My First Month of Linux
My First Month of Linux
This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.
I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn't say I was ever a "power user" per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating .dlls, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I'm sure a lot of people here would share my experience!
With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I "begrudgingly accepted" (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes ("This town ain't big enough for the both of us"), and figured,
Oh, what the hell. I'll primary Ubuntu and when I need to use Windows I'll run it on a thumb drive or something.
Well, it's been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I've gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.
I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It's rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There's very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I've heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it's worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.
I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Windows. I'm automating tasks, I'm fine-tuning network drivers, I'm getting in the weeds of file architecture, and it's all been a real blast to learn about. I actually feel a desire to learn so that I can help others have a similar experience to what I had coming into this.
Always nice to read so great posts. Welcome to a brand new world of possibilities. I promise your journey will be long but full of self accomplishments, learnings, satisfaction. You will probably run into one or two times when you'll have to search for a solution but in these situations the Linux community will always be there for you and you'll feel so proud to have learn something along the way.
You realize how much Linux is different to other OS only when you live with it. There's a real philosophy, it's not just some branding wording. If you feel adventurous enough you'll certainly see your mindset and way of thinking evolving as time goes. You have so much possibilities to discover, I'm jealous of this sentiment of new user you'll experience. I've personaly used to tweak Windows back in the days and its limitations (amongst other things) is one of the main reasons why I switched to Linux. Twenty years later I'm wondering how I didn't know earlier that another world existed.
Beyond the fact that Linux has improved my workflow drastically compared to my Windows/MacOS colleagues, it also helped me grow intellectually. The best part is that it never ends because there's always a new tool, app, distro to experiment, play with, and learn from.
Working with a system and not adapting to it or fighting against it is a huge difference. Linux has so many options that you can litterally build the system that fits your specific needs and liking to perfection (and even better than you can think now). It's just a matter of few efforts. We're not used to make efforts nowadays and prefer opting for the laziness of being the slaves of a system/brand but I can guarantee you will be rewarded for these efforts beyond your expectations.
Enjoy your new life!
It’s really nice to see a post like this.
Back in the day I was also dual booting windows and Ubuntu but windows was messing with the system clock.
Then I decided to just have a windows VM to be able to backup my iPhone (not my own choice😞), but I’d want to replace that VM by a MacOs so that at least I learn how to use a new system since I have to keep using windows at work anyway.
The community is a big plus on Linux and you always find someone ready to help you.
I also love the spirit of Linux where you rely way less on big corporations.
People switching nowadays have it so easy lol. When I switched, you'd still have to configure ALSA or OSS, tweak xorg.conf, use Nvidia because AMD was just not working (I did try and dual boot Linux before when ATI still existed but didn't fully switch), DXVK didn't exist, Vulkan didn't exist and WINE was still pre-1.0. And all this during a time when Microsoft had what some people consider the best version of Windows.
I don't really miss those times. And I know that it was even less convenient before. I also had a copy of SUSE Linux 9.0 or something from a family friend who ordered these from SUSE. And Mandrake I tried very briefly. But I wasn't really computer literate enough to teach me all that stuff myself so I consider my Linux journey starting in 2007 when I ordered a new PC and decided not to install Windows on it so that I wouldn't have that alternative in case something doesn't work.
The first time I installed Linux, I had to calculate vsync modlines for the monitor to get X running. It wasn't worth it, and I used Amigas and then NeXTSTEP (for x86, I wasn't rich) and Solaris at Uni and work for a few years until it was easier to get X running.
Very inspiring post! Thank you.
I started on win 95 btw. But my reasons for switching were similar.
Linux has just been far and away the best change I could make. I fully agree about feeling a lot more competent after getting settled into Linux. I started running Manjaro on an old laptop just so I could get used to CLI and general Linux-ness, but it never really "took" until I fully switched my primary pc to Manjaro (and then Fedora and now Nobara). I could kinda use powershell or cmd on windows when I needed to but otherwise nada. Now on Linux, I'm writing shell scripts and running most everything I can in my terminal. I feel like not having every program in existence available and adapted specifically for my OS has forced me to actually understand how my computer works and how to troubleshoot issues.
In addition, The ease of package managers means I can just try whatever software I want without dealing with the annoyance of uninstallers and cleaning up system files and messy directories. It's easier to start de-googling as well when a lot of the convenience of google services doesn't exist for me anymore.
