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George Clooney, who hosted major fundraiser for Biden last month, says Democratic Party needs a new nominee | CNN Politics

www.cnn.com George Clooney, who hosted major fundraiser for Biden last month, says Democratic Party needs a new nominee | CNN Politics

The actor George Clooney, who had been among President Joe Biden’s biggest supporters and donors in Hollywood, called on Biden to bow out of the presidential race on Wednesday, just weeks after he hosted a major fundraiser for his reelection campaign.

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Oh yes, let's completely change the candidate 4 MONTHS before the election. That really sounds like a winning strategy. Let's get rid of the candidate that has been a Vice President for 8 years and is the sitting President of 3.5 years. Let's replace the candidate that has done more for the US than any other republican president. Let's make sure we replace Joe Biden so that the psychopathic dictator wanna-be 'donald the con man trump' can be installed as our illiterate king. That's going to solve all the problems we have. Finally Democracy will go away. And Freedom will end. It's about time, how boring and valueless those things are. Women can finally become property again, and all the non-white people will be deported. Everyone will be required to attend church on Sunday and give 10% of their income to the church. No more alcohol, parties, sex. We will finally be a moral land again. The christian version of Sharia will be implemented. Wages will be the lowest in history and we can finally build walls around the nation to keep people out and Americans trapped inside, just like East Germany used to be.
Personally I'm voting for Joe Biden, even if he is in a COMA! I value my Freedom and Biden has been doing a great job for Americans.
- I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but it is kind of insane that we think 4 months is way too late to change candidates, when other countries do their whole election cycle in a month.
  
  As Jon Stewart and many others have already pointed out -Two of our closest allies just recently managed to announce and host national elections in a matter of weeks. It's nothing short of absurd that we allegedly can't even field a new candidate for a single party in the course of four months.
  
  I wish our system was theirs.
  But historically, in the US, the candidate with the biggest war chest wins the election.
  Biden has considerably more than Trump. Inertia alone is almost certain to guarantee that Trump loses with Biden on the ticket. That being said, one of the only times this wasn't true meant Trump became president.
  
  So you're saying that Hillary Clinton losing to Trump was because she didn't have as large of a war chest?
  Or was that not part of history?
  
  From what I read, she did have the bigger war chest. I am sorry if I was unclear. I was stating that Donald Trump is a rare candidate who has won without the larger funding base.
  
  Precisely.
  
  You have one candidate who beat the odds and won with less money. He will win with more money.
  Kamala is the only path forward.
  
  You can't point out the most obvious example that proves money isn't everything.
  
  "Nooo, you can't point to the very relevant counterpoint to what's being claimed. That's not fair."
  
  True, other countries are shorter. But in America, it's 2 YEARS of political garbage. We need proper Federal election laws and one of those limits the time we have to be subjected to the campaigns. It should be less than 6 months from start to finish with mandatory debates so Voters can tune in and be easily informed. Right now it's just chaos and disinformation. And the US press has abandoned journalism. We now have Fox News 1. Fox 2 (NYT), Fox 3 (WSJ), etc. The UK transferred power in 24 hours. 4 months is getting very late in the game for the US, where everything takes longer than a trip to Pluto. This is not the year to piss around, it may be the last time anyone votes ever.
  
  Which countries? Most I can think of the candidates for head office are pretty well set months or a year ahead
- If all the Democrats and "liberal" news stations and pundits spent half as much of their time bitching that Biden should drop out on figuring out WHO should replace him this wouldn't be such a problem. If they could just agree on a new nominee maybe Biden would consider dropping out. Because right now Biden has to consider it when there's no alternative.
  People suggesting Biden drop out without a plan on how to proceed are doing the Republicans' jobs for them. Or they are Trump supporters.
  
  Dude, you can literally Google it. There's dozens of articles and talking points suggesting a handful of names. It's right there. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
  It's becoming really fucking clear just how much of an echochamber the Dems also live in while simultaneously mocking Trumpers for being in theirs.
  
  And yet you didn't bother to supply even 1 name. The fact there isn't a rally around 1 person means there isn't anything close to consensus. So it's just tearing down the only chance we've got.
  Or at I put it: helping Trump win. Good job.
  
