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Volcel Police is funny but do remember, there is no “Gooner Epidemic”

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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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Volcel vanguard has nothing to with gooning. It came about because redditors are mostly porn-brained males that can't stop making spaces on reddit uncomfortable for women at literally every single opportunity. Volcel vanguard spawned as a meme to shame people and counter that on the CTH subreddit.
It is useful and it is good and people absolutely do need to be told to shut the fuck up about it or else you end up with spaces that are made entirely uncomfortable for everyone else.
- yah it's always funny whenever i see someone complain about this because it serves a really useful purpose.
- I'm ace and while I do look at horny images from time to time, full-on pornography or sexually explicit talk still grosses me out, I sometimes feel prudish or childish about that as a result.
  I feel in a weird place when all this talk is made about normalising sex while being sex-negative, I don't want to push my preferences on all of society, y'know?
  Whenever I personally referenced the "volcel poIice" meme it was intended to be lighthearted, a friendly reminder that it got weird in a way that could give a chuckle.
  
  Whenever I personally referenced the "volcel poIice" meme it was intended to be lighthearted, a friendly reminder that it got weird in a way that could give a chuckle.
  I'm also asexual, and I think I always saw it that way?
  I think it's helpful to frame it in terms of a cultural context.
  For instance, Japan has a squeezable tanuki testicle toy for kids, whereas that probably wouldn't fly in the US (admittedly, the US doesn't have very many tanuki either) because the culture sexualizes just the mere existence of genitals, so people start acting weird if you bring it up that things like that exist in other countries.
  I would guess "normalizing sex" is probably more about the euphemisms and weird ways to talk about it while pretending to dance around it. As much as we should fight against compulsory sexuality that not everyone needs to have sex all the time, I think it's counterproductive to take the Texas "abstinence only STD roulette wheel" sex ed approach that isn't really helping anyone.
  In any case, I think that the meme's intended function of filtering out creeps is probably a good thing if it works, but I'm probably least qualified to speak on that.
- Yep. There's other spaces where folks can be horny and cringe. Here though, it's about dialectical materialism.
- Just look at many DSA chapters lol
- Thank you for the straightforward explanation

Sex is good. Porn is often not.
Other than a lot of porn being exploitative in it's production, overconsumption of porn is very common, and often contributes to people having weird attitudes to over sexualising women.
It fucks with your reward system. You can absolutely become addicted. It's not a particularly healthy habit. You can desensitise yourself to real sex and change the way you're able to enjoy it.
In these times, where you get served up porn content on your explore page for no good reason, I think porn consumption can easily become unhealthily pushed upon you.
The volcel police meme is a bit tired now, but I do think it's good that we keep this site mostly non sexual.
- fair point, especially about being served up sexual content in spaces otherwise not meant for it (like instagram). again, capitalism preys on humanity's basest desires and floods our markets with sexual content.
  and as an old, i just want to say that the "sex positivity" era of the early 2010s ran cover for throngs of abusers to get easy access to people who were exploring their sexual liberation and caused lots of harm to lots of good people, so it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth now.
  
  Yep, really sad. Just because the algorithm can detect I'm a young man, my explore page gets flooded with sexual content. I never search for that on Instagram, and I only ever open them to select the option 'stop showing me content like this' - and yet, just because my interests are otherwise very male, I will never stop being shown a steady stream of onlyfans girls.
  And yep, same as the free love generation in the 60s and 70s. Lot of pedos there. Lot of pedos in the hippy scene in general, even to this day.
  
  The free love movement during the 70s-80s included a lot of adults getting to sexual acess to teenagers, at least in europe it did. Thats why there are so much older media with straight up illegal age gaps. And of course french cinema where half of the stuff is about a 15 year old having a forbidden romance with her 40+ married poetry teacher.
- The people's VOLCEL VANGUARD are on the scene! PLEASE RESERVE YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS FOR STRATEGIC ACTS OF MASS REVOLUTIONARY CUMMING!!!
  
  This is my new favorite volcel vanguard post.
- overconsumption of porn is very commo
  i would consume way less porn if anyone within a 200 mile radius would wear a fucking mask

honestly voIcel police is just a really tired meme. that said I do really value the anti-horny culture of this particular board, it's played a big part in keeping this a good space for people that aren't cis men I think.
- Agreed. Making c/porn invite-only was a great idea.
  
  I c/porn I eat it
- honestly voIcel police is just a really tired meme.
- this is kinda funny considering the horniest part of hexbear is the trans mega
  
  Trans mega isn’t that horny all things considered, but some people do go overboard on occasion still.
  
