked in (including WI for dems- this is possibly what I'll be most gut feeling wrong about)
Republicans take the Senate
I think a 269-269 tie is an incredibly possible situation and I think it would fall under funniest timeline theory (for those reading this results in a Trump presidency due to tiebreaker rules favoring him).
And also in the event of a 269 vote tie dems will deffinitly concede immediatly and claim the moral high ground for the next 4 years, telling all of us they told us they'd lose if we didn't support them.
They lost an election to the Republicans, they aren't expected to do anything, and they can punch left and blame us. That's literally everything the democratic party cpuld ask for.
Harris loses because of Michigan, libs blame the left like always, Biden dies slipping on a banana peel during Trump's second inauguration, Carter outlives him
Someone on here said Kamala will win the popular vote but lose the electoral college so I'm going with that. Oh an one more Trump assassination attempt this time by a white black hebrew israelite mad at Trump because he's a fake or something (truth be told idk what these guys want or believe).
Someone on here said Kamala will win the popular vote but lose the electoral college so I'm going with that.
That could easily happen if she's popular in CA by a massive margin but not so popular elsewhere. That's how it worked for the other times this has happened in recent history - the margin in CA being so large that the national margin is smaller than the CA margin.
Kamala wins by a landslide, both electorally and popular vote, but then, Trump and the GOP just say "no", and then a 6-3 Supreme Court decision rules Trump is the winner. The Democrats immediately fold, and then blame the left for them losing. Living in a city is then made a crime punishable by death, and the Democratic Party becomes nonviable.
Despite democratic insistence (or are they just repeating because if you hear something enough times you believe it) that the race is going to go to Kopmala, trump wins.
No funny shit, no stuffed ballot boxes. Trump just fucking wins because the US and A is just that shitty of a place to be and your neighbors really are the pieces of shit you always suspected them of being.
I dunno, I feel like the suburbs are a pretty good representation of the average American. It's just that the average American is kinda insane.
You have to get more rural for the median voter to be but I don't feel like the somewhat more normal city people are super representative of the average American either.
I really don’t live in the burbs. I live in an unincorporated area where the cows outnumber the humans. South Texas border town. My neighbors really are pieces of shit. I’m an exception as opposed to the rule, but still… it’s what I deal with daily.
I might be the only ‘lefty’ in a hundred square miles.
Relevant update, Sleepy Joe is apparently finally threatening to halt arms shipments... What if the October surprise is just that Biden and Harris were willing to let a genocide go on so they could suddenly kill it to swing the election? Please tell me I'm just being cynical...
Florida is still a swing state and is still full of elderly Jewish people. I dunno if most of them are pro-Zionism but the Harris campaign probably thinks they are
I think it’ll be very close but Kamala will win. I think she’ll barely squeak by in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Trump will barely win Georgia, she’ll win Michigan and Nevada more solidly, and Arizona will go for Trump. I think this outcome will be less of a reflection of support for Kamala and more of a loss in enthusiasm for Trump this time around. This is a group of people who have been told over and over that the vote is rigged, therefore their vote doesn’t matter, and being generally lazy, they may be looking for an excuse to just stay at home.
I say this fully expecting to be proven totally wrong in a month and therefore be completely owned, but that’s what my gut tells me now. It really could go either way.
The Electoral college unveils from behind a sliding metal door Candidate X, an 18 foot tall behemoth of a machine spewing smoke and depleted uranium rounds as exhaust. It lets out a mighty roar like metal gear Rex could do for some reason and starts stomping to the white house where it sits on the roof, spews a plume of fire into the air and signs bills into law.
I remember all the online elections threads since 2016. The amount of liberal infighting when things look like they are going south is unbelievable. The second Trump took Florida they were calling for progressive heads in 2020.
ArrNeoliberal, ArrFiveThirtyEight, and ArrFriendsFromThePod will be absolutely insufferable on election night.
I'm giving Trump a 70% chance to win. The only solace if Trump wins will be lib tears ngl.
Considering liberals are openly making death threats for anyone not voting Harris, the safest option may be to vote Trump and take a picture, while registering Democrat.
That way, you can placate either side that will use public voter roll information to hunt their opposition.
Oh wait, voting in a specific manner to ensure your continued safety? I guess all that BS about fair socialist elections from liberals was yet another projection.
In reality I’ll probably go PSL to help them get federal funding, but the game theory is leaning stronger and stronger to the former strategy…
trump wins the election, but since the deep state can't trust him, they actually DO rig this election to make kamala win. but only diehard MAGAs believe trump when he says that because he lied about it last time.
then another january 6th happens.
then kamala girlbosses her neoliberal presidency right in to american civil war 2.
