Russia aims to undermine Biden in November election, intel officials say
Previous U.S. intelligence assessments dating to 2016 concluded that Russia sought to weaken support for the Democratic Party and boost Donald Trump’s candidacy.
Well of course they're going to.
They've been blatantly backing Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and why wouldn't they?: They're ideological allies. They all want the same thing - moralistic and militaristic kleptocratic autocracies that will stand against the threat that progressivism poses to their unearned, undeserved and grossly destructive privilege.
It's not an accident that Tucker Carlson flew over to fellate Putin, or that Trump and the MAGA Republicans have undermined support for Ukraine at every turn, or that they've expressed increasing hostility toward NATO at every turn. As part of their fascist coup, the hard right wants to ultimately entirely switch sides - to ally with Russia and against Europe, since Russia represents everything they admire and Europe represents everything they hate.
Of course Russia is going to assist in that.
I think it’s less about compatible ideologies and more about the intention to destabilize the west.
China and Russia know damn well that another Trump presidency will continue to drive America into the ground.
Considering they hate us this is their best move. They want us to crumble and Trump is our best bet for that.
A strong America is Russia and chinas biggest hurdle.
Considering they hate us this is their best move.
This is a super naive way of looking at geopolitics, especially regarding China. We are their biggest trade ally. If the US crumbles, both of our economies implode. Trump wants to put insane tariffs on our imports from China. An economically strong US is to China's benefit since we are their single biggest trade ally (comparable to the entire European Union, which includes major trade allies as well). A strong US is not "China's biggest hurdle."
Russia geopolitically benefits from Trump in power because, among other things, Trump is fine letting Russia continue to ravage Ukraine with war and wants to pull us out of NATO (or at least cut funding to it). We don't have strong trade relations with Russia so they aren't directly affected if we economically flounder (the weak trade relations is why the sanctions on Russia did basically nothing long-term; Russia was already doing very little trade with the US).
China is not interested in "destabilizing the west." They would obviously benefit from being the economic center of the world, but they get there via strong geopolitical and economic relations with other relevant countries (which means not trying to cause those countries to collapse). Russia has less incentive to avoid causing turmoil in the US and EU, but right now it would very directly benefit from a Trump presidency, which in this case would be the driver behind Russia's decision to help put Trump back in power.
Trump said on a news conference before the election, “Russia, if you’re listening — I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens.”
Russia released DNC emails the next day.
Russia is an enemy of America and democracy and is and has been actively trying to overthrow our country via info and cyber warfare.
Am I the only one that finds it strange that all this shit with Russian hacks and the fascist uprising in America started quickly after Snowden was given asylum there?
Let's not fool ourselves here...there is no way if you or I were Putin he'd be allowed to stay without some of that info.
I mean the guy could have picked quite a few other places to go after committing treason that had non-extradition treaties with the US but he didn't.
And now thru back channeled manipulation Donald shit-his-pants Trump was elected president with that stolen info
It started with Bill Browder and the Magnitsky Act. The timelines are so close together that it’s hard to separate, but I think that the Magnitsky Act was when the real motivation came in on the Russian side, and Snowden (and any possible additional fuckin with they were able to do because of intel they gathered from him; I won’t say you are wrong) came afterwards, as their efforts were just first starting to gather momentum. But I definitely remember that as of Snowden getting asylum, they were already heavily actively engaged in ways to fuck with us, in a way I don’t think they were prior to 2012.
It’s sad and ironic and displeasing. The Magnitsky Act was a very rare instance of the US doing something on the world stage that really was motivated at least in part by simple concern for human rights. And we paid the biggest price for it - up to and including this present godawful clusterfuck of a well-funded and -equipped GOP explicitly trying to destroy America and making pretty good progress on it so far - far more than any consequences we ever face for doing our standard war criminal geopolitical evil.
I suspect that we're seeing a lot of this on Lemmy already. I've started paying attention to usernames of those who post content, and have found that it's just a couple people posting the vast majority of hyper-critical anti-Biden content. These posts tend to get hundreds of upvotes without many comments. I remember seeing similar behavior on Reddit in the previous election cycle, and on 4chan in the election before that.
I made !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net to test a new moderation approach which is designed to filter out a lot of the crap. I think you should try posting some articles there, and see whether you see the same hyper-critical anti-Biden content. I think I know what you're talking about, and I think the filtering bot will probably be able to detect and ban almost all of the users you're talking about.
You don't get it guys, there's literally no evidence that Russia likes Trump and wants Republicans to win! None! They never met with Russian operatives to discuss orphans (dropping the sanctions on Russia from the magnitski act, orphan exchange was retaliation from Russia)
There was never a young redhead Russian operative dating Republican politicians!
There was never a meeting between Trump and Putin where no US translators were allowed!
There was never an attempt to make a Trump Moscow hotel!
There was never a transaction between Paul Manafort and a Russian intelligence operative where he shared campaign information!
There was never a time that Trump said on a news conference before the election, “Russia, if you’re listening — I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens.” Russia never released the DNC emails the next day!
Sean Hannity yelled at me that Democrats are the ones helping Putin and they're the real Nazis so I believe it!
Always include the /s because otherwise you sound like several batshit crazy relatives of mine that would froth at the mouth with all that and mean it.
We're in the alternate timeline.
Yeah I basically channelled my father for that one lol Last time I saw him it was just a firehose of fox news talking points...
Donnie being supported by the Russians, is a feature, not a bug, since the cons think Russia is doing the right things when it comes to protecting whites, cishet, xtians, etc...
It all depends on why you're talking about Russia.
Russia wants Trump to win: No! Fake News! He's the hardest on Russia, more than any president ever! The Democrats are the ones working for Putin!
Russia in general: Russia is a great country with a strong leader, it's good to see Republicans pushing to emulate that! Ukraine would have never been invaded if Republicans were in power!
I’ll wait to see what @JimSamtanko thinks before forming my opinion. /s
Well, who could have guessed that.
Everyone.
Everyone could have guessed that. Remember: regardless of who the candidate is, blue no matter who isn’t just about democracy for the US. It’s for the entire world,
No way!
Well, yeah. Putin's now so close to the power he's always craved that of course he's dedicating maximum resources to planting his puppet back in the Oval.
NO..... FUCKING........... WAY!
With all those useful idiots demanding to step down.
This is my shocked face.
Yup. If people are frustrated with Joe Biden, They need to support BDS, No thanks, Goods Unite Us and Ranked choice.
Russia doesn’t need to do much, if anything; the dnc is on it.
If Russia does try to meddle, I hope they do so with the grace and order in which they bulldozed Ukraine. IIRC it was only 3 days, hard to remember back that far..
By recommending he get out of the race?
Not so much "recommending" as "shrieking and demanding," but yes.
Should tell you something, TBH. If Biden was a guaranteed fuckup that would deliver Trump, and replacing him was the only road to Democratic victory, we'd see all kinds of Russian bots stumping for Biden and saying what a great thing he was for the Democratic party, and as a proud Democrat I'm standing behind him and you should too.
Republicans actually seem quite happy to campaign against Biden for that reason. Maybe the upsurge of Biden support on lemmy is Republican shills 🤔
https://www.notus.org/2024-election/biden-heritage-republicans
