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  • if you want to use the sentiment expressed in this post as an argument for marxism being good, which seems pretty transparent in this case, then that same sentiment being used to justify eugenics isn't a good thing for said argument

    i'm not that concerned with the precise definition of "opposite", but i am concerned with whether or not the post's logic is sound

  • but that's literally what the comment's saying? and you're saying "that's an example of the opposite?

    e.g., there's a pretty good argument that pre-natal screening is a form of eugenics

    if you describe the mechanics of pre-natal screening to somebody, i suspect most would be in support of that, but wouldn't be if you described it using the term "eugenics"

    like, if you were to notice that completing tertiary education makes it more difficult for people to have children, and you decided to create some form of government aid to offset that, then oopsie daisy you just did a eugenics, but you could absolutely package that idea in a way that most people would instinctively go "yeah that sounds okay"

    also to preempt pls nobody do the intellectually dishonest thing of pretending me following this line of argument means im in love with eugenics and am here to argue for more eugenics or that i just dont think eugenics is such a bad thing after all thnk u

  • i'm baffled as to what's going on here

    • if you describe the mechanics of eugenics, people like the idea
    • if you label the mechanics of eugenics as eugenics, people do not like the idea

    versus

    • if you describe the mechanics of marxism, people like the idea
    • if you label the mechanics of marxism as marxism, people do not like the idea
  • but that's not what the comment said?

    Lots of people promote eugenics

    people sometimes end up accidentally talking themselves into eugenics and promoting eugenics before somebody points out that they're talking about eugenics

  • how is that an opposite?

    an opposite would be something everybody thinks is a bad idea until you name it

    unless you're saying people disagree with the concepts and goals of eugenics until you say "but that's just eugenics" at which point they're fully on board?

  • skill issue

    word is fine if you know how to use it

    none of its direct competitors have the same feature set, and a word processor that can give me compile time errors is not one i'm going to use with much enthusiasm