The State Fair of Texas is banning firearms, drawing threats of legal action from Republican AG
The State Fair of Texas is banning firearms, drawing threats of legal action from Republican AG
DALLAS (AP) — The State Fair of Texas is laying down a new rule before millions of visitors flock through the gates for corn dogs, deep-fried delights and a friendly wave from a five-story cowboy named Big Tex: No guns allowed.
But that decision by fair organizers — which comes after a shooting last year on the 277-acre fairgrounds in the heart of Dallas — has drawn outrage from Republican lawmakers, who in recent years have proudly expanded gun rights in Texas. On Wednesday, the state’s attorney general threatened a lawsuit unless the fair reversed course.
“Dallas has fifteen days to fix the issue,” said Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, “otherwise I will see them in court.”
Tensions over where and how gun owners can carry firearms in public are frequent in Texas, but the standoff with one of the state’s most beloved institutions has moved the fight onto unusual turf. The fair has not backed down since cowboy hat-wearing organizers announced the new policy at a news conference last week.
The fair, which reopens in September and lasts for nearly a month, dates back to 1886. In addition to a maze of midway games, car shows and the Texas Star Ferris wheel — one of the tallest in the U.S. — the fairgrounds are also home to the annual college football rivalry between the University of Texas and University of Oklahoma. And after Big Tex, the towering cowboy that greets fairgoers, went up in flames in 2012 due to an electrical short, the fair mascot was met with great fanfare upon its return.
Fun fact:
Back in the wild west, it was common to "check your guns" apon entering almost every single town. Yes, you needed protection from bandits and outlaws, but entering you left them with the sheriff and picked them up leaving.
That's a common sense gun law if I ever saw one.
Too bad the GOP has no common sense anymore, just slop rhetoric they got from some losers who want little girls to get pregnant.
Funnily enough, usually it was to keep black people and Asian people from being armed while turning a blind eye to armed white people. Gun control is racist.
Gun control is racist.
Louder for those in the back. Volumes have been written on the subject, and the information is a only a quick search away.
Many of you are familiar with Reagan, as Governor of California, banning open carry because of the Black Panthers. Yeah, that gets tossed around a good bit, but the racism inherent in historical and modern gun laws goes far deeper.
So is it less racist if everyone's arms are restricted or if everyone can open carry? Not trying to be an asshole, I'm just not convinced that asking for guns upon entry is inextricable from racism.
Though I suppose policing an an institution in itself is pretty racist since enforcement is often done by authoritarians who are terrified of others. But that's not really exclusive to policing, unfortunately; most state institutions are racist.
Anyway, I agree with you on some level, but surely there's an answer here that doesn't subjugate specific classes of people.
Edit: Then again, it's in the interest of the state to have a monopoly on violence, so idk what to think. I'm just sick of not doing anything and not having any ideas when mass shootings happen.
For doubters:
The “Wild” West had more common sense than today’s conservatives.
Private event, their rules. Fuck off Paxton. This “good guy with a gun” stuff is bullshit and everyone knows it, but by all means puff out the chest and bluster for the idiots in your constituency.
they're afraid because they know if TX cops will cower around outside while school kids are massacred inside, then they sure as shit aren't going to rush in to gOoDgUyWItHgUn at some fair with drunk texans
There are some people who both start and end every gun debate with the "good guy with a gun" argument. Nothing gets through the impenetrable logic of "it makes sense to me".
Why doesn't Texas AG sue trump for banning guns at his rallies?
You guys.. I'm worried this is a MAJOR oversight!
Surely they'll allow unrestricted firearms in the gallery at the next Texas legislative session
LiberalGunNut™ here! I say hell yes, let them put their money where their mouth is. Force them to argue against.
FFS, I'll never know why liberals can't do shit like this. Texas ought to have Democratic lawmakers salivating at proposing such a law.
If I had one political wish, it would be that conservatives are forced to live in the world they want to create.
1 Let’s allow everyone to carry guns everywhere!
2 Oh, shit. Maybe not such a good idea. Let’s not have guns everywhere thousands of people congregate and have beer, too. Or at trump speeches. Or at NRA conventions….
3 Republicans: Fuck you! GUNS EVERYWHRE!1!
I agree with the Republicans, lets have more guns at Trump rallies, and mandatory aiming lessons.
Somewhere between: “Guns everywhere!” and “Guns nowhere!” is the idea that will make no one in America happy.
I don’t understand. I went to the Texas state fair last year. They were turning people away at the gate for having folding pocket knives or even Swiss Army knives. There where metal detectors and they where searching bags for weapons of any kind. Who is being banned from carrying guns inside the fair? The police?
Maybe that was after the shooting.
I wasn't allowed to bring a pocket knife in probably 20 years ago. Weird because I am pretty sure the belt I did wear in would be a more effective weapon than that tiny knife.
Not a Texan, but back when you had to have a permit for concealed carry in Florida, they had wands and metal detectors, but you could just show the sheriff your CCW permit and you'd be allowed in. I assume that's what they do in Texas too. Not sure what they'll do now that you don't need a permit in Florida.
I've gone to the Texas State Fair when I was a kid back in the late 80's and 90's...it's just a bunch of salesmen and food for the most part these days (kinda was then too, just had more actual activities for kids to participate in)
Just have "gun cabins" like "smoker boxes", where all the gun owners can sit and stare at each other.
Ken Paxton is such a piece of shit.
When you're a piece of shit your fellow pieces of shit just let you get away with felonies. And the clowns keep re-electing him.
It’s almost like they WANT an incident
I was there the night of the incident last year. I was afraid of a stampede BEFORE the shooting, it was that crowded. Yeah, guns need to be banned or Paxton needs to provide a realistic solution.
Bans like this are straight silly. How exactly do we propose to stop anyone from carrying? Maybe some TSA style security theater? We going to scan thousands of people coming into fairgrounds?
Now people like me will obey the law, and some will not. Now I am unarmed, and they are. People planing mayhem, or people who prone to it, will simply ignore this. And in some states, it's perfectly legal to carry on private property even if the owners ban it, you can only be forced to leave under threat of trespass. In others, you're going to jail if caught.
Being a gun nut, I'm leaning towards the latter. If a property owner says, "No." (to anything), I'm inclined to side with them.
It's not that they want one, it's that their symbols of "freedom" are worth more than the lives of people.
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Good, goood, ban all firearms, so when some nutcase pulls another Uvalde there will be nothing stipping all the fairgoers from getting riddled with bullets while the cops bumble around outside of the gates
pulls another Uvalde
You mean where the police don't act and instead stand around? Man it almost seems like law enforcement not acting should be the focus not the fact people are unarmed.
Every event like this will have security with the local PD on alert if they call. That's how it's supposed to work - "good guy with gun" often gets shot by police response if you hadn't been keeping track.
I fail to see your logic? The slavecatcher patrols are where the problem lies, so ban a bunch of random stuff? Might as well ban shoes, pants, bags, and people under the age of 44, that would make the fair safer!