Yeah this is the is the biggest reason I dislike Linux forums in a broad sense. Snobby elitist pricks.
Don’t even get me started on arch Linux forums… my favorite is when someone says is something like “this is super fucking simple you just follow this guide: [insert wiki link that is basically a scientific dissertation on the history of arch]
I asked for help on the Discord server of LinuxServer.io and they were literally talking shit about me to each other while I was in the chat because I didn't understand their utter garbage documentation for a Docker I was having trouble with, even with a CS degree.
Tech forums in any sense.
If you're tired of seeing the same questions, why are you here? You can just ignore them. But treating a newbie like an idiot for not knowing better just discourages people from getting into your thing and keeps you from meeting cool new people.
ESPECIALLY because a lot of these questions come from kids that literally haven't had the chance to learn better yet. Just kindly point them where they need to go. It takes just as much time as telling them off.
that being said.. what's a good website i can at least go to and learn some linux basics and progress to more advanced stuff? i'd at least want to check that out before i start bugging people..
i had the opportunity to take a class back in college but 18 yr old me couldn't handle a 7am class and know-it-alls in the back always interrupting the teacher and trying to show off in class..
Ok now type "touch /this"
And then hum the famous M C Hammer song.
Lmao fork bomb
There is certainly a lack of perspective and empathy between those who spend their time concentrated on computer maintenance and those others who must perform other important tasks in their lives.
Either that or you insult them for not knowing the answer already, tell them to google it (then why does this forum exist?) or get mad because they did know that their question had already been answered in a forum post in 2019.
Sometimes it's better to daunt them first with this piece.
Amen.
I realised, that sometimes it is more like a different experience level. And some people forget it could be possible the asking person is an absolute newbie.
And most people in forums are there because they want to help, but they want to help on this one asked case and won't teach the whole Linux universe, most people need years of experience for.
The good thing is, we can use AI for this nowadays, it won't go mad if you are missing an elemental "you really should know, how this works" kind of error.
Linux Support Communities are a trillion times more welcoming, kind and understanding of new people today than they were 10 and 20 years ago.
I still am scared to ask questions, but at least when I finally have no choice and resign myself to asking a question.. its generally answered kindly, and if its not answered directly I'm at least put in the right direction. And that helps me build my own knowledge base, and helps me solve future problems on my own.
Unlike when I did my first dip into linux a couple decades ago where you'd be called some creative combination of Windows/Microsoft and a sexual slur and told to go the fuck back to windows if you are too stupid to have been born without the complete comprehensive understanding of the terminal.
I hope the community continues to improve, and welcome newbies and their problems like it currently does, so we can all grow and thrive together.
Props to people are actually helping, it goes a long way and people do learn information differently. Sometimes telling someone just to read something doesn't click.
command -v lolis returning an error on my system???I wish I could help people like this but I get really frustrated when they don't understand something I say for the first time, or are generally bad with tech, and I don't know how to get over it
bash: command not found: lol
The fact that you need a qualifier speaks volumes.
Yeah, I stopped asking questions about any problems years ago because of the cli bros and god forbid you tried to help and didn't offer an "crowd approved" answer. It just wasn't worth the effort. I just switched to searching for an answer on my own. It makes me pretty bad at solving problems sometimes/often times when I do have an issue, but I still manage to muddle through well enough for my own personal amusement.
Thankfully, unless you choose to walk a path of sackcloth and ashes, these days distros are pretty fool proof and don't need much cli effort anymore. And the older I get, the less I want to bother with anything exotic with any distro I want to use. I just want something that works.
This moment when another meme stolen from Deltachat completely explodes
