Oregon’s Drug Decriminalization Aimed to Make Cops a Gateway to Rehab, Not Jail. State Leaders Failed to Make It Work.

Saved you a click: is because they started with cops. 🖕🏽
- I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

Oregon gov: "best I can do is no jail, no rehab"

It's a fucking mess. Fentanyl costs less than a dollar. There's open street drug markets. It's not uncommon seeing people shooting up or smoking out of tinfoil. Tents are randomly everywhere with people doing drugs.
Portland used to be vibrant and clean. It's pretty much a toilet for the unhoused. Cleanup crews comb the early streets. I routinely see a guy spraying disinfectant on store fronts because people are peeing and shitting in doorways. I would guess that half of the businesses have left. Lots of stores are boarded up.
We have had recorded crime the last couple of years. Crime is finally starting to go down, but not as fast as similar cities.
I don't like addicts going to prison, but expecting them to just seek out treatment after getting a $100 ticket is dumb. When incentive is there?
The process failed because it was stupid to begin with. It should have required treatment and training was ready before decriminalizing.

I don't understand how decriminalizing hard drugs is supposed to help. Handing out a fine with a hotline number is laughable. Most addicts aren't going to seek out help on their own. Didn't Maine have a law that forced certain users to go through rehab/therapy? They established a bunch of clinics that constantly reached out to their patients and made sure they were getting treatment. But I'm pretty sure it didn't start with decriminalization.
- it's because treating the problem of drugs like a personal moral failing offers nothing but punishment, without addressing the root cause of people with addiction. Instead of putting people in prison for drugs, (in which they still have access to drugs) we would rather help them address the underlying cause of hardship that causes them to want to "check out" so badly. People in poverty, with untreated illness, little to no support system, without access to a safe place to live, are going to want to check out via drug use. Us punishing them isn't going to do anything but give them another reason to shoot up.
  work programs, housing programs, food programs, and healthcare is what they truly need to stop. Not us spending the same amount of money it would take to help them, but on the prison industrial complex.
  
  Yeah, I agree putting people in prison won't solve addiction but that's why I mentioned what I somewhat remember Maine doing. It's about having a path towards rehabilitation (not in prison). Essentially you temporarily book offenders, then they get a court mandated ruling to go to these clinics to get better while they have consistent checkups. This way they get to stay out of prison while receiving treatment. I guess what I'm saying is you need the law to allow temporary detainment and to enable court rulings of certain treatments that otherwise many offenders would not receive otherwise. The problem I see isn't with these situations it's that oftentimes legislators are too lazy to implement laws that work to implement steps after being detained/fined. It's lazy to put people in jail and also to simply decriminalize substances. Because when substances are decriminalized you have no legal leg to stand on when you need to force treatment and to your point being sent to prison doesn't help either.
  
  This sounds nice, but addicts don't just stop being addicts. Losing a home may have resulted in someone getting addicted to heroin, but giving them a home won't stop the addiction. Prison isn't the place to treat addiction either though.
  You have to address the addiction first though.
- It helps because if they know they aren't going to be imprisoned for it, they're more likely to seek help in situations that involve drugs. Getting people to quit drugs requires trust and social outreach. Decriminalization is about making sure that drug users aren't further stigmatized and abused, and thus more able to accept support.
  
  I don't think that this should be a legalization issue. To your point, prison is not the solution. I think its about what you do after a user is detained temporarily. Instead of prison people need to be sent to rehab centers.
  You need a legal backing to get these people help. Decriminalization means there's no legal backing to provide services to these people, oftentimes they don't want help. Like the article mentioned, no one ever bothers calling the helpline. Why would they? They either don't want to or cant. With a court order they can be taken care of, usually through tax payer money. Initially this may cost a decent amount of money but could fix the problem over time.
- No need to be passive aggressive. I think a lot of people care. If you've read my other post you'd notice I said I agree with decriminalization but believe Oregon didn't implement the law in a meaningful way. I don't know if you've lived in an area where there are homeless encampments before but drug use is often a big issue there. LA, Portland, San Francisco and Seattle, all places I've lived in have this issue. So yes, for you this may be a non issue for you but for communities that live with this problem it is a legitimate issue. What do you mean when youre advocating for full legalization? We might not even be talking about the same thing. I don't care about weed, all for legalization for that. Under no circumstances should drugs like heroin or meth be legalized. Are you saying you don't care about people who are at the highest risk for drug abuse and need the most help? That's ideally the place where rehabilitation will help the most.
  Feel free to look at the statistics for drug use and homelessness here. https://americanaddictioncenters.org/rehab-guide/homeless
- There are plenty of addicts that seek out help without legal compulsion. I work in a treatment center in Portland and we have way more people seeking help than we can accommodate. Housing is the biggest problem, often people wouldn't need a residential treatment bed if they had adequate housing.
  
  I can get behind that. But also from the article it says that these people often don't seek out help either. To your point, housing is another part of the problem that these lawmakers failed to address.