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Peter Molyneux thinks generative AI is the future of games, all but guaranteeing that it won't be
www.rockpapershotgun.com Peter Molyneux thinks generative AI is the future of games, all but guaranteeing that it won't be

Peter Molyneux thinks players will be able to generate games from a single prompt in 25 years.

Peter Molyneux thinks generative AI is the future of games, all but guaranteeing that it won't be

Title made my day so I'm sharing it.

(Peter Molyneux is the game developer that always over-promises, not to be confused with Stefan Molyneux, who is just some fascist.)

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NPR journalist experiencing ai heresy
  • It's trash as an idea generator.

    The only useful thing I've gotten out of a (text) AI is asking it to guess functions of keyword mechanics in games. Like I was designing personality traits for AI leaders in a strategy game, and had a dozen bad candidates for "over produces defenses." So I told ChatGPT to try to guess the meanings of bunkerist, hoxhaist, prepper, turtle, protectionist, survivalist, isolationist, guardian. Which did narrow it down to bunkerist, turtle, and protectionist (note that this is literally wrong in the case of protectionist). Normally I'd try to poll a bunch of random people for this sort of thing, and try to avoid anyone who's trying to be clever. So it did save some work there.

    It won't come up with anything useful going the other way around though ("list some possible names for traits of AI leaders in a strategy game"). Like I said, it doesn't work as an idea generator.

    I guess in general it's probably useful if you're in a situation where you need to make sure your writing is very very clear. If ChatGPT can correctly summarize what you wrote, it's probably safe for people who are distracted or bad at reading or whatever.

  • Interview with Esolang Academic 2024
  • This is great, love me some esolangs.

    Weird the subtitles insist on calling brainfuck brainfog though.

  • Highly realistic talking head video generation
  • Hey this is really cool.

    I'm sure people will use it to make politicians say misleading things or whatever.

    But I'm excited about people being able to have animated advisor portraits in indie games.

  • Factory gamers, which kind of input/output system is better: belts that go right into buildings, or inserters/arms?
  • Nice ideas! Some already on my list, so we're clearly on the same page.

    Those last two combine in a cool way. If you have a machine that gives better outputs and requires faster inputs the longer it runs, then wiring all of its inputs to production boosters is good, but also hard because this sort of thing will encourage a very cramped design already.

  • Factory gamers, which kind of input/output system is better: belts that go right into buildings, or inserters/arms?
  • Since this is happening inside a multiplayer game, where other players might not be doing automation gameplay, I want to be mindful of how much server horsepower an automation player uses. So giant Factorio-style megafactories aren't a good fit (It'll still be possible as a self-directed challenge, especially if you're running a single player server, but it'll need a hefty computer since I doubt I'll optimize it as well as Factorio.)

    Which means I can't do Factorio's thing where an X requires 10 Y requires 10 Z and the massive scale causes problems you need to work through, so I need to add complexity elsewhere to make factory play still challenging. Machines that require inputs from multiple different transport mechanisms are one way to do that. Another might be time-sensitive parts.

    I'm up for suggestions on more ways to make particular machines a nuisance to work with.

  • Factory gamers, which kind of input/output system is better: belts that go right into buildings, or inserters/arms?
  • I'm working on a 3D voxel game, where I plan to have automation mechanics eventually, so this has been on my mind.

    In the current (very possibly changing) plan, the first automation tier will be conveyors that go straight into buildings, but later materials will be too delicate for conveyors and need to use pneumatic pipes, and the final tier will include materials that must be handled with Opus Magnum style swinging arms (which are also inserters).

    I like changing the transport system is the best way to do progression in one of these games, because it's directly tied to the map, and thus has the most options for subtlety and cascading changes. And having multiple separate systems feeding into the same process is of course good for adding complexity.

  • Dirt_Owl wtf did you do?!
  • Oh, my PFP is just whatever came out of Dall-e when I told it to make me a screaming owl.

    I meant whenever I actually release a game and need an actual studio logo, the barred owl was the most obnoxiously loud owl I could find, so that's what I was planning to use

  • Dirt_Owl wtf did you do?!
  • Oh no! I decided to use the barred owl as my mascot.