  As they should. Queer sexuality is demonized and marginal. I am personally ace and lowkey volcel, yet it doesnt challenging horniness is something that can be done blindly and equally.
  
  ironic
- Yeah, just feels like another case of overcorrecting in some ways, but it's 100% better than the alternative.
  
  Its an historic element, a holdover from the r/chapotraphouse times, were actually "horny on main" people would like thirst over AOC's feet or any other marginal attractive woman.

Agreed but I think we can all also agree that when Norman Finkelstein talked about gooning being fascist it was both correct and one of the funniest things ever.
- Facts. Lmfao at thinking otherwise. If there were better economic oppurtunities how many of them would go into it? I mean really? They use industrial levels of lube and the extreme one go to the point of prolapse. The absolute state of the racist category. The transphobic titles that persist on there. The way sites had to crack down on the pedo shit. The doxxing and harrassment the workers put up with. The abuse on the sets. Shit is
  
  Then mfs go in on those workers when they switch to onlyfans for better pay and less physically taxing content
  
  porn is not fascistic wtf are you talking about lol
  
  Apparently being against the industrial sexual assault factory makes one a “SWERF”
- gooners are fascists in the making https://youtu.be/gcaaIvJPjYI
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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- Telling him about gooning was elder abuse
- I have seen some weird goon fetish thing, where whiteness and masculinity is “fetishized”, so I dont doubt it.
  
  Yeah, there’s some weird porn out there, and in our devolving fascist society a lot of the porn will be about how weird and fascist our society is. Porn is downstream of culture.
  You can also find weird fetish porn about black supremacy. Sissification is a weirdly common fetish now and that’s the opposite of fetishizing masculinity.

People online be like "I just saw a tiktok, new opinion downloaded" and go from there.
- It straight up contributed to the end of a relationship for me. Speech patterns/humor/knowledge all became tiktoked. It sucked.

Still upset at the kids for sexualizing the word Goon.
I can no longer call me and my possee the Goon squad
- Here it still means cheap wine

undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.
You don't even need the "undersocialized" or "young" qualifiers there. However the volcel police meme started back on the old sub it was quickly weaponized to target the sort of omnipresent low-level sexual harassment that creeps do all over reddit and it's managed to persist past the death of the sub and multiple ground shifts in site culture here because it works at suppressing that.
- While I disagree with a lot of the opinions posted all over this thread, the one about volcel police being tired is just blatantly wrong. Its a great meme purely as a tool to identify that people being horny when no one else wants them too should stop being public about it. This was even something the Chapo boys were saying, "do not get your political opinions from jerk-off sites"
  Close the tab, open up your favorite material. Lay one out and then come back and use the discussion better. Or just be a fucking adult and keep it to yourself unless the vibe is more explicit. Especially because so many more people read the posts than commenting, its nice to just have a bot you can ding up to get yourself posting and being upvoted.
  
  The people's VOLCEL VANGUARD are on the scene! PLEASE RESERVE YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS FOR STRATEGIC ACTS OF MASS REVOLUTIONARY CUMMING!!!
- The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

volcel vanguard is just to keep people from being weird when nobody asked, I don't see a problem with it and honestly never would have even associated with with gooner shit if you hadn't mentioned it

Sex is not bad, nor is being sexually liberated.
However sex and sexuality as it it treated under our current society is highly misogynistic and exploitative.
"Oh stop being a prude" is definitely a phrase uttered to many young women in the entertainment industry to shame her into exploiting her body for capital.
- "sex and sexuality as it it treated under our current society is highly misogynistic and exploitative." Repeat this again. I cannot say I know how women feel but from what those close to me say its a catch 22 for em in a lot of social situations in and out of the entertainment industry.

“We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it”
Idk maybe I am ignorant on history, but like…what time but the current would have MORE exposure to sexual content than the current internet age?
I do feel like we are living in one of the most if not the most sexually liberated and over exposed times in history for good or for ill I feel like that’s just obviously the case.
- Exposure to sexual content is inherently a modern thing because it's wildly artificial to think of sexual activity as "content." Depictions of sex acts are ancient though, they just weren't commodified (and obviously there's a big qualitative difference between naughty engravings and live action recordings). But I would say that when humans lived in big polygamic groups before any kind of family structures had developed (and with the family structure strict sexual regulation) you could say they were more sexually liberated.
- Didn't Pompeii literally have dicks carved into the street to point the way to the nearest brothel? I think the classical world was incredibly sexually liberated and similarly exposed to sex a lot more than we are.
  
