i know what paper scanners are, but yes, my question may imply that i want to know what a scanner is in general

you seem slightly sad, wanna discuss?

i would believe this, if the physics in our dreams stays consistent, which it does not

i did not necessarily me mean our as in the person who is dreaming, our as in mostly humans, it is like a diorama we run, not exactly playing sims in our mind

i have no idea what cyclon or scanner is, but man sure is dope

i don't know how the /s in the middle looks, if you just want it to appear verbatim, use the code mode /s, to use it, wrap whatever you want to keep verbatim between pair of 3 back ticks hello

for those who did not get it, this statement was sarcastic and written without /s

no (yes), i prefer no sarcasm marker ideally, but if you have to, i prefer /s over some others (i dont like /jk or lol). If you can't tell sarcasm from not sarcasm, you really should not be using internet.

i like /s

well that gives me some soothe

my family is dying and i dont like it, atleast get me on the tracks with them, would not be able to live with the guilt anyway

i dont really have anything to add or ask, but appreciate what seems like unicode character in your username.

i may be wrong here, but if i remember correctly, in ech, essentially our first communication is done with some central server (which as of now is mostly cloudflare) and then they make some connection with target server, and then a channel is established between us and target. my google-fu brought me this , which is basically this only

https://cf-assets.www.cloudflare.com/zkvhlag99gkb/3C9ceBTx5AQXu8tS0lgzdF/55ea89f5a56843db15296b2b47f7b1c2/image3-17.png (https://blog.cloudflare.com/encrypted-client-hello/)

I am unfamiliar with QUIC, and quick search basically tells it is kinda like multilane highway for udp.

If I have to compare, (not a network engineer or a person who has studied networking, to me anything beyond the simple protocols seems magic), QUIC seems like a techt which is only used after you have made connection with target, so its implementation is google independent (they seem to be lead developers for this). Whereas in ECH, cloudflare are the primary devs, but also the holder for the public keys (someone else can also be the holder, but i dont know of any other provider currently, maybe my lack of knowledge here)

Essentially just an extension of your point that implementation is lacking

if i am not wrong, it is because essentially both are same (slight differences in what is allowed and what is not, https://github.com/IJMacD/rfc3339-iso8601), but RFC is more free as in freedom

for me, currently the problem is over reliance on Cloudflare, which is yet another big tech company

I live in a country where 10s of millions died, due to partition. So i have seen blood. And what were believes of the people who saw it first hand - just stop where we are and restart building from here. The thing is, we believe violence can solve everything, it is the last weapon of game, that when we pick, we end story there, but that is not always the case, believing that violence is last resort - is also very naive according to me - From a fellow naive. Consider this a goodbye from me for today, hope to meet you in some other post (or irl) someday.

Also from the evolutionary biology perspective - top of food chain is the worst place to affect anything. These top pedators depend on all the bottom clogs to spin well, and if they dont, almost always top of food chain suffers. Dinos were wiped because they were just too big to handle suffocation, there prey (for carnivore dinos) were either dead or in burrows which they could not access. One of the only good top of food chain members are sharks - because they are just built good and still have large varied diets, and it is not like all shark species have survived.

I am not really trying to find it either, consider this just a rant at clouds.

this is from my original post - last line.

I dont want an answer for whether war or violence is bad or not - I never did. My title was bad, and you gave an answer which felt like answering just the title - because in the middle, I ask many questions, and even answer them myself. Also now post title is also changed for that

As a person who has lost folks in communal violence - yes you do. You dont want more violence. Many of my folks died, or changed religions, but eventually everyone was just tired of riots, and stopped. That is reasoning - your resources are dwindling and you can not out last - try to reason out.

Also since I am not out for your life - try to reason with me - instead of throwing big statements - which you and i both know i would not stop you from defending yourself. try to reason. If you will, please read the edits and replies I give to others (more opportunities for you to downvote me) maybe you find flaws in my arguments - present them - and on there basis - reason with me

edit - spelling

sorry, i am tired, but i have answered your question above. In short - we are shortsighted, and not really that smart. we always view history from tinted scoped lenses, if we find situations where violence was necessary, then we also find situations where it did not result in violence. And even if last time it required violence does not equate to violence this time to. Re-evaluate all situations, That is the least we can do, and getting violent is a very taxing activity on us. If try to reason, the time it would take for it to be just as taxing is much larger, so reasoning well is still pretty beneficial.