Fitness @lemmy.world Aussiemandeus @aussie.zone 8 mo. ago

Recovery sleep aids.

I used to take a sleep Recovery product (i cant remember what it was) it was banned in Australia, but it made me have the best sleeps of my life.

Does anyone have anything they could suggest?

Edit,

The banned suppliment was fadeout by redcon1

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I use a first gen antihistamine (diphenhydramine) as a sleep aid when I need one. One 25mg tablet is typically plenty. Sometimes I’ll even take half. Definitely don’t take two unless you don’t want or need to wake up at any particular time the next day. It usually makes me feel groggy the whole next day if I do so I mostly try to reserve it for extreme situations like combating jet lag from a long-haul flight.

ETA: Just noticed what sub I was in so not really sure this is appropriate advice. Leaving it up anyway just in case 😅
- I personally try to steer clear of diphenhydramine for anything other than one off purposes just due to the research coming out regarding anticholinergics and possible cognitive decline. It sounds like you’re taking it relatively infrequently, so I’d guess that’s ok. Just linking here for others for visibility as it seems like perhaps not the best long term solution.
  
  https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-drugs-like-benadryl-linked-increased-dementia-risk-201501287667
  
  It’s very occasional use for me. I had friends (more like friends of friends) that were deep into recreational Benadryl abuse back in the 90s.
  
  From my understanding it’s a low quality high…
  
  …but they were low quality people.
  
  I didn’t read the whole study, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve completely forgotten who they are now and they’d only be in their 40s.
- Don't do this! You will cause permanent damage later in life.
Magnesium supplement is also good for sleep
why was it banned?
- I found the supplement
  
  It was fadeout and was banned for containing 4-amino-3-phenylbutanoic acid.
Magnesium and l-theanine seem to help me get to sleep. I use low dose maletonin also, but only as needed, as I seem to build a tolerance to it (low dose = like .75mg, anything higher makes me feel super groggy in the morning).
I don't have a supplement to recommend but I think a cold shower after a heavy sesh does wonders.

I'm roasting in bed after legs or back + deadlift otherwise.

Then again, I also train quite late in a day so it's probably more of a me problem.
- Yeah i have to have have a cold shower every time and then another an hour or so later, i just don't stop sweating.
  
  Doesn't help i live in a hot humid p place
  
  I was about to moan about how shitty and humid England is in the summer but I don't think it really stacks up 😅
  
  Still enough to keep me up at night though. Like you, I'll have a couple cold quick rinses after training.
Not sure if you already take creatine but it helps my recovery out quite a bit. It won't help much in terms of sleep though, might try magnesium for that.
- Yeah creatine is a must for anyone in my opinion,
  
  My dr said to stay away from magnesium because of my blood pressure unfortunately
Chamomile tea?
- Yeah it's not nearly the same unfortunately.
  
  I have been having some similar sleep aid teas, they just don't hit as hard
  
  Can you double up the strength of the tea? 2-3 tea bags of chamomile? Non-sleep deep relaxation from huberman lab may help?

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