Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies by suicide
Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies by suicide
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Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies by suicide
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The other comments be like, "this lady is dumb because she killed herself and definitely just changed her mind and definitely wasn't murdered, despite expressing that she will likely be murdered."
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Right? If I'm ever inclined to believe that someone(s) is going to murder me, and tell my family & friends about it, and that I'm not suicidal, it's because I want people to look into it if I die. It's stunning to read all of these comments saying that maybe she was sitting on the fence, or that a half-decade is a lot of time to change your mind. Like, how fucking powerful do your enemies have to be before people are at least willing to entertain the possibility that you were killed for globally humiliating multiple multi-millionaires and their friends?
I swear to Christ, I think it'll take a dead-man's switch tied to a private investigator and/or hitman to get things moving after a death under suspicious circumstances... "I think someone's going to kill me, if it happens, here's $30K to ensure that something's done about it. Don't accept jerkoff diffusion from impotent wankers or fools. Make sure that dolts don't say I just got sad and shot myself in the back of the head twice."
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People say shit like “half decade” to make five years sound longer. I understand people can change in five years, often do not share their suicidal ideation but she was a bright woman who understood the weight of her position, if nothing else it’s shady and needs to be looked into just to confirm.
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Nice one, so I guess that you've never said "half dozen" then, right? Because you wouldn't want six eggs to sound like a bigger number, right?
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Are you being deliberately stupid?
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The tweet was written in 2019.
Since then there has been a global pandemic that affected a lot of people's mental health, and she had had become estranged from her husband and children.
I'm not saying that there is no chance someone did this, but there was reasons why this might be a legitimate suicide.
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This is a stupid thing to write tho unless you update it regularly and verifiably. Anyone can fake it and things change, maybe someone wasnt suicidal but then became suicidal.
In this case i wouldnt doubt it for a second if someone claimed she was murdered, but thats beside the point. If you want to make sure that you cant be "suicided" then you need people close to you that can act as witnesses to your mental well being right before you got killed.
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She is literally trying to avoid having the people close to her getting targeted, it's like right there in the post.
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She wrote "do not let this go away". That means she wanted to bring as much attention as possible to her killing. But also what she wrote is plain stupid. Her family will never be or feel safe no matter what they do.
Even if you dont want to directly involve your family, there are better ways to make it hard for others to fake your suicide.
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Why are you claiming she faked her suicide?? Are you trying to say she’s still alive?
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for others to fake your suicide
"others" as in the people that want to make it look like a suicide
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I’ve never seen someone too stupid to use the word “stupid” before. Incredible stuff, thank you
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Someone being dead doesnt make the bad decisions they made before their death immune to criticism. Idk why people behave like it does.
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That Tweet is six years old isn't it? I guess you can change your mind in that time.
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Have your plans to not commit suicide been altered 180° in the last 6 years, or are you still opposed to the idea? See how that works, it's not like picking your favourite flavour of chips or movie, is it?
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Two people close to me have gone from "normal" to suicidal and back again in the last 6 years, for different reasons and at different times. Thankfully they are both stable and enjoying their lives now.
If you've not witnessed anything like that, count yourself lucky. I remember talking to people about suicide when I was younger and couldn't understand how anyone could get to that place until I saw someone I know really well go through a complete mental breakdown.
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It kind of blows my mind that suicide seemed so outlandish to you back then tbh. It's always seemed like a reasonable and, in some unfortunate cases, necessary final escape plan to me. But maybe that's a product of having not-so-great parents, depression, and growing up in sometimes middling/sometimes severe poverty?
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Yes it is a product of those things, if you're thinking about it then please see someone and work out a path to better mental health.
We only get one life, it would be a tragedy to waste it!
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I appreciate you saying so, but I've been doing relatively fine over here. Unless faced with a life of literal torture, I have no intention of leaving this world any time soon!
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Glad to hear it!
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I can answer yes in both directions. It's amazing the toll stress can have on your mental health, whether that stress be environmental factors or biochemical imbalances. In the right, or wrong, environment 6 years can completely change who you are.
This isn't to say she committed suicide, I don't know her and barely know of her, but your opinion is verifiably incorrect, and more likely to be incorrect for someone who has suffered significant trauma followed up by years of emotional abuse.
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Just 4 years ago I was on the verge of doing it. Today while still having the recurrent though, I'm doing a lot better. And every single suicidal/depressive people is a different world, so yes, people can have 180° change in less than 6 years.
There is no single rule of thumb to apply here, as much as ignorance may lead you yo believe so.
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Mine, no, but I definitely know people who went from very happy with their lives to deep depression in a shorter period then that.
That doesn't necessarily equal suicidal tendencies in all cases but there's certainly common ground been the two.
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Im not currently in chronic extreme pain nor am I terminal, were that to change I might consider suicide.
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I have had a day where I was sure I wanted to die and years where I didn't. It's possible for it to change in an instant. I don't know any details of her situation, but just pointing out that that can change from moment to moment.
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Jeez, I just suggested that it's possible.
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