Fake Joe Biden robocall tells New Hampshire Democrats not to vote on Tuesday
Fake Joe Biden robocall tells New Hampshire Democrats not to vote on Tuesday
The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president's voice, says, "Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again."
The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president's voice, says, "Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again."
A prominent New Hampshire Democrat plans to file a complaint with the state attorney general over an apparent robocall that appears to encourage supporters of President Joe Biden not to vote in Tuesday’s presidential primary.
The voice in the message is familiar — even presidential — as it’s an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of Biden’s voice.
“What a bunch of malarkey,” the voice message begins, echoing a favorite term Biden has uttered before.
I feel like these types of things will be especially bad this year. They won't be able to catch those responsible fast enough to prevent impact on the primaries, but they should be looking to tie these to the Republicans, and disqualify them from the actual election. We know it's them. It's always them.
This kind of thing should be treated as sedition because it's a direct attempt to undermine democratic processes. People should be scared shitless to even think about fucking with an election.
Or if it's a foreign country it should be considered an act of war just as much as an airstrike.
I don't know about sedition, but there are already a ton of more specific laws regarding election interference. Things like deliberately telling voters the wrong date, location, or eligibility are usually covered.
The only thing new here is the highly convincing impersonation, which may (or may not) be covered by other laws.
Of note, this will almost entirely be state laws rather than federal. With a few restrictions, each state runs its own elections by its own rules. Which means the (criminal) charge in New Hampshire is different from the one in South Carolina, the one in Texas, etc. Rarely do the feds get involved.
Or it’s Russia.
Yeah, that's what he said. The GOP.
Why is it so hard for phone companies to stop this? They explicitly allow unverified numbers to just call whoever on their networks. Is there really no way to stop number spoofing?
The same reason 5-6 model years of Hyundais are worth $0 now
It would be a minuscule cost to the company and they’re not legally required to implement it
Except due to the FCCs complete regulatory capture, the telecoms have now completely ruined voice calls as a form of communication to the extent that nobody even picks up calls on their personal lines anymore.
Remember when you could answer the phone and reasonably expect it would be relevant to your life?
Blocking spoofing isn't as simple as you might think. A LOT of legitimate phone traffic uses spoofing for VOIP calling.
In fact, back in 2005 the Madison River Telephone company (CenturyLink) tried blocking outgoing Vonage calls citing the CID spoofing, and the FCC stepped in and required that they allow it. It was the first real Net Neutrality ruling.
Oh, it’s not gonna be just robocall stuff. It’s gonna be a full-on inundation of deepfake videos, and they’re going to be pushing from one side way harder than the other.
Also, it allows you to say whatever you want and then claim it was a deep fake if someone calls you out. E.g. Roger Stone calling for the murder of Eric Stalwell and Jerry Nadler.
Or it's North Korea.
I don't think there are many things less democratic than disqualifying an entire party because of a few bad actors. The GOP could turn right around and do the same thing, "because Antifa". Dangerous, illiberal, antidemocratic, and union-ending.
A "few bad actors" including the entire party leadership.
You say they "could turn around" as if they haven't been actively doing this for ages. The treaty is being broken by conservatives, and they do it proudly and with gusto. How long are the rest of reasonable people supposed to stand back and let the country be destroyed by these monsters?
What you want is for the non-conservatives to surrender. You want all the reasonable, sane people that want a better society to roll over and give up and let the ones who desire slavery and genocide back into power. This isn't the left versus the right -- this is the rising tide of fascism against everyone else. You are leaping forward to chasten the victims of the violence for their fantasy about some turnabout while not being clear in your condemnation of the aggressors shows a lack of moral fortitude.
A few bad apples indeed, because they have spoiled the bunch.
It starts... This will be the year to decide if we can have functioning information systems and safe, democratic elections in the emerging age of easy AI manipulation.
It's a bad sign that there are no widely, commercially available free tools (from governments or otherwise) to help us confirm the validity of these things. We likely need something as ubiquitous as "googling" to stand against the incoming avalanche of truly fake information.
There will be elections across the globe this year to truly test humanity. I'm hopeful, but I fear we aren't close to ready. Think about what you would do if you suspected a political manipulation was AI generated today? That's one aspect, and you're on Lemmy so you're likely a bit more capable with technology generally (and you probably still don't know what to do). Now, think about your grandmother in Milwaukee... what will she do?
Yea, that's not happening.
Most of the incompetent morons in both the judicial sector and the lawmaking sector don't understand how a phone works or router functions let alone a grasp of the current eras technology and how it can be abused.
Serious public education with critical thinking at its core was the only way to combat this and it's way too late for that.
Sit back and enjoy the show, there's no going back now and we're all going to burn for the incredible amount of idiocy that has been allowed to fester.
Someone should do this for Trump - his dumbass supporters would probably fall for it.
There’s nothing you could make a fake Trump say that could be worse than what he has already said. Conservatives like the fact that he’s a piece of shit. It gives them permission to be pieces of shit, too.
I agree with the principle but you loose a robocaller Trump in the Bible belt explaing that hes pro choice after learning of his mistresses abortions and you could easily do some damage to the campaign. The trick is to make his robot say good things.
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These traitors should be prosecuted just like Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman did when they did the same type of traitorous bullshit.
But with actual jail this time, right?
One would dream but highly doubtful. Still having that conviction on their record is good to mark them as traitors.
I read that in padmes voice
According to Wikipedia they didn't even get jail time. Weak sauce.
It's unlikely that it's a United States citizen making these robocalls. Anyone stupid enough to break multiple federal and state laws doing this would be indoctrinated enough to think Trump would win without their help.
My money is on foreign interference.
Meanwhile James O'Keefe is still walking free
Ironic how the reverse will never happen. Only the right-wing benefit from less people voting. It's such a shit asymmetry.
Ironically, past examples actually give Republicans an edge when more people vote. When people who don't normally follow or discuss politics vote, they're more likely to vote GOP than an educated person.
But yes, a Democrat is less likely to break federal laws in general, such as a stunt like this.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
MANCHESTER, N.H. — A prominent New Hampshire Democrat plans to file a complaint with the state attorney general over an apparent robocall that appears to encourage supporters of President Joe Biden not to vote in Tuesday’s presidential primary.
Biden’s name does not appear on Tuesday’s ballot, a consequence of state elections officials setting the date of the primary ahead of South Carolina’s on Feb. 3, the first sanctioned contest of the 2024 nominating race under new Democratic National Committee rules.
“I want them to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible because this is an attack on democracy,” said Sullivan, an attorney, who believes the call could violate several laws.
She said she also plans to engage federal law enforcement in addition to the state attorney general’s office.
Sullivan served as party chair in 2002, when a so-called phone-jamming effort was carried out during a hotly contested U.S. Senate race.
The Biden campaign, which says it is not involved in the write-in effort in New Hampshire, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Nice and legal!
This is some nasty work. I didn't factor in AI being used like this.
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