  • AAAAAAAAAAARGH
  • Amazing

    whoops late response lol

  • What's an old game innovation/novelty that you enjoyed that has mostly or entirely fallen out of use?
  • The wiimote's accelerometer-based motion controls weren't very good, but its IR camera pointer controls were fantastic. It's a shame motion controls became synonymous with the former instead of the latter.

  • What's an old game innovation/novelty that you enjoyed that has mostly or entirely fallen out of use?
  • If you like cheesy live-acted cutscenes, I recommend Roundabout. Or at least watching its trailer. Or if you don't have time to actually play games, there was an SGDQ run where they did a speedrun but left the cutscenes on, but I think they end up skipping some due to tricks.

  • What's an old game innovation/novelty that you enjoyed that has mostly or entirely fallen out of use?
  • Level builders/editors

    They're a lot harder to make with modern / 3D games.

    But they also seem to boost a game's long-term audience by a lot, so it's weird they're not more common.

    ...I should make something that needs a level editor instead of always doing procedural stuff.

  • What's an old game innovation/novelty that you enjoyed that has mostly or entirely fallen out of use?
  • You could still squeeze a Wario Ware microgame into one of them.

    I think it would be hard to fit a minigame into a loading screen without making the loading screen longer due to loading the minigame, though. Like it'd be easy enough if you were coding your loading system from scratch, but modern games are mostly built using big pre-existing engines, which are full of their own assumptions about how loading works.

  • What's an old game innovation/novelty that you enjoyed that has mostly or entirely fallen out of use?
  • Have you seen Backpack Battles? It's an autobattler that's 90% inventory tetris.

    I've played way too much of it.

  • gamedev @hexbear.net NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net
    I'm learning 3D modeling and making monsters

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    Are there any video games that require using buttons to move and not just moving some directional pad?
  • One of my permanent backlog game ideas is a game titled Horse Horse Horse Horse Horse where you're a horse and you press asdf asdf asdf asdf to run right, and fdsa fdsa fdsa fdsa to run left.

  • The last level of Mario Wonder is way too hard
  • This is the level you unlock by 100%ing the game (all seeds, 10-coins, and flagpole tops)

  • The last level of Mario Wonder is way too hard
  • I don't know about the larger trends, but Mario games have always had a lot of them. You fall down a pit and you're dead.

    Also it's pretty typical for modern Mario games to have a nice normal difficulty curve, and then if you 100% it you get a final challenge that's just completely outside the bounds of the rest of the game's difficulty. This one was just even nastier than the last several incarnations. I'm not sure what the thinking behind these is, unless it really is "yeah we know you're playing Kaizo hacks."

  • The last level of Mario Wonder is way too hard
  • I forgot about the rotating fire bars because it wasn't in the final checkpoint, and I did each checkpoint on a different session.

  • The last level of Mario Wonder is way too hard

    I went through 37 levels to beat it, but that doesn't even tell the whole story, since I got 1-ups like half the time.

    Fun game though

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    gamedev @hexbear.net NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net
    Seven minutes of explaining weird problems trying to make a game in 4D

    I was impressed

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    gamedev @hexbear.net NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net
    Game progress - inventory, numbers that go up
    mastodon.gamedev.place Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)

    Attached: 1 image This week I added an inventory and made it so it actually keeps track of how many items you have. That means there are now numbers that go up. Very video game. #screenshotsaturday #godotengine #voxel #gamedev #indiedev

    Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)

    There is something satisfying about a number going up. I'm not immune to it.

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    gamedev @hexbear.net NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net
    Back from vacation; more game updates
    mastodon.gamedev.place Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)

    Attached: 1 image This week I finally added a toolbar, so I can place more than one kind of block in a session. Here's me finishing a house. #screenshotsaturday #gamedev #indiedev #godotengine

    Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)
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    gamedev @hexbear.net NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net
    At least three of you told me to keep posting progress on my game
    mastodon.gamedev.place Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)

    Attached: 1 image This week I worked on fancy fog and added a day/night cycle. The days won't be 15 seconds long in the final game, that's just for this video. #screenshotsaturday #gamedev #godotengine

    Noisy Owl (@noisyowl@mastodon.gamedev.place)
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    Facebook's highly ill-advised AI-generated sticker system

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    > found out that facebook messenger has ai generated stickers now and I don't think anyone involved has thought anything through

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    I assume from the third one that this poster was one of you.

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    NoisyOwl NoisyOwl [he/him] @hexbear.net

    I make indie games.

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