  large parts of the the classical world were slave societies, including pompeii. that level of sexual exploitation really strikes me as at odds with 'sexual liberation'
  
  I think we need Marx here. When you just have little depictions of nudity and sex as art pieces here and there it's a very different phenomenon compared to the commodification of sex. When we're talking about a commodity, it fundamentally transforms the relation we have with the object, it stops being just a thing that exists with a use value, to being a product that is brought to market and owned. It is produced in mass. Exploitation and alienation become parts of the operating process necessary for it to enter the market. So on and so forth.
  
  not only that but the city had a prominent statue of Pan fucking a goat lol
  
  I wouldnt say liberated, but there was no filter. Graffiti of gay and lesbian (yes they were aware that it's possible) was found on the walls of public spaces. There is a story from ancient greek, where soldiers get another soldier's boyfriend to watch to give him courage in battle or something. There were mock law trials in rome, which place women and men on equal levels of being possible victims of SA.
  
  More so than medieval Europe I guess, but idk if the sheer amount and availability really compares. I dunno I’m not like a sex scholar by any means tho our current circumstances just feel a bit unique to me.
  
  i think there's probably a qualitative difference between vulgar graffiti and having a tiny machine in your pocket that has, and will be incentivized to create more, limitless simulations of people fucking for your gratification at any time.
- What does sexual liberation mean to you? Putting housing out of ~~young~~ most people's reach, dating being enclosed by apps under a monopoly, wastelands of soul-less sexual content made solely to satisfy markets and algorithms, and wave after wave of legislation criminalizing queerness, sex education, and existing in public space couldn't possibly be what you mean. So what do you?
  
  This and honestly I think the existence of dating apps is sexually repressive in and of itself.
  Many people today are uncomfortable with the concept of flirting with a stranger at a bar. And I don’t just mean “Man you just can’t sexually harass a woman like you used to!”
  Both men and women have now become accustomed to the idea that it’s only appropriate to flirt in the environment of dating app where flirting is inherently agreed on up front. It is only appropriate to do romance under the thumb of the corporations. Anything else would be a social faux pas, you wouldn’t want to potentially make someone uncomfortable would you? Best to stay in the meeting space designated to you b Capital.
  
  I mean it in the liberal sense of the word I guess. I don’t actually think any of it is all that liberating.
- Safe search didn't exist until 2009. We may have the perception of more access but we're not more exposed. Playboy magazine used to sell in stores
  Edit: I'd argue it only became more accessible because the internet is more accessible
  
  I remember the newspaper having an entire section where nude women were featured. And it was not a "special" kind that you had to go out of your way to subscribe too.
- Just as one example, the Victorian Era was 100% more sexually liberated in the general culture. Like, kink equipment became general fashion. People were having orgies.
  The fact that you feel like you’re overly exposed to sex is itself a sign that we live in a conservative, puritan culture.

- pull this up on my middle goon cave monitor for some background reading
  so there I was, gooning to my hexbear threads when

I prefer spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum so a little too much Puritanism is a fair trade off for me
- Why though? Why do you prefer that?
  Cause that’s kind of my point. The fact that people, including leftists, prefer spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum is the sign that we do not live in an era with too much exposure to sex and in fact we live in a very repressed and puritanical time.
  
  i prefer online spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum because i don't enjoy being sexually harassed by men. i go to irl queer events when i want that.
  
  I feel like its everywhere. Like, scrolling other social media, there's just, constant thirst traps, horny ass art, conversation topics that are thirsty as hell. Photos with just, a girl doing cosplay or another hobby are full of people harassing her.
  Some of the above things are 'fine', others aren't. Like, idk if people want to post and discuss their fetish art. But its all very gross to me, and I want to stay far away from it. I don't have any desire to talk about sexual content with anyone other than my partner.
  
  Why though? Why do you prefer that?
  Because it tends to get really weird really fast. Most people would probably be reasonable about it but you're almost certainly going to attract a few major weirdos too.
  Basically a "bad apple spoils the bunch" kind of thing.
  
  Idk honestly. For a while i thought i was ace but I'm just not that into sex or talking about it. Not for any moral reasons just cause
  
  Is the fact that people, including right-wingers, prefer spaces where race science talk is kept to a minimum, a sign that we do not live in an era with too much racism and in fact we live in a very equal and fair time?

Nice try. You thought you were gonna escape the long arms of the law?

