Maybe an injection or pill?
Maybe an injection or pill?
Maybe an injection or pill?
Have a kid...
Yeah that didn’t work for me. Just made it harder on my “fall asleep on the couch from 12am until 3am then wake up and goto bed until work at 5:30am” routine.
Can I just rent one for a bit?
Heck, I’ll pay you to come play with them so I can poop without them wanting to climb all over me.
It helps to not dread tomorrow
That definitely sounds like it requires a surgery.
Yup, I have a job I enjoy, and it turns out I don't need an alarm to get up to go to it.
Explain!
/s
Yeah just fake it till you make it, set up alarm, go to bed at the right time.
Eventually it will be automatic you want it or not. 🙄
How it works for me:
Go to bed at 10PM.
Fail to fall asleep until 1AM.
Wake up at 4AM because now I have to.
This is the correct answer.
Historical I have always had trouble getting to sleep, and since becoming a parent I experience waves of easy and difficult nights. This has been the case for four years now. For a while here I was falling asleep in minutes every night and things were pretty good. But the past few weeks have been awful. I'll go to bed at 9:30 feeling ready to die, but most nights the last time I remember seeing on my clock was ~2am, and I'm getting up at either 4 or 6 for work.
I don't know what to do, but I'm still ready to die.
I stopped drinking, got a dog, and changed my gender. Now I'm up at 7am every day.
So it does require a surgery.
This is a common myth that perpetuates anti-trans gender talking points.
The majority of transgender people get zero surgeries.
Of all those, I bet getting the dog was the biggest factor, lol. They need you when they need you. The threat of waking up to a puddle of pee is a motivator.
Oh, oh, I know this one! Have a baby. Done.
Or a job that requires you to get up in the middle of the night. You'll be in bed long before 10 pm, even on the weekends.
I know from my sis that having a baby messes your sleeping patterns up.
Yup, but since they wake up like every couple hours, one of those is going to align with when you need to get ready for work.
Currently up while my baby sleeps next to me. Some of us put the baby to bed and then lie in a dark silent room for two hours then wake up at 4am to feed the baby and are up 2 more hours.
Have you been tested for sleep apnea?
Have almost a decade on ya and waiting for this to happen. I'm happy when I fall asleep at midnight.
Same for me. Having a kid just cemented it completely, so now I never have that one day every leap year where I sleep long.
I became a real party pooper on New Years which sort of sucks though…
I started leaning into my abnormal circadian rhythm and my mental and physical health was boosted almost instantly
Daypeople society sucks for Night Owls.
It sounds fake, but it might genuinely be your genes. Scientifically the natural tendency to sleep at specific time is called your chronotype and it's semi-genetic (it also changes with age and possibly few other factors). Not only that, it also affects your alertness: morning people usually have the highest alertness just after waking up and it gradually declines throughout the day, while evening people usually wake up with very low mental functions, but then their alertness slowly rises and hits its' peak around 5-6PM.
So if you ever wondered how it's possible that you always wake up feeling like shit, while others talk about how they're so full of energy in the morning. That's how. They're literally built different.
Could you point me in the direction of some source/further reading? I would love to have something substantive to share next time I get shamed for my lifelong struggle to become a morning person.
I wonder if it's only the jeans, or if environmental factors also play a significant role and how big that role is relative to the role of genetics.
Get a job that requires it
My wife got a job where it is required and she still struggles to sleep early enough.
Yeah, its still often a struggle for me to, but I just woke up at 8am today naturally on a weekend, so its slowly changing me over
Hence all the jokes about needing coffee to function... oh, those aren't jokes? People do sometimes literally need stimulants to function?
I know issue I have is going to bed early. If I can wake up early and sleep early, it fixes the cycle. Naps mess up everything
it requires doing it over and over again and accepting that it's gonna make you feel kinda shitty. I'm at my best by 11am. When I used to work overnight til 5am, 11am was when I woke up. When I worked bars 5-close, 11am. Now that I work a 9-5, I'm physically there at 9, but I'm useless til 11am. When I fall asleep has changed as my schedule did, for each of those schedules I was in bed at 6am, 4am and midnight respectively. But when the machinery came online has never changed: 11am.
