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I give up, reddit wins
  • Tbh I wouldnt exactly trust reddit to show an actual sample size of what any particular group thinks in general because theyre all fringe weirdos, but especially not gen z. Your average gen z person is on twitter or tiktok, not reddit.

  • "Let one hundred local socialist parties bloom"
  • Good post OP. I just made a comment to my local liberal-y friends about joining some leftist organizations out there and they immediately started planning looking around and joining some. It's way easier than you might think people.

  • Now is the perfect opportunity for the left. Remind people that the Democrats won't protect them from people like Trump. Organise and strengthen your community. Give people hope.
  • I definitely get your concern, but while the libs are lashing out like that I don't think you should take it that seriously. The people who can be worked with and recruited aren't the ones talking right now, so its important we can find them and work with them before the right does.

  • Now is the perfect opportunity for the left. Remind people that the Democrats won't protect them from people like Trump. Organise and strengthen your community. Give people hope.
  • The realization that theres a non insignificant amount of Americans who hate the status quo but didn't vote for Trump is actually a good wake up call. Its going to be an absolute uphill battle, but leftism actually has a chance of having an actual movement in America.

    Im gonna see if theres any orgs I can join near me, and I hope that everyone else can too.

  • So why did they win?
  • I think your comment about leftism slowly rebuilding in the west is a good one. I've seen a lot of people dismayed about how there was literally 0 leftism or even hints at appealing to leftists during this election, but ultimately that's because a real left wing movement can't come from the government, it has to start at ground level.

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  • TBH I'm more willing to blame her loss on just having a dogshit campaign. I dunno what she was cooking when she was bragging about being stronger against immigration than Trump and not even being willing to support an arms embargo towards Israel, but it definitely wasn't anything good.

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  • It kinda sucks that despite it being extremely obvious why Kamala lost, Democrats will learn nothing from this and push even harder right. I can't see a world where they ever admit that they went wrong.

  • wait what's gonna happen if this trump guy wins again
  • Tbh at this point I'm not to worried about it, at least in terms of legal stuff. Getting gender affirming care is probably going to become a bitch, and its not like hes going to oppose any anti-lgbt laws stateside (not like Kamala would either, lets be real), but I think Trump only cares about being against transgender people as far as getting elected. Once he's in office he's probably going to have other things to focus on.

    I'm a little more concerned about Vance and the alt-right groups that'll be emboldened by this though. Kinda hard to tell what'll happen with them at this point, and I do feel worried about an influx of hate crimes being possible.

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  • Kamala ran a picture perfect campaign besides maybe foreign policy, anti-incumbency is a hell of a drug I guess.

    Somehow I keep getting surprised at how out of touch with reality Libs are. In what world was Kamala's campaign even close to being good.

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  • My condolences. In hindsight it was dumb of me to be worried in the first place, but its hard to feel that way when everyone else around me is panicky. Guess it'll just be another 4 years of Trump saying something outrageous, Dems getting up in arms (but not fundamentally doing anything about it), and things getting slowly worse with nobody in power actually trying to stop it.

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  • Yeah that adds up :/ Sucks, but my liberal transgender friends have been panicking about us all ending up in concentration camps, which has felt pretty unrealistic to me but fuck if I know. Maybe dems will realize by 2028 that continuing to go to the right doesn't work and we'll get another pro-lgbt candidate but, doesn't seem likely.

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  • Before I get doom and gloom about Trump season 2, do you all think that Trump would actually do any of the insane anti-lgbt stuff he's talked about? Like I don't exactly expect it to be good for us, but at the same time it feels like something he drummed up to get support and isn't something that can be practically enacted or enforced.

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