Welcome to a larger world. IF you ever need dual boot working well on linux, I found the best robust method is install Windows first, leave space for more partitions. install Linux and make a separate boot efi partition. Many distros offer to probe for foreign OS. this will find windows and add a chainloader entry to grub. Set the Linux partition as the boot one in BIOS/EFI. Grub will start and if you choose Windows it handsover the boot to Windows boot ( and Windows doesn't know it). Windows will leave your EFi linux boot alone. You can also share a ntfs partition between them if needed
Windows will leave your EFi linux boot alone.
I wish that was True. Windows loves to overwrite boot partitions during major updates in my experience.
Thats why you have two. windows efi and linux efi on separate partitions. Windows never knows the other one exists and ignores the rest of what it sees as unalloated space. it even lets you shut down a windows update, boot linux and come back to windows later which continues the update. I have been running this way for 7 years, Windows has not touched my other EFi partition.
https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ is your friend.
Congrats! Linux user since december 2022
Been using Linux off and on for a few years now, but dual booting between windows/linux and occasionally using osx, it still amazes me just how much faster linux loads, especially compared to windows
Oh man no kidding! I'm using a relatively slow, large Linux OS (Ubuntu) and even it is snappy as hell compared to W10.
Cool! Welcome on board of Planet Linux. 🐧
Well done! Your curiosity will be rewarded. I would recommend learning some basic bash to start services, read the logs. Basic cli can really help with debugging when you encounter some new challenges (journalctl command for example).
Another thing I can recommend: When I started with Linux I bought a raspberry and used it without a gui to experiment so my shenanigans were less risky on my main pc. This was 3 years ago and now I'm working at a tech company managing 200 servers because the curiosity and empowered feeling never went away.
Good luck!
This post idea was inspired by a recent post by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de in this community.
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I wouldn't say I was ever a "power user" per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed
It's great to see other people out there too who aren't programmers or have an IT-background.
When I entered the Linux-world 3 years ago, I had a very rough start. I had to learn everything from scratch and didn't even know how to download something from GitHub.
Nowadays, and I'm extremely glad for all those evolutions that occured in this time frame, everything is way more accessible now.
Still, you will probably encounter some stepping stones, just like it is usual when learning something new! ✌️
Just keep going, and eventually, you'll use Linux as intuitively as everything else.I'll primary Ubuntu
Good choice! You'll hear people say "Ubuntu sucks, switch to xy", but, honestly, it isn't bad and a good choice.
As long as you're happy, everything is great!
You'll distrohop someday anyway, so enjoy your peace for a while... 😅I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It's rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There's very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I've heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it's worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.
I had the same experience. The patience and welcomeness is just unmatched. 90% of my experience has been just like that, and only a small percentage are jerks. Just remember, those 1% are a loud minority, so don't get discouraged when there are asshole comments one day.
I think the whole "noob-support"-thing is some kind if generational contract. We all got help learning our first steps in the Linux world, with the same experience as you, and now wanna pay that back.I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Windows.
Same. Starting Linux was the first domino piece for me.
Now, I have a homeserver, flashed my first Android custom ROM the hard way, radicalised myself in the FOSS-mentality and began to interact intensely with the community (Github, Lemmy, etc.). Using Linux made me a cliché somehow, it's a slippery slope.
Thank you for your post! It was a great read! 🙌
Welcome to Linux! Enjoy the stay.
Now when it comes to me, I had my windows system break on me when I tried to diagnose a HDD issue and decided that since it's just a data drive I can just disconnect it and see if it was the right drive. How wrong I was, couldn't even get it to boot after that. So since I didn't like how windows 10 handled stuff like that and knew at the time that it would get worse... I set up a dual boot with windows 10 and Ubuntu. Figuring that I would probably use windows the most and only sometimes use Linux. After a short while I actually had moved everything I could to Ubuntu and only used windows for the very few things that were just too stubborn at the time. Mainly anti Cheat stuff. It was still 2018 after all. Since that eventually got solved I ditched windows completely and have never looked back. Though I still sometimes wonder about a few of the issues I see and hear about on windows these days.
Gabba gabba we accept you one of us one of us!
Two tips:
KEEP BACKUPS, ALWAYS. Systems can be reinstalled in short order and you can set /home/ on a different partition to make it easier, but keep backups of the important stuff still.
Youtube "bash tutorial beginners" and find one to follow along with, it'll come in handy if you haven't yet.
Welcome friend!
Im planning on giving it a try. Thought I would try dual booting pop os.
Windows wants me to update to 11, but my processor is too old. So if I'm going to update my processor, I'll need to update the motherboard. But the OEM license is tied to the motherboard. So I'll have to buy a new copy of windows just to get on 11.
So just gonna see if all the things I like to play work on pop os.
I think the biggest thing is that I use c# for hobby programming, and I know .net core should run on Linux, but not sure about the IDE.
