How can it be so bad?

heroic games launcher is a foss epic and gog launcher, works very well and very fast for me on linux. it has a windows version, too.

Oh this is very cool. Thanks for pointing me in this direction
Can recommend. Have it on my steam deck and PC. Runs great.
I didn't know it had a Windows version. Thanks for the heads up 👍

It's long because you have to copy and paste your password from the manager (and click "remember me") every time.

- Honestly?
  Steam probably puts more into security or something and has more confidence in themselves, and the others don't and they know it and so they have half-assed approaches that put the burden on YOU to reduce their risk.

Billy, no!
- Billy gonna learn he ain't ever to old for a whoopin'.
Meet 'n' HUH???
The competitor to the monopoly.
Why does it matter?

Tested 5 clients on my PC 3 times each. Times were more or less consistent on each run, biggest variation seemed for Uplay.

Setup: You are already logged in, there are no pending updates, you terminate client after each run (did not see significant time difference between repeated runs and 1st run after you log in), your logged in Windows account has admin rights so time is not wasted entering password (EGS and Uplay require admin rights to launch), time stops once launcher is usable.

EGS - 8 - 10 seconds
Steam - 20 seconds
GOG - 11 seconds
Uplay - 20 - 24 seconds
Heroic - 5 seconds

System: Ryzen 2600 with Samsung 970 EVO (2400 MB/s R/W as per Samsung Magician benchmark)

Is there any chance you can add a test for Heroic launcher as well? I advocate for using it over EGS, and I'd like to know how it stacks up.
- Is heroic only on Linux? I've never looked into installing it on Windows. It's a fantastic front end for the EGS/GOG on my Linux machines though.
- Takes 5 seconds. I was signed in to my EGS account.
- Would be fun to investigate why there is such a huge delay and what is causing it.
Really exposing the Valve fanboyism in the room. Steam genuinely takes quite a long time to start. People pretend it's quick because they leave it running, while cold booting Epic/alternatives and complaining.

I find the video from LTT kinda hilarious with the 96 core threadripper. Breaking records in cinebench but Cities Skylines 2 still runs like shit (in a 1mio pop city).

Because chances are the 7800X3D will be faster due to the cache.
Real-world applications often can only be parallelized so and so much, before you start hitting diminishing returns for many reasons. A lot of it is about the actual technical design as much as it is the technical execution (you can't parallelize two operations if one depends on the result of the other).
- Also cache optimization has been a huge trend in games programming in recent years
- I’m not sure the 7800X3D would even run a mil pop city. They were using 64 of the 96 cores running Skylines 2.

The Epic Games store is so fucking behind I actually can't understand it. Is there a single intern they rotate between semesters to build their client? It feels like yesterday they actually introduced a favoriting system to the library.

Wow Ubisoft game launcher opens in... Never? Wtf I paid money for this game and then I need to buy it again because they didn't actually give me the account and now the launcher is just dead and I can't even open it.

Fuck that. I bought one of the assassins creed games legitimately, then had it refuse to launch after a few weeks because they updated their launcher and borked it. I then pirated that same game to bypass the launcher issue and pirated every other ubisoft game since then.
If I have to pirate games to get around a deliberate flaw you worked into your program, I'm not paying for that game.
- Yeah I paid $30 for rainbow 6 siege I expect to be able to play it for more than 2 weeks. Like honestly it would be so much cheaper and easier to just use the steam launcher, since the game is already sold there, but no they have to be special.

I hate that. I have to look up my password every single time.
- Change your password to 'Skirt', then you'll love looking up your password.

use legendary

Electron + hell lot of JavaScript.

Well, now opens to a black screen in two minutes.

Might take a restart if you want some content in it.

I decided about 10 years ago that I just can't afford to keep updating my computer every couple of years just so I can play new titles. So now I just play old titles. And if you play old enough titles, you don't even have to go to a torrent site. You can go directly to the Internet Archive.

I keep rediscovering games I loved when I was younger. I've been playing Skyroads lately. I still love the music. You know how long it takes to load Skyroads on a computer from 2015? I have no idea either because it loads faster than I can measure time.

This has been your lecture from a crotchety old man.

Steam can't be run in minimal anymore, internal browser always eats a GB of RAM if you want to play a steam game.

Every other time I play Chivalry 2 I get an ad pop-up (or 2) mid duel. Maybe I should just re-buy on Steam...

Do people just bash epic to bash epic?

No one I talk to in real life has ever had one of these complaints about the launcher, it has its issues, but logging and startup isn’t them.

Epic takes 2 or more minutes for me to launch. Also when Im in my library, the page keeps refreshing randomly which shoots you back to the top. Very fun UI.
Really? It takes ages to open for me.

OS Bottleneck