how badly could a pelican fuck me up in a fight?
how badly could a pelican fuck me up in a fight?
DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.
there's a brown pelican that hangs out on the railing of a very narrow portion of a boardwalk nearby. the only reason it makes me nervous is because it's huge, but their nails look short, and their beaks are pointed, but curved downwards so they would have to try to bite me with that long thing instead of pecking me.
like, if a bird capable of clawing or eating my eyes out attacked my face, I'd honestly have no qualms about killing it immediately. but if I ever get attacked by a pelican, it looks like I could just kind of hold it off without having to hurt it. am I right in that?
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I'm gonna let everyone in on a lil secret.
You can absolutely fuck up a bird. Their bones are hollow and light, making them super kickable. Even a 4" human still has multiple feet of height over most species of bird, meaning you can wind up a solid kick and still probably send whatever beaked menace is after you flying. If it comes for your eyes or face, even your weakest punch will give it pause.
Now, defending yourself from a bird attack without harming the bird attacking you? Yeah that's really hard, because most of your immediate reactions like trying to grab or restrain it will likely result in hurting the bird.
The image of a 4 inch tall human towering over a bird amuses me.
And where were they now The little people of Stonehenge And what would they say to us If we were here tonight
Except for swans... which are giant geese. Those two are very durable.
At least one person has died from being attacked by a swan while kayaking.
Realistically, if that person had no regard for the bird, they could've just grabbed it and strung it's neck.
“Maybe he didn’t want to hurt the animal,” Hensley’s father-in-law, George Koutsogiannis, told the Sun-Times. “Maybe he didn’t fight back enough when the swan attacked him....I can’t understand how this was possible.”
A single swan can't actually physically overpower a person, but people can panic and make bad choices, especially when in water and confronted with aggressive wildlife.
That's why I specifically said 'while kayaking' but also I've cared for geese, roosters, and swans.
Ever been attacked by any of those animals? I have. Roosters are the worst. They have these sharp spikes on their legs that draw blood. I've kicked a rooster with everything i had because it was spurring me and going for my face. Itd didnt just die, thing kept coming at me. I kicked it several times without holding back and it just kept attacking. Took two people to catch it so i could get in my car. The rooster was fine. I was scratched to hell.
That rooster was small. Now imagine a goose or swan with the same attitude.
I've worked many farms and those birds don't fuck around. If youre so confident by all means fuck around with those birds and find out. I won't stop you.
Geese and swan don't have anything sharp, and I'm sure had you wanted to, you could've grabbed the cock by the neck and wrung it without it being able to actually kill you.
Annoying and perhaps even need medical attention for scratches? Yeah. KILL YOU?
Nah.
I think you're misunderstanding me here.
The way birds attack is basically the embodiment of chaos. Grabbing a flapping, sqwaking, incredibly fast and pissed off bird isn't easy, near impossible. I wanted to snap that roosters neck, and tried to grab his fucking legs as they coming at me. Needed help that day lol
I used to have to catch these bastards and put them in the coop every night. It was my least favorite part of the job. The hens were a delight, loved them. Roosters and geese can fuck off though.
Sure, one might not kill you, but add in a body of water, slick mud, obstacles(things geese and swans are around frequently) ect and someone can definitely get very injured or die because they got knocked over and hit their head or whatever. Plus they're really goddamn aggressive and that can surprise people.
Exercise caution, and don't underestimate them my friend.
Sure, one might not kill you
My point exactly, mister bird expert.
someone can definitely get very injured or die because they got knocked over and hit their head or whatever
That can happen literally anywhere, anytime, to anyone, with no influence from any sort of avian.
If you wish to be careless around aggressive birds go ahead.
I'm advising caution for reasonable folks who actually wish to minimize injury to themselves and don't get a hit of dopamine from being deliberately contrarian online.
Enjoy your day my friend! Hope you got your fix.
You wanted a fix of "look what an expert I am", while ignoring the fact that you were wrong the whole time.
Birds can not overpower humans. They can pose dangers to people who don't want to harm the birds, but if a human does want to harm a bird, the human wins. Doesn't really matter which bird and which human, if you stipulate an adult human.
Have there been deaths related to birds? Yes. Can they pose risks, even severe ones, like, say, through sickness? Yes.
Was that the discussion? No.
You're the contrarian here, my friend. I'm just agreeing with the earlier guy who said what is a very clear fact; birds can't overpower humans.
You came in linking an article which I then read, quoted, and then you started backpedaling and now you're accusing me of being a contrarian because I called you out on your contrarian argument which isn't even supported by the thing you linked or any supposed experience you have.
Hope you got your fix of highroading. Enjoy your day! Think positive thoughts and don't dwell on this massive L you took! :))
You seem pleasant. Hope whatever it is you're are taking out on me resolves itself.
Ah, more highroading and ad hominem.
It's okay, it's just a silly thing on a forum. No-one cares you were wrong.
I also wouldn't fuck with Turkeys. The wild ones are smart enough to actually try to get the hell away from you. The domestic ones are the stupidest fucking animals on the planet, and unlike sheep, they are MEAN. If they think they have a chance to take you, they'll get the whole damn flock to dogpile you till you start throwing these 20-30 pound birds.
I had an incredibly aggressiveale duck that would come after me all the time. He was big, like 20lbs at least, and I'd kick him in the chest with the side ofy foot when he came at me all angry like. His chest was the meatiest part of him, so I wasn't worried about damaging him with kinda wimpy kicks. Bastard became soup real quickly, though. Overly aggressive birds in my flock don't get the privilege of being pets.
I too have a chicken-kicking story. Posting now so’s I’ll remember to write it out later.
did you know that one of the reasons their bones are hollow is because they assist the lungs with intaking oxygen to provide all the oxygen needed for flight? it's not just weight saving
TIL, that's really neat.
Now do Canada Goose.
Canadian Geese are how I got this experience, I used to live in a town that they regularly migrated through and got into two scraps with them in my youth. They're one of the few birds that I have zero sympathy fucking up, because both times they tried to attack me, I was just trying to quickly get through their territory with my lunch.
If you're ever attacked by one, aim for center mass and give it as much force as you can. I've never had geese swarm me after seeing one of their comrades get obliterated.
What about a horse sized duck?