!vegan@lemmy.world mod suppresses criticisms of fediverse spam campaign, using mass ban technique to silence opposing viewpoints
!vegan@lemmy.world mod suppresses criticisms of fediverse spam campaign, using mass ban technique to silence opposing viewpoints
Will it be effective?
Spoiler
No, it was not very effective.
EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342
If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.
EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!
EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!
EDIT 4: The mod in question has now been removed as a mod of the !vegan@lemmy.world community, as a result of their abuse of power.
https://lemmy.world/post/19731457
This was their response:
EDIT 5: This will be my final update, since as far as I see it, the issue this thread focuses on has been resolved. To quote Beaver herself in a very ironic comment she made directed towards someone else:
Clearly this was all just a case of...
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I knew this would end up here.
Probably your conscience letting you know it was wrong.
Was that your goal? Just to stir up shit?
Not a vegan, but what's the point from the other side?
It seems like non vegan people downvote the posts from that community without contributing at all, and then are surprised they get banned
If you guys are willing to debate vegan topics, why not create a !vegandebate and post content there?
Or just block the community and move on
It's not the vegan posts people are down voting, but there's been a huge amount of "memes" that do not contribute to the vegan discussion but just try to divide the community
They are probably trying to identify people who would rather downvote or post cheeky comments (see OP) rather than block the community, or not interact with it
Most people only interact with votes; not comments. If the rule is “No downvoting” make it an official rule and stop banning people under the pretense of breaking rule 5.
With the current thread on !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world how "communities should allow everyone to interact if they are not private", the likelihood of someone else creating the same thread as this one with "look at those authoritarian mods who ban everyone" is quite high
You mean this?
Oh shoot, so the mod in question (of this thread) has since been removed as a moderator?
I've edited the main post to reflect this development, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Yes. Several others as well:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModAddCommunity&modId=9185234
ETA: In case you haven’t already seen it:
I meant the thread you were predicting 😅
And what about those commenting on good faith?
And what's the problem with voting on public posts on a public forum?
I'd love to see vegan content, not ... whatever meme shitshow that community has become.
We can always ask for better.
And what about those commenting on good faith?
Do you have examples? That modlog is a bit busy as you know, I'm not going to go through it
And what’s the problem with voting on public posts on a public forum?
What's the problem with banning on a public forum?
There was a post yesterday about vote manipulation by bots (https://feddit.org/post/2795018 ), if people just downvote the vegan content without contributing, it's not that far from that.
Or maybe it just comes from them seeing downvotes as "non relevant to the community" and not "disagree", hence getting rid of people who use it the other way.
I'm really not sure to get why it's such a big deal. You got banned from a small community on Lemmy.
- Were you going to participate to this type of community? Then create another one and post there, if yours is better moderated, people will come to yours (my experience in the past on a different topic)
- Were you not going to engage with that type of content? Then move on. I'm not interested in US politics, if all the US politics communities would ban me that would be fine, I would just move on.
I'm not doing your homework for you.
Participating in a conversation ain't homework. And if you don't want to have a conversation, don't bother replying.
Bad mods causing drama ending up on fediverse drama. More news at 11.
I mean, it was kinda inevitable lol.
It's one of those things where once you go full jerk, it gets attention. Unavoidable really, unless instance admins want to totally ban "drama" communities, which would just end up as posts on instances that don't ban drama communities :)
Preemptive banning is a perfect example of prime drama.
In case you weren't aware: that was the full jerk.
Welcome, and thank you for joining us.
What are your motivations behind posting these memes? Are they not slightly provocational?
I thought the memes were funny though I suppose from the meat eater view they can be seen as slightly provocative.
The memes we're referring to seem to have resulted in an increase in moderation action. Is this inadvertent, or were the posts intended to drive up or surface critical commentary?
It was clearly purposeful.
Let's give them a chance to speak, please.
They deleted that account. Maybe they'll use one of their sock puppets?
Honestly, what a loser. Couldn't stand the heat of their own kitchen.
Not a vegan, but what’s the point from the other side?
It seems like non vegan people downvote the posts from that community without contributing at all, and then are surprised they get banned
If you guys are willing to debate vegan topics, why not create a !vegandebate and post content there?
Or just block the community and move on
Are you just gonna copy and paste the same comment?
You have to appreciate their efficiency.
You're the OP, I guess you deserved to have it too
Well I suppose I have to block the community now, or else it's gonna be all awkward.
I mean, it is a valid point to be brought up. A year ago when I joined Lemmy, one of the first advices I've read for new people starting out is to block communities they don't want to see posts from - for whatever reason it may be.
What happened to that stance? I feel like if it were any other subject than veganism, people wouldn't bat an eye. I'm not out here arguing that being vegan is like being part of a minority, but there sure as hell is a lot of vegan bashing on reddit. On Lemmy too, it seems
There's also voting to voice what you want to see in a community. If you block every community that has content you don't like, there won't be anything left.
I see what you mean. However, I think downvoting to curate a community's contents shows that you are an active participant in the community which many of the people who drive-by downvote usually aren't
What happened to that stance?
I don't know, seems reasonable advice
Trump could amp the rage: 'they dont eat cats and dogs, they feed them vegan!'
I wanna add that I like your community, I like how you stood up to that rogue admin, I like when you annoy carnists, I like your ban of OP, and I also like that c/fediverselore has posts like this. This community is a tool for calling out mod decisions, and some of those decisions will be good ones that don't need calling out. It's still better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
That's it, I'm banning you from my acquaintances.
For the record, I think you contribute a lot to Lemmy, and I really appreciate it. OP's being melodramatic because blocking a community chock full of content they'd rather not see on their personalized feed (and isn't hateful, illegal, etc.) isn't good enough for them. I guess they also need to troll and police different perspectives and how many posts they comprise on this great fedi platform. That's good for Lemmy /s. Someone should post a PSA about blocking communities that don't break rules but just aren't one's cup of tea. The behaviour helps Lemmy grow and stay diverse. For similar reasons, lemmynsfw (ie, the main porn/adult instance) removed downvotes: because minority communities (eg, rarer kinks) were being downvoted into oblivion - stifling growth and frustrating community members and mods - by people downvoting stuff they didn't like on their feed versus blocking it