Gooning behaviour the sexual activity? Niche fetish. Never tried it. Never had the time to try it.
Gooning behaviour aka the porn version of being "terminally online"? Annoying at best, community destroying at worst.
Gooning behaviour aka how my friends use it, aka "we have this one friend who refuses to leave the house and we joke that he spends all his time gooning but is actually having a mental crisis and resists all our efforts to help him"? Uh ....
So basically, words are the devil and they lead us astray with their multitudes.
- words are the devil and they lead us astray with their multitudes
  Incredible

Relatively new account.
Calls out hexbear site culture in a backhanded way, implying this is a problem that can be "fixed".
Makes very bold statements, the only source being a random tiktok video.
Conflates leftist ideas about women not being overly sexualised with right wing puritanical beliefs.
Makes very basic feel-good statements that don't commit to a strong position, AKA the "liberal politician" approach.
Acts as if they are just "helpfully reminding" hexbear to "be more normal" and "not fall for propaganda" while basically telling us to not worry and support status quo ideas.
Not sure if I should go "
" or "
" either way, this is some lame ass bait. Not everyone obsesses over how much people get laid as you do dude, get over it.
- Yeah, I don't know how anyone can watch these sorts of
  umm acktually... kind of smug pseudo intellectual tiktok videos. Even if I agree with a video, the sheer smugness and self-righteousness of this sort of content is so offputting. Tiktok is an awful place.
- First off, I’ve been here since the sub was banned and the lifeboat Discord, I’ve changed accounts a few times for opsec.
  To be quite honest I didn’t expect this to become such a struggle session. This wasn’t even supposed to be particularly a callout post of this site, it was more a comment on US culture broadly and the comment about the volcel police was supposed to be a site relevant joke.
  I shouldn’t have said the thing about “weird prudes,” that was rude, my point was just that this idea that these ideas have even crop up in leftist, pro-sw, pro-lgbt spaces like Hexbear.
  I certainly see how it comes off as backhanded attack on the site’s culture, and I’m sorry, that was not my intention.
  
  "Oh shit, they're onto us! Quick do some damage control! Say you've been a part of the site for years to give you credibility!" "Make sure you claim no responsibility while still pushing the right buttons to ensure they stay divisive!" "Quick, quick, pull out the phrasebook, give a non-commital apology!" "whew! Nailed it. No one will suspect us now."
  I'm only joking (or am I?), I just feel like being a bit mean. But this weird liberal politician way of speaking is not healthy. You can commit to a point and stick to your guns, it's ok. Though I am wondering why you thought this wouldn't cause a struggle session if you've been here for years. I've only been here for a couple of years, and your post's inflammatory nature is really obvious. It's clearly designed to treat your position on this as the "passive, neutral, correct" version of things, while accusing anyone who disagrees with you of believing in right wing conspiracies (poisoning the well against them). It seems obvious to me that this would cause a lot of discussion and argument, so I'm wondering what result you expected to get from this?
  
  The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

radlib take. sex is great, and people should be having it, and online pornography, which commodifies the most intimate and shared human experiences, and only serves to further atomize and alienate us from each other and ourselves, sucks. it produces less sex and less intimacy; it creates a market which degrades and exploits.
we easily diagnose mindless consumption as bad and deadening of the spirit, but yet people refuse to admit this when it comes to frictionless consumption of sexual gratification. why is this, why is the need to signal that one isn't a prude require an endorsement of gooning?
- and online pornography, which commodifies the most intimate and shared human experiences, and only serves to further atomize and alienate us from each other and ourselves, sucks.
  Pretty sure people would make porn and share it in a communist society too. Not everybody considers sex as this sacred intimate act that needs to be hidden from the rest of the world, some people are just naturally extremely horny.
  
  i don't care about what happens in a liberated society. i care about what happens in a (current) neoliberal, thatcherrite non-society, where everyone is merely individuals, where the collective good is spit on, where the profit motive creates uncaptured externalities which befall those on the losing end of class distinctions. it is in this world wherein online pornography is incentivized, produced and commodified; and it is this one which is reified precisely by this sort of production in particular-- because a world in which you can instantly gratify yourself alone, all the time, in lieu of having to go outside and talk to and then fuck someone else, is one which forgoes the development of constitutive attachments with others, a necessary requirement of community.
  if some people are so invariably into consuming porn, i would suggest they opt for capitalism -- though Marx may have allotted for gooning in the morning before fishing at midday and critiquing after dinner, capitalism will surely provide a more varied and variegated porn under the profit motive. all that is holy is profaned, and these people (who, apparently, are NOT the product of their environments, but would be necessarily just, really, irreducibly horny) would be better off there.
  