I had an evening job from 2014 to 2016, so my lunch would be at about 22:00, and I still get hungry around that time as if my body's expecting a meal.
How to become a morning person according to this thread:
I've tried all of those suggestions, they worked but also didn't. Now my sleep schedule is so borked.
Eh, everyone's a little different, and for some it may well be impossible.
Real answer is conditioning, with most of the suggestions being means to get that rolling. The unwritten part is while you're conditioning youself, you're probably gonna be miserable for a while, unless you're one of us folks with a genetic legacy of farmers and soldiers.
I know this is WhitePeopleTwitter, and not a direct ask; but the easiest way is to tackle it from the wake-up time, rather than forcing yourself to try and fall asleep at 10pm.
Pick a day with few responsibilities, (e.g. Saturday ) that way you won’t be too negatively impacted if you don’t get enough sleep. Set MULTIPLE alarms to 6am to force you out of bed; proceed with your day as normal, minimise screen time and bright lights after 9pm, and go to bed at 10pm.
Make sure you keep waking up at 6 am and don’t nap/go back to sleep; brute force your body to adapt. It should work as quickly as in 72hrs.
This is the way! You gotta stick to it on the weekends. No exceptions.
Personally, I sleep in till 9 in the weekends. Wake up a mess early Monday. Mondays suck but it's still worth it gor me.
Then i'm tired and less likely to power through interupting the interesting thing i'm doing at evening.
Just move 3 time zones west
The only reasonable answer
Honestly, if you're working remotely, finding a job that has a better fitting schedule, is indeed a good idea. Moving there, though, might not work out as your body might drag you to the same sleeping patterns you had before.
For some it occurs naturally in their midlife.
Anyone actually reading this and having similar issue, it can get expensive but try talking with a doc to try and figure it out. Before my habits got better, i tried diet/exercise, diagnosed with sleep apnea (didn't feel better rested, but def worse if I don't use cpap), and finally got way easier to manage when I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed. Ymmv but thought I'd share my experience.
CPAP changed my life. Suffering from depression is a million times worse when you don't get sleep
Step 1, wake up at 6. Step 2, go to bed at 10. Step 3, repeat.
Have you tried going to sleep at 10 and waking up at 6? It sounds obvious, but you'd be amazed at how many people never do the obvious thing. Like forgetting to plug in a computer and wondering why it doesn't come on when the power button is pressed.
Yes. Spent a month in a ward with a fixed regiment. Never got used to it, and my sleep cycles were all over the place. By the end of the month I was starving because I was missing so many meals, and it was overall torturous.
If you have the means, you might want to consider seeing a sleep specialist and having a sleep study done.
There's a lot of things that can cause irregular sleep cycles like that and a sleep specialist can see what your brain is doing while you're asleep. That helps you and your doctor figure out a treatment plan depending on what they see on the results.
I showed my wife and she immediately told me 10 is late and 6 is sleeping in!! She's built different.
Last time I tried to go to bed at 10, I woke up... at 10.
I don't understand everyone's problem with getting this sleep schedule. I, for one, clock exactly this. I go to bed at 10 AM and wake at 6 PM; just like it says!
Some of it is genetic but mostly it's conditioning, like in the Military.
EDIT: To clarify, veterans often (but not always) wake up before dawn consistently for decades after their service. I don't really recommend it as an option, but it's proof of concept.
Kids, kid's sports and work. Or conditioning, like you said
Yeah, I got the conditioning during college. Work 32 hours a week while taking 15 credits, you won't have time for sleep. Work 7:30am-4pm MWF, go right to campus for some homework and dinner before class 6pm-9pm. Then go home and do homework/sleep. Tu/Tr have class from 10am-2pm and work 3pm-7pm and then work on homework, housework, gym. You won't have the energy to stay up late.
Consistency and parenthood.
8 hour day doing physical labor will do it.
Yes!
I take a gummy, play an album in the background. Sleep like a baby.
What kind of gummy?
Flintstone
Red
Chewable
Ohh, Im supposed to take a gummy, not a bear, ok, my bad.