Several years ago I had a significant hardware failure and was without a PC for longer than I care to admit. When I finally rebuilt it, Windows wouldn't activate. So I nuked it and haven't looked back. It's not the first time I installed Linux. But it has been my daily driver since. Now I only use Windows for work, and Linux even there whenever I can (which isn't often, but sometimes anyway.)
Hey there. I run Linux on my daily but also work in a Windows-centric PC repair shop.
"Official" answer: You can move your key over to a new mobo by signing in to Windows with a Microsoft account, installing your new hardware, and activating Win 11 through the Settings->Activation->Troubleshooting (button)->"I recently changed hardware". And that will pull your key back down from your account. But it does lock you into an account.
"Unofficial" answer: you can absolutely update to Win 11 on old hardware. The easiest way is to boot a Win 11 iso in Ventoy. That works fairly often. You can alternatively edit the installer to not do the TPM check in the installer, which you can search for guides for online/YouTube.
Alternatively: you can hop on g2a, kinguin, etc and buy Windows keys cheap.
To be clear I know this is all bullshit, but it's options. Hope this helps!
Welcome to the free tech world.
Agree. I love Linux too and cannot switch back, even though the instability of KDE hurts a lot
I tried GNOME with dash to panel and it is really okay, middle click on taskbar icons is missing but gnome is pretty cool. It is not a "middle-way-poweruser" desktop at all though. Installed 2 apps from different sources? Good luck editing their desktop entries to make them distinct.
They basically outsource way too much to extensions and apps which also sucks.
8 months here. The simple idea of having to use windows again makes me throw up a little bit in my mouth.
realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,
I don't get this kinds of comments.
I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu,
So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you're happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.
I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Window
I just hope you don't require “professional” software such as MS Office, Adobe Apps, Autodesk, NI Circuit Design and whatnot Linux isn’t a viable options. The alternatives wont cut it if you require serious collaboration… virtualization, emulation (wine) may work but won’t be nice. Going for Linux kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.
Linux on servers is great, on the desktop if you've to collaborate with others who use those apps it's game over.
Don't worry friend, I recognize that Ubuntu is not quite as far into the ethical FOSS universe as some other distros but at the very least it's a soft landing for an uninformed new user. I plan on using it long enough to get my sea legs and use my backup PC to test other platforms.
I don't get this kinds of comments.
Yeah, I've never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.
professional software
I use what I want and I'm happy with the pickings. I mostly use word processors for journaling and note taking, and the professional software I use (music notation and DAWS) work just fine for my purposes. I say, if I'm content with what I'm using, why do you have to be an ass about it? I don't care what you use and I wouldn't land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.
I don’t care what you use and I wouldn’t land in the comments just to put you on blast for your personal choices.
The thing is that this isn't "personal choices", I don't even use most of the solutions I cited, but I happen to know a lot of people who do in different industries and that tried Linux countless times and showed me how poorly things are. I'm talking about managers, designers, engineers, architects - a lot of people with a lot of different needs that would love to be on Linux as much as you do but can't because it simply doesn't work out.
Yeah, I’ve never understood people making poorly written snide comments with absolutely zero clarification, either.
Do you really want a properly written comment? It looks like you don't but I'll give you one anyways. Just don't complain like you did when I bluntly said what's the reality of Linux desktop and professional software.
realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat,
Microsoft has multiple versions of Windows and if you are smart enough to install Ubuntu you might as well be smart enough to read about them for five minutes and understand that you if you pick Windows 11 Pro you'll be moderately clean and Windows 11 Enterprise will be very clean. You'll also find out that with ANY version you can pick English (World) for a cleaner experience:
Selecting the "English (World)" locale during Windows Setup means you'll receive fewer advertised tiles in your Start menu once Windows is installed, but it doesn't change the preinstalled apps that come with Windows (also known as bloatware).
The remaining or all ads and spyware can also be disabled via group policy. When it comes to disabling crap Windows offers way better control than Ubuntu and macOS because it was made for that. There are countess companies and government agencies that force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable all the "special features" otherwise they couldn't use it.
Microsoft also has very detailed documentation into this (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services) that you can follow to disable what you don't want. Meanwhile Canonical, Apple and others don't give shit about users disabling the spyware and the systems sometimes break if you block connections.
So before you say unfounded and dumb things such as "impossible", "forced" and whatnot go teach yourself about how things really work and what can and can't be done.
So you ditched and unethical mega corp that runs ads for a wanna be unethical mega corp that also mines your data and you’re happy about it? Oh boy the illusion.
What data mining is Canonical doing, exactly?