  Sure. But a porn industry is a completely different beast, especially in a neoliberal hellhole.

“Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”
Hmm some people maybe
The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.
That's true
“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant
That's NOT true
We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time.
Agree
There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.
I strongly disagree, I think boys these days get exposed, and expose themselves, to sexual content far more than even when I was young
Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to.
Yes
BTW Let's tone things down, struggle session over GOONING is wild, people
- “Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant
  That's NOT true
  The World Health Organization disagrees with you, as does the American Psychological Association. I don’t know how to tell you “this disease is fake” in a more definitive way than “All of the experts on this subject say it’s not real”
  
  I agree with you like 90% but I don't think you can say it's not real at all just because they decided (for now) not to classify it as a mental disorder. There definitely exist people that have a very unhealthy relationship to pornography that it very negatively impacts their lives.
  I agree it's way overblown due to religious brainworms tho.
- porn addiction is fake, go to church less
- BTW Let's tone things down, struggle session over GOONING is wild, people
  not too surprising, it's getting everyone's libidinal juices flowing arguing about it, what fun
  
  Liminal space
  Libidinal space (preferably far away from here)
- That's NOT true
  OK but it is actually true though.
  What now?
  
  I deny it

- and that's why he's the goat 🐐

Y'all talking about puritanism as if the reason for the volcel police isn't to make sure our precious bodily fluids aren't sapped and impurified.
- The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.
  
  Dammit I walked straight into that one

l don't think porn is categorically problematic. I think the content of the porn and the worldview that it espouses can absolutely be harmful, though.
I'd compare it to saying stand-up comedy is good or bad. It's neither. Stand-up comedy is a genre, and within it are smart folks doing great work AND chuds spewing hate.
My problem with porn is that it often objectifies women and primes men to view women as sex objects.
I think many men don't have actual friends that are women, and primarily engage with women romantically or sexually (and tbh, I don't think most men are self-aware enough to distinguish between the two).
The media we consume (porn included) influences our worldview. If men watch porn (or stand-up) that has misogynist undertones and don't have friends that are women as a counterbalance, I think they will trend towards a misogynist worldview.

I think there are super healthy and important conversations that should be had society-wide about more openness to sexuality. I think peoples' problems with porn almost entirely exist because there is so little conversation and openness to it in everyday life. Porn becomes everything a person knows or thinks about sex because it's the only place you learn or talk about it in any way.
I do think it'd be neat if this site had some enclosed space for NSFW chats, but it's also not a priority. If it's a binary choice, I'd prefer it be a creep-free zone.
- :this:

Bit is kinda tired when anything that could be considered titillating, whether fanservice or people just calling a character attractive, gets labeled as "gooner material"
- Its just the de-elucidation that is common to every mainstreamed word. "Karen", "Incel", "Pick me", "Girlboss", all suffered the same fate.

volcel police
- The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

On the one hand porn taught me how to have good sex. When I lost my v-card to my girlfriend she straight up asked me "are you sure you're a virgin" (jokingly since we had good sex together). BUT on the other hand, I've caught myself in the absence of intimacy engaging with porn I wouldn't feel comfortable showing anyone else. So there's for sure a ratchet effect like is common in addiction, to simply say it's not addictive I think is too dismissive.

ok gooner

Some of these comments here really make it seem like the word "gooning" is just the word "dgenercy" rebranded.
- Honestly half the time that is basically how I see it used everywhere lately

Porn addiction is very real
- This is overwhelmingly not what the experts believe
  
  Bro over half the men I’ve dated have erectile dysfunction in their twenties and can’t cum from anything but their own hand because they’ve nuked their pleasure centers from porn addiction. They all want to choke and have rough sex immediately and can’t get off to anything else. You can believe whatever the “experts” say but I will believe my own lying eyes
  Every person who dates men I’ve spoken to has a similar experience. You might as well tell me “experts say Depression isn’t widespread”. Yeah ok dude I know what I see
  
  Where is this information coming from specifically? I'm interested to learn

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- This is so fucking wild
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First they came for the gooners, and I did not speak up, for I was not a gooner.
- They targeted gooners. Gooners.

