Proton @lemmy.world Nelizea @lemmy.world 4 mo. ago

Introducing Proton Scribe: a privacy-first writing assistant

from the team:

Hi everyone,

In Proton's 2024 user survey, it seems like AI usage among the Proton community has now exceeded 50% (it's at 54% to be exact). It's 72% if we also count people who are interested in using AI.

Rather than have people use tools like ChatGPT which are horrible for privacy, we're bridging the gap with Proton Scribe, a privacy-first writing assistant that is built into Proton Mail.

Proton Scribe allows you to generate email drafts based on a prompt and refine with options like shorten, proofread and formalize.

A privacy-first writing assistant

Proton Scribe is a privacy-first take on AI, meaning that it:

Can be run locally, so your data never leaves your device.
Does not log or save any of the prompts you input.
Does not use any of your data for training purposes.
Is open source, so anyone can inspect and trust the code.

Basically, it's the privacy-first AI tool that we wish existed, but doesn't exist, so we built it ourselves. Scribe is not a partnership with a third-party AI firm, it's developed, run and operated directly by us, based off of open source technologies.

Available now for Visionary, Lifetime, and Business plans

Proton Scribe is available as a paid add-on for business plans, and teams can try it for free. It's also included for free to all of our legacy Proton Visionary and Lifetime plan subscribers. Learn more about Proton Scribe on our blog: https://proton.me/blog/proton-scribe-writing-assistant

As always, if you have thoughts and comments, let us know.

Proton Team

47 comments

Amazing thing, unfortunately I won't be able to use it. I'm on ultimate plan which already costs quite a while and if scribe is going to be a paid add-on I will stick to local ollama models. Not the most convenient thing but it works.
- What? It's not available for ultimate users? I thought I was paying to have access to all features..
Pretty sad all the people getting mad about an optional opt-in feature. I think this is pretty cool. If it’s free to use with my existing unlimited plan I’ll probably use it regularly, otherwise if I have to pay more I’ll probably just keep using ChatGPT since I already pay for that.
Fucking hell its exhausting trying to keep one step ahead of having this AI bullshit shoved into every service I use.

I'm not against AI. I'm just against it being embedded in literally everything. I

If I want to "consult" an AI to have it look at my code for syntax errors or something like that, I'll go to its website and use it from there, accepting that yes... That particular bit of code or text is going to be scraped.

But the step from there to "always be reading everything I do is fucking massive.
- You have to turn it on.
  
  Yeah that's fair enough. But I have to say it's still frustrating seeing everyone investing so much money on this exact same feature. I'm not sure we have had time to figure out how people use this, everyone is just frightened to be left behind.
So it's only available in the business plan, and at additional cost? Meh.
So, just for clarity. Even if this rolls out to all paid plans. This is opt in specifically right? Or at minimum can be entirely disabled?
- Yes
- VPN client on Linux is still barely usable...
  
  Keep releasing new products tho
Hey look it's one of the reasons I started my switch from Google manifesting in my new system, how wonderful! Can the AI winter fully arrive already?
- This is opt in and you have to pay for it. Plus runs locally. Nothing like Google
  
  It's enabled by default and can send your email drafts to their server. The first time you try to use it (by clicking the Scribe button), it asks whether you want to use the local version or the cloud version. It's easy to disable it completely in Settings.
  
  It does not, and cannot, train on your inbox, due to end-to-end-encryption.
  
  More info: https://proton.me/support/proton-scribe-writing-assistant
  
  I would prefer if the inital prompt included an option to disabled Scribe completely, and a warning about the privacy implications of enabling it, but overall I think their approach is good enough for my privacy needs.
  
  So that's fair and I completely understand that. My problem is 1. How training data is obtained 2. How this change in the future and 3. I just started my proton switch about two months ago and all of the google AI integration is what broke the camels back for me.
  
  I wanted a platform where I didn't have to constantly check how the AI is getting trained and handles privacy, which is now gone.
VPN Linux client is still barely functional years later...

Keep releasing new products tho
- How is it barely functional? I use it and haven't had any issues.
- Not the same teams.
  
  And who's responsible for keeping the different teams properly staffed and funded?
Please review the plans model, it is very wallet aggressive currently. Example the ability to create customer own plans with the services he wants and needs.
- very wallet aggressive
  
  I see you used this new AI to jazz up the word "expensive"!
  
  Not my mother tongue . And I like to invent expressions . Anyway yes is very expensive, every month … even nowadays that we are being taxed to death
No thank you.
No thanks
Proton users might want to read about Crypto AG...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG
This is the right way to do it. Kudos!

/Visionary
- The negative, since I couldn't see it:
  
  Chromium-based browser. Support for the Proton Mail desktop app will come at a later date.
  
  Is it technically not possible on Firefox? I would've expected a large overlap between caring-about-privacy and not-running-chromium amongst your customers :/
  
  The team states the following regarding Firefox:
  
  Support for running language models locally is currently only available in the Firefox Nightly builds. In our testing with Firefox, we haven’t been able to get Proton Scribe to run reliably on a variety of devices. We will see how the situation evolves before adding support.
  
  yeah, I'm a non-chromium user
  
  I did not look at the source code but I assume this uses something like webllm, which uses webgpu that Firefox currently doesn't support as much as chromium
  
  ungoogled chromium is a free and open-source variant of the Chromium web browser that removes all Google-specific web services. It achieves this with a series of patches applied to the Chromium codebase during the compilation process. The result is functionally similar to regular Chromium.
  
  I've read good things about Vivaldi, which also is chromium based.
Cave u just get it though there normal paid plan? Why not?
- Teams answer:
  
  Our business audience was the most interested in a writing assistant, this is why we started gradually rolling it out starting with Business and Visionary plans. We will look into making it available to more users at a later date!
  
  Yay!
What are the Visionary, Lifetime, and Business plans?
- Lifetime plan is a plan they auction off for a fundraiser
  
  https://proton.me/blog/lifetime-account-auction-success
- Proton plans explained: https://proton.me/support/proton-plans
  
  Proton business plans explained: https://proton.me/support/proton-for-business
  
  A Lifetime plan is functionally identical to a Visionary plan, just without any monthly cost.
Oh please go fuck yourselves already. What is the service that replaces Proton? They are beyond their peak.

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