Wake up eat. Gym. Eat. Go to work. Coffee. You'll get through the day but then crash around bedtime.
Swore gym before work would never work for me (tried it in uni also). But I was going to quit anyway and when I did it realised it worked for me.
You also need to change your drinking pattern to day drinking.
... what's a drinking pattern??? :|
Don't start drinking at 8pm start drinking at 8am. That way you can be in bed by 8pm and your sleep pattern is all good.
When you spilled enough to see a self portrait you've had enough.
Lobotomy for sure.
As others have said, it's simply a matter of discipline and getting used to it. But that doesn't necessarily mean you'll become a morning person. How you wake up and when you wake up are two different things. I'm a morning person in that I wake up easily, but I go to sleep at 1 and wake up at 9.
OK, so what you want to do is stay awake for atleast 20 hours, sleep for like 5 hours then wake up, do this for a while then pick a time to go to bed, now you gotta drink some sleepy time tea, set a few alarms and fall asleep, you should sleep for about 8 hours, and wake up refreshed, now repeat this every night until you don't need the tea.
You gotta overload your circadian rhythm to reset it.
Every time I try this, I usually just end up passing out at like 4pm and then just crashing until noon the next day. It never works. Making up for sleep debt, is what I like to call it.
The only thing that helps is getting a job that requires me to wake up at 1am, but even then my body still doesn't want to get up before 12pm on the weekends.
There is a way to do it, but you need a lighter, an old clear lightglobe and a bag of meth.
For a real medical answer, I was, at one point, put on GHB and a Stimulant under the theory that an issue that took 9 years to diagnose (epilepsy, did not present typically). Since I had issues with cataplexy, which is only rarely seen with other issues, this made sense. Turns out it can be a side effect of some psych meds, as I'm also bipolar.
GHB knocks you out in moments, and you'll wake up 4 hours later. Time for the second dose. 4 more hours. Like fucking clockwork. It was the only time in my life I was consistently on time anywhere I've ever worked. Wasted in a Walmart auto shop.
Then stimulants (amphetamine analogue) were supposed to keep a narcoleptic awake during the day.
I just use an NFC tag.
Now I can't turn off my alarm unless I get up, leave my bedroom, and go to my living room to scan the NFC tag on my wall.
I've tried both making puzzles for myself (like locking alarm off in a PC case) and math challenges. Both of those failed and were only inducing somnambulism in me.
Get a herding dog... seriously mine keeps me on this sleep schedule. She tells me when to go to bed and is my alarm clock in the morning.
Enlarge your prostate.
Mind giving me a hand with that?
Time will do it for you
It helps to establish a routine for going to bed. For example, set a nightly reminder on your phone 15-30 minutes before bedtime that it's time to wind things down. Don't have anything caffeinated after 5 pm or so.
Skip one night of sleep, go to bed at your target hour, pref an hour or two before.
wake up at 4 - 6 am
Go to bed at 9, fall asleep at 10
For me it was lockdown went to bed early after work out of sheer bordem. Still trying to break out of that routine.
Of course it doesn't help when my dog loves that routine and gets pissed off if not in bed by 8
Requires rote repetition
Adjust the times at which you eat, and make sure those times are consistent. Sleeping habits will follow way more easily if you adjust eating times along with them.
I go through this at the beginning of every school year. All it really takes is about two weeks of being forced to wake up at 6am.
It's a suppository.
Marry a teacher.
Just grow older. At 45 you'll start turning into one automatically
I am in my 60s now. I figure this will start to kick in any day now.
What worked for me: marry one of those people
I did marry one. A decade later, nothing has changed (not for lack of trying). :(
Absolutely fucking not.
Cocaine might do it?
Discipline
Work out every day
The key is to master dissociation.
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A good alarm clock might work.
Work on a mine site and get used to waking up at 4:30 for a 5:30 start to the work day. Then sleep in.
Or in my case, wake up with a blinding migraine every day
Stop caffeine consumption
Benzos. Changed my lîīff4
Fir the absolute wkrst..
But u sleep now!
A schedule
For some people life will take a fat steaming shit on your schedule, I wish it was that simple.
an alarm clock and some self control
Oh gee thanks why didn't I think of that