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For anyone reading this who needs to hear it, it's very possible to become addicted to anything that causes you to experience a dopamine high. That's kinda the point of dopamine as I understand it: it makes you want to do something again. If your relationship with that activity becomes dysfunctional, you could very easily find that your desire to engage with it has become a need to engage with it without you even noticing the shift until you try to stop. The chuddy framing of a "gooner epidemic" where the blame for it is shifted to sex workers and sexual liberation is wrong. From my perspective, there seems to be an epidemic of untreated addiction in general where I am driven by the slow collapse of civil society in the imperial core. So please don't avoid facing and seeking help if you need it for harmful addictions just because the subject of your addiction is usually perfectly healthy in moderation.
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Your cringe non-existent gooner epidemic
My wholesome based stimfap epidemic

use of the word goon is an alt-right psy-op
lol ok. good post tho.

"Gooning this" & "gooning that", read the literature liberals. Whacking off is solved theory, Just build a metal & wood veneer box to jack it in. Orgone theory has already spelled all this out for over 100 years.

I kink-shamed my garden hose the other day. I apologize for nothing.

this thread reminds me of the time i saw people on here say that looking at porn at work is sexual assault
- What a creepy and weird thing to do at work
  
  sure but it's not "assault" and imo characterizing it that way kinda detracts from actual assault in a way that makes me uncomfortable
- "looking at porn at work" implies looking at porn in a manner that other people who don't consent to seeing or hearing sexual acts can see or hear it without trying.
  I think that has to be at least sexual harassment or misconduct or something, right?
  
  Yeah like definitely gross and on the harassment spectrum but it was being characterized as R word sexual assault, which is what I object to, but even that objection gets harsh condemnation (ironic in a thread accusing hexbear of weirdo puritanism)
  i don't get why people want to be like, gross thing is just as bad as the worst thing, you're a chud if you disagree!! but it's a response I saw last time too so i guess i shouldn't have brought it up
  
  Personally I was reading it as “watching porn at work and keeping it on the down low and maybe getting caught” and not “projecting porn on the big screen in the middle of the office”
  One of those is a bit weird and awkward. One is fucked up. They are very much not the same.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it.

Is gooning even an actual thing? It sounds more like a comedy bit that got taken too seriously and became something "everyone knows" than something that actually happens. Like "kids eat Tide Pods" or "furries are using litter boxes at schools."
- Technically yes, but it’s a very niche kink that not that many people actually engage in. Like imagine if vore was blown up in media until everyone was worried about the vore epidemic. Thats about the same level.

ACAB INCLUDES THE VOLCEL POLICE
- The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

oh hey i skipped this when i saw it before cuz i thought it was just /c/badposting. now I'm here cuz dirt_owl and it's just a bad take highlighting a non-existent problem.

undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people
as an undersocialized enby I feel erased and unappreciated

Volcel police amber whataboutism
- The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
  نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.
- Amber.

Gooning is endemic now because the government ended goon lockdowns too early

- There's a reason Actually Existing Socialist states have restrictions here
  Cultural conservatism amongst the leadership, not a deeply considered marxist doctrine.
  This entire post is just you trying to make your personal hangups a societal problem.
  
  What did they say? It's all deleted now.

I don't know what a gooner is but i have to disagree with the "porn addiction is not real" statement. It's a very real thing, and like other addictions, people simply refuse to admit they have a problem.
As a male i've had to endure porn talks throughout my life, from my high school circle, to my college circle, to my coworker circle, to catching my uncles watching porn, to every single random countryside worker. Literally every conversation with men ends up about porn or homophobia.
No kidding but at some point i had to watch porn as "research" just in case i had to talk about it in a drinking game or something, because "name porn genres" is something that always comes up in drinking games. How is this not real?
- i have to disagree with the "porn addiction is not real" statement
  You disagree with experts on the topic then. “Porn addiction is not real” is the opinion of the WHO and APA among many other groups. This is the academic consensus.
  As a male i've had to endure porn talks throughout my life, from my high school circle, to my college circle, to my coworker circle, to catching my uncles watching porn, to every single random countryside worker. Literally every conversation with men ends up about porn or homophobia.
  People talking about porn is not evidence of addiction, nor is being caught watching porn. Would you say people are addicted to Star Wars because every conversation lately ends up about Andor? The fact that people are uncomfortable talking about porn is itself evidence of us living in a puritanical culture.
  Also as a generally male-presenting non-binary person this is not my experience talking to men, porn really does not come up that often at all.
  i had to watch porn as "research" just in case i had to talk about it in a drinking game or something, because "name porn genres" is something that always comes up in drinking games
  Again I don’t see how this is evidence of anything. “I had to experience a thing people talk about during drinking games in order to answer those questions” yeah? I had to watch Friends because it comes up during bar trivia all the time. That is not evidence of widespread Friends addiction.

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