World News @lemmy.world Lee Duna @lemmy.nz 7 mo. ago

Taliban execute two men by gunfire in packed Afghanistan stadium

www.independent.co.uk Taliban execute two men by gunfire in packed Afghanistan stadium

Thousands of people watch execution in broad daylight after Taliban-led Supreme Court convicts the two men for murder

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Only a couple of posts above Trump's ally Kirk said children should see executions lmao. These two charmfully synchronized.
- They're two sides of the same coin. Y'all Qaeda living up to its name once more.
- Y’All-Qaeda
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That article is referencing some 1999 sources and hoping nobody clicks them.

Not seeing any evidence of the claim. The video is irrelevant too. Anyone here got something more credible?
- The link to an article from 1999 refers to an entirely different case where a woman was executed during the previous rule of Afganistan by the Taliban. It isnt being used as evidence for this event.
  
  I'm not sure why you dismiss the Independent but here's the AP reporting the same: https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-public-execution-stadium-73a175aef085f26bd6b574465be34c6f
  
  I have severely started doubting western media's claims lately so whenever I read an article making bold claims I like clicking on their sources.
  
  The fact that the video from Independent is just irrelevant B roll, and several of the claims they make are backed by irrelevant 25 year old articles does not inspire confidence.
  
  If there is evidence or sourcing for those claims it should not be difficult to provide a link to a ruling to back it up.
  
  The allegations sound plausible, but I expect a newspaper to provide real sources in their links. I'm not supposed to have to Google to fact check everything they say.
I am not here to debate whether public executions are right or wrong but

“Carrying out executions in public adds to the inherent cruelty of the death penalty and can only have a dehumanising effect on the victim and a brutalising effect on those who witness the executions,”

If brutalizing here means people are gonna be shit scared after watching this when even thinking about killing someone, then this is a very bad argument
- It does not reduce murder or crime in general - but it DOES devalue human life
  
  At least they retained the USamerican values after kicking them out
  
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- No. What happens is the spectators get severely desensitized to violence. Especially if the spectators are young malleable teenagers. And suddenly sawing someone's head off in front of a live broadcast becomes just another day on the job.
  
  Huh? Do you think this way there will be an execution everyday?
  
  People won’t get violent, that’s like saying people will get violent by seeing a school shooting, instead they will get shit scared it’s not like a person will get hanged everyday, atmost it might be something like every 5-6 years, less if there can be some sort of negotiation with the victims family, and if people learn their lesson and stop their murders, you might only see one in your lifetime, if anything we have been desensitized to murder, to the point that we think it’s not such a big deal that people get out of jail in 6 months
  
  And ofc teenagers should be kept out
- The brutalizing effect is the opposite: by seeing this kind of violence, people are more likely to normalize it and engage in violence themselves. That's the hypothesis, anyway.
  
  Huh? After seeing this people will want to kill people? I am talking extra-judicial killing here
- never mind the fact that the taliban also does this for sexual assault victims and gay people not just murderers.....
You know something, you need to rethink western criminal justice. Think about this, every time someone is locked up for a year, it's costing you the tax payer 40k plus. In the states, you still do executions. There's no moral superiority in that regard. Publicly punishing people does the following... Say a thief/robber etc has a hand chopped, how much does that cost? Not much. It also sends a clear message. That's why you can drop your wallet in Dubai and no one will touch it. You have millions of people locked up in the states...there's no morality in wasting so much in resources that could be better used to end homelessness, poverty etc on this. All you're doing is enriching some corporations.
- "look at all the benefits you get from being in a fascist state that doesn't have laws respecting rights to a fair trial and sufficient burden of proof!"
  
  Like there's a reason we only see the taliban + authoritarian regimes do this, lmao.
- Troll's gonna troll
- issuing correction on previous tweet you don't understand any circumstances gotta hand it to the taliban
Public execution would solve a lot of problems.
- What problems would it solve?
  
  Violent authoritarians fantasise about murdering the other. Sick bastards.
  
  like people pretending their government doesn't execute people because they don't see it.
  
  What to do on Saturday night when you don't feel like going to a bar.
  
  Genocide
  
  People having to come to terms with the policies they support.
  
  If it's "too bad" for the public to see, then maybe it's "too bad" to be doing at all.
  
  I'm pro-death penalty, btw.
  
  It depends, I don’t know the exact circumstances, if it was some sort of internal thing where something might have gone wrong, then this is wrong, especially if their own scholars said so, this sort of crime should be hidden from the court itself imho, or atleast not a straight up death penalty, if they were a public school shooter who had killed kids, the issue becomes different
  
  Give people a tangible sense of what will happen to them if they murder others.

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