I think Obama was the last two-term US president. I think that this country is going to last like a couple more election cycles of "well we already know that one sucks cause they've been president already so time to give their opponent a shot" and then the country will devolve into open fascist dictatorship or feudalism or just completely collapse into a hundred warlord-controlled states
Yes anding this: he continues the tone shift that he’s already started, liberals trip over themselves to reform his image and gush over how “presidential” he acts. Project 2025 is memory-holed immediately.
Just to be contrarian and not answer the question, what do we expect the actual material differences to be depending on who's elected?
Foreign policy probably looks really bad either way.
Harris is somewhat better on LGBTQ+ issues but both presidents seem content to sit back and let individual states do whatever in that regard.
Climate change/natural disasters are probably worse under Trump given that he loves to randomly gut important government agencies.
Kamala is just gonna say "Supreme Court is against it so theres literally nothing I can do"
I guess that's better than making it worse but if you're in a red state I don't think it could get much worse.
The funniest possibility: Trump wins the popular vote, loses the electoral college. I don't even know what would happen next, but it would be really, really funny.
Nate Silver did mention that he believes the NYT thinks there is a political realignment, with white color voters in suburbs being Dem while rural and blue collar workers vote GOP regardless of race. We did see the GOP wanting to do this in 2016 after Romney lost in 2012. Trump, despite his insane hatred of marginalized groups, is now taking these groups in thanks to Dems taking them for granted. It is believed these vorers vote in presidential elections, not midterms.
Nate silver has also gone back and forth on if this is a good idea. For midterms, yeah I see it working but for presidential elections? Absolutely not. And considering how insanely powerful the president is, nothing else really matters.
I mean, I already got proven right on Dems walking back anything on trans rights, but I guess that's basically a free space.
I guess we'll get a scene like Pelosi donning African clothes, but with one of the Dems in American Indian clothes. Coincide that with one of the rare good things Nixon did for Indigenous groups being rolled back.
Please don't hand me the lathe though, I'm just following patterns.
Alright, heres whats gonna happen- when the results are called in, Donald Trump will have won the electoral vote. On inauguration day, when Biden leaves office and shakes hands with Trump, he will be shot.
Immediately after, The gunman will be dealt with by the secret service. The FBI will conclude that the gunman was aiming for Trump, but missed.
Republicans stall efforts to finish counting votes after election day enough to muddy the waters so that Trump gets a win like Bush in 2000. Kopmala gracefully concedes and every liberal's brain explodes when they try to suppress the thought of peacefully transferring power to who they were told was literally Hitler for the last 12 months
Kamala will attempt to galvanize her base by appealing to a matriarchal structure. Kalama's husband will publicly take a supportive role, emphasizing gender equality and position himself as an advocate for women's rights. However, a recent affair will come to light. He'll do damage recovery by talking about how behind every strong woman is a man who knows when to step aside. He will later release a memoir about the campaign.
Kalama's campaign will derive a new slogan "Rise with Her". However, it'll be revealed that key staffers quit in protest over the strategic direction of the campaign and they join the Trump campaign, with accusations of sabotage. The campaign will lose focus towards the end, with a "Families First" tour that has poor turnout.
In a last minute decision, Trump will call an emergency rally in DC and promises to reveal 'irrefutable proof' of election fraud. A small but unruly turnout will cause mayhem, with his voters buying fake locks of his hair. Several will be arrested for bringing large inflatable objects.
One state will attempt to remove Trump or Harris from the ballot sparking a full blown legal circus. Both candidates benefit from the increased attention and nothing happens.
On election night, Harris will be confident that she will win. However, she is pull aside to be told that one of her strongest states may be under legal challenge because of confusing ballot. She makes a speech about urging unity and patience.
There will be no clear victor for either candidate. Both parties will have fundraiser efforts to do voting recounts. The inauguration will still happen since the electoral college decided already and voting never mattered anyway.
The swing states all have a lot of fuckery at the local level and it will take a couple days before we know who is the true winner. SCOTUS will try to intervene but the lower courts will get ahead of them to ensure the states wrap up the counting. Harris probably wins, but the chuds will be frothing at the mouth. I'm setting the over/under for how many get shot dead by the authorities at 3.5.
I'm being pessimistic: I think Holocaust Harris is going to win because American liberals are so bloodthirsty and racist that they turn up in droves for her. I hope I'm wrong
I'll make a safe one - regardless of who wins, about 1/6 of the country is going to lose their fucking minds and claim the election was "stolen" or some similar language indicating that the win wasn't legitimate. If Harris wins it will be "stolen", if Trump wins they will use a different word because calling an election "stolen" is right wing and thus icky.
Regardless of who wins, there will be recounts requested in at least two states and lawsuits filed regarding the election in at least one - these numbers will be much higher if Harris wins.
Put odds of a riot if Trump wins at about 50/50, odds of a riot if Harris wins at about 75%.
Trump wins and cadres from the Peoples Liberal Democratic Front begin a protracted insurgency against the fascist government. Hexbear is left speechless.