In the wake of its historic strike victory, the United Auto Workers says thousands of nonunion autoworkers have reached out asking for support in organizing their plants. The UAW already has plans in motion to unionize the whole US auto sector.
Absolutely. As the newest verse to Solidarity Forever goes:
They say our day is over;
They say our time is through.
They say you need no union if your collar isn't blue.
Well that is just another lie the boss is telling you,
For the Union makes us strong!
The selfishness is what kills us cuz the more selfish will take it all and we have nothing left to fight over except life(style) itself. We all lose when that happens
They say our day is over;
They say our time is through.
They say you need no union if your collar isn't blue.
Well that is just another lie the boss is telling you,
For the Union makes us strong!
I sure hope they aren't too late to the party. With glut of overpriced trucks sitting on the domestic lots in the past few weeks as it seems they have caught up with demand and/or people are having a harder time getting financing from banks for $100,000+ trucks and EV product is not moving where they will put their production labour into next? This is even starting to happen with Tacos at Toyota.
I like how that article assumes that they’re simply ignorant about EVs, rather than being malicious.
But then I think of how much less maintenance EVs need, and how much of many dealers’ business is from service, and I suspect that the general anti-EV tone at dealerships is being pushed down from the top.
Henry Ford was great at this early on but these days I'm not sure automotive employees can support themselves with self funded purchases. It's going to more buyers than just the employees.
I'm concerned the auto industry have already taken the money at the trough with the crazy mark ups and tight supply of the past couple of years and now are going to say sorry our pockets are empty now...
The old story of capitalism for private profits and then socialism for the cycle of losses. It feels like the next loss cycle is ahead for the automotive industry and workers despite having good increases with their recent contracts are going to be bearing the brunt of the slowdowns again.
I really hope I'm wrong on this as it's not a great outcome and it hasn't been in the past either. I'm not sure the public is going to stomach another round of taxpayer buyouts again.
(Unions in general are definitely good and obviously it makes more impact with more workers at once. I just had the thought of ’monopolies == bad' and wondered how/if that applies to unions)
Unions are a form of government. Their leadership is voted in by its members. It'd be weird to say governments are monopolies. Yes there's only one government, but the representatives are democratically elected. Individuals still have a voice.
A great way I've seen this summarized is that a union is not made of people you have to agree with or share beliefs or even ideology with, they're people who you have a shared economic interest as part of a single labor body.
I think the more pro-capitalist view of unions would say that "one big union" is definitely a bad idea. The socialist or anarcho-syndicalist would likely see the one big union as a way to collectively fight the bosses, specifically in the context of class struggle. The communist or Marxist-Leninist would maybe say the union is a barrier to revolution by sustaining the class structure.
The biggest "one big union" org was/is the IWW or "wobblies" as they were known and it was their primary mission to unionize all workers under the IWW banner.
I can chime in as an anarcho-syndicalist! Personally, vanguard unions seem like a bad idea to me for the same reason as a vanguard party. I think unions should stick to their industry, and coordinate production between industries, i.e. the union representing a factory making zippers coordinates with the union representing a factory making pants to make sure all pants have zippers.
I'm not strictly opposed to a vanguard union because I don't think it would have the same potential for harm, however. Hell, I'm a member of the IWW. I just generally feel like production would be far less wasteful if the workers can project their voice through their union without meeting internal resistance from members outside their industry.
You do have a good point there and I agree with you
Workers should have the choice of what union they want to join and not he forced into the choice of join this one union in the automotive industry or not being in a union
Nah, union involvement in certain if not all sectors should absolutely not be discretionary, particularly in safety-sensitive industries although this really shouldn't be limited to individual industries.
Otherwise you get idiots bitching its "safe enuff for muh" and get others or themselves hurt. Nope, sorry, they can be fishermen or forage in the woods if they want thuh freedom
There needs to be one unified union or else their bargaining power is greatly reduced. The cooperations will only hire from the union that benefits them most. Remember a union is not a private corporation. A union is a representative negotiating body. Every member of a union votes on and has a say in how the union acts.
Yeah I don't have much time for the "are professional workers working class debate," I just extend to whether you have to work for a living. Obviously there's PMC class privilege in certain ways and I think it's good to discuss that but I'm not in to the exclusionary side of that. Petite-bourgeois is more about the values they borrow from the bourgeois on account of having more access to conspicuous consumption so that's where I'm a PMC class traitor.
Managers usually work on behalf of executives so that line has to be carefully determined. In my union supervisors are union and managers aren't.