  The names are like Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, Buttigieg, etc., but getting everyone to agree to one of those is a long shot. I'm not convinced that switching to any of those people would give the Dems a better chance at winning the election.
  
  Clooney is a Trump supporter? Not sure 🤔
  
  RIght?!?
  Ahh man its ssoooooooooooo cathartic to be in this moment after the past 8 months. Nature is healing.
  
  I think this must be the eye 👁️ of the storm that Q Anon was talking about.
- If AOC challenged him then I'd support her.
- Are you going to vote for him if he isn't the nominee?
  
  He will be the nominee.
  
  But will you vote for someone else if he isnt?
  
  Never vote for the GOP. So yes, I will vote Dem.
  
  Dude is just as much in a cult as the Trumpers are in theirs.
  
  While there is no official definition for the term, Blue MAGA has been used to describe those who are fierce advocates of the so-called "vote blue no matter who" initiative and are not willing to criticize Democrats in any way.
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  Got real quiet didn't it.
- "I'm voting for X, even if he's in a coma" is the exact kind of cult rhetoric you mock Trumpers for following. You're blindly following a leader because "he's going to save us" and willingly dismissing any criticisms, just shoving your fingers in your ears and going "LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU". Oh, and calling anyone who disagrees a Russian/Trump shill.
  Fuck the US Democrats. Progressives in name only. They had their chance and they failed miserably. Time for a new party to step up. We need an actual left party, not a "less right than the extreme" one.
  
  When there is literally one alternative and it is the Trump administration? I do not think it is cultish even to say that I will literally vote for a grilled cheese sandwich for president if that grilled cheese sandwich has the current team continuing to run the executive branch instead of Trump and his horrible people.
  It’s not a cultish obsession with the candidate you want to win, it’s a desperate desire to avert disaster.
  If a person is convinced that changing the candidate at this point in the race lowers the chances of winning, they may be wrong about that premise, but if they then say they will vote for Biden even if he’s in a coma, it doesn’t mean they are obsessed with him.
  
  So who are you voting for? If it's not Biden, then it's for Trump. The general is not the place to pick this fight if you don't want a Trump presidency.
  
  You're right. The Democrats shouldn't pick this fight now of all times, the most important election of our lives.
  They must, to protect democracy, present their strongest candidate. One who can crush trump in a debate and earn the highest approval rating of voters who don't know about politics. One that the entire country can unite behind to fight facism and trump.
  Cuz we the voters have a responsibility to vote for anyone who isn't trump, right? But we can only cast a vote. It's up to them to present a candidate who can win them
  
  Ideally things may have gone differently earlier this year, but they didn't. There have been exactly 0 alternate options that have been presented outside of social media comments. 4 months is not enough time to come up with a plan, hold some method of selecting the candidate, then marketing them and getting people that don't watch the news to know what's up. Further, there are legal hurdles to getting on state ballots. There is 0 chance that this wouldn't be fought to the election and not resolved. Biden is the only option unless he kicks the bucket and succession kicks in.
  
  Hey, the DNC can make all the excuses they want to for the situation we're currently in. I would prefer solutions from them instead. At the end of the day, governance is their job. Our job is to vote. If you feel like their excuses (because they is what they are) are good enough, then bully. I don't care for them, or the direction a party accustomed to making excuses instead of plans is going.
  I think ol joe will pull it off in Nov. I am disheartened that this is the best case scenario, cuz i dislike the prospect that no matter who does we get a president who may be losing his marbles or one who's eaten them.
  
  It's a good thing that Biden doesn't actually run the country, but listens to a bunch of really smart advisors that actually run the country. If you're complacent with a trump presidency, don't vote, vote 3rd party, vote trump, it doesn't matter it's all the same. The rest of us will reiterate how fucking stupid that would be and how opinions about how things should be don't matter to reality. Go ahead and support Trump, but quit hiding behind some facade of morality when your action or inaction rather helps bring about the worst case scenario for millions of people.
  
  If you're gonna get on a high horse imma slap its ass and watch your bobblehead ride off. Would you care to try writing as an adult does?

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