Who you gonna vote for, Republicans?

Democratic Politicians: "We're going to ignore you."

Minority voters: "... that's bad."

Republican Politicians: "We're going to pay attention to you! And blame you for everything wrong with the world!"

Minority voters: "That's worse."

Gotta love the state of affairs the US is in.

I don’t think these issues are being ignored but a two seat majority in the Senate, comprised of red state democrats, does limit the ability to do anything here. If you look at the state level there is a lot happening to address a variety of issues by blue states. Red states are moving backward
- Ignored might be a strong word, but, especially on the national stage, there hasn't been the impetus to make strong strides on minority rights for a while. Part of that is the fault of a certain proportion of Democratic voters, and part of that is the fault of Democratic politicians (and all of the blame, of course, lays twice as heavy on the GOP), but it is definitely a continuing problem.

You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.

Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.

Sorry, who are the Democratic Muslim elected officials enacting lgbtq+ flag bans?
- Hamtramck, Michigan voted in a Muslim majority city council, who promptly banned Pride flags… for reasons:
  https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
- Here ya go
- It's happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days
  Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn't yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.
That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks
Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s
As usual, Simpsons did it first
Yep people like using race and religion as excuses to protect their hate towards queer people. We've known this for a while but people seem surprised when people other than white Christians do this.
That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
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That’s false and offensive stereotyping. Polling shows over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights and treatment. Only 15% of Pentecostal Christians in the US agree. Meanwhile, Muslim politicians like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are very supportive of LGBT issues to the point where they lost the votes of some Muslim conservatives.
Stop trying to make stuff up.
- But the specific thing that Paddirn is referencing DID happen?
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

All Abrahamic religions are very conservative. Hardcore Muslims share more values with hardcore Christians than with progressive liberals.

Problem is the xenophobia.
- That's another value they share.
Not true.
In the US, Jews and Muslims vote Democrat. Over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights as everyone else; meanwhile only 15% of Pentecostal Christians agree.
- Muslim Americans used to vote Republican and Bush won them in the 2000 presidential elections.
  Until 9/11 happened of course.
  But it's interesting what you say about 50% of Muslim Americans supporting lgbt. My guess is that those who went to America are vetted, more educated and therefore more open-minded, unlike in Europe which received massive influx of Muslim refugees of all backgrounds.
  I don't mean to sound classist and elitist but educated immigrants are just more likely to adapt and integrate. This is not very different to how the Italians and Irish in America were perceived in the past due to their massive immigration population.
- Why would you compare Muslims to Pentacostal Christians specifically?
- Hardcore meaning fundamentalist types. Not sane people.
I don't think the current shitstorm has anything to do with hardcoreness.
- WHAT THE FUCK IS UP, DENNY's?!?
- Is that a joke?
Sure, but most Muslims in America are not hardcore. The average Muslim American is significantly more liberal than the average white person.
- Idk about that one champ
- Thats so hyperbolic it would be funny if I didn't think you were serious

Who are they going to vote for in what is effectively a two-party system, the Republicans with a sizeable group of Christo-fascists?

They'll get even worse than ignored, they'll be targeted.

- 3rd party has always been a guise to pull votes from Democratic candidates.
- Giant asteroid 2024
- Ever wonder why Steve Bannon is working so hard to recruit 3rd party candidates?
- Can't happen until you change the legislatures to 5 member proportional districts and the single-seat offices to something like approval voting (or any other voting system where it's safe to give your favorite maximum support).
- Tell me you don't understand math & game theory without telling me you don't understand math & game theory.
- And that's how you effectively voted for whichever of the 2 parties you hate least.

What should Democrats be doing for black voters that they aren't?

There is a national black caucus that pretty well represents current black American issues before each election.
reparations for slavery, strengthening the right to vote and making it easier to access polls, outlawing the death penalty, abolishing prisons, removing the clause in the 13th amendment that allows for legal slavery, abolishing the police or at the very least force them to have oversight, banning AI for use in law enforcement, etc.
- Reparations seems like a nonstarter but the rest of these are happening, to various degrees, at the state level in blue states
- Thanks for the thorough list, that all seems like good stuff to me except I'd prefer reforming prisons and making them like the Nordic model instead of abolishing them.
- Reparations: what’s your suggested plan for this?

Muslim Americans are going to be so shocked when Trump strips their citizenship & expels them from the country of their birth.

It can happen here.

You guys seriously need to start talking about getting rid of your two party system

The #GOP is outlawing other methods of voting, so good fucking luck with that if you're going to support Trump by staying at home.

Can someone please identify a few "Muslim issues" that are ignored by Democrats? I can't seem to think of any political issues that could be considered "Muslim"

Yes.
Removing the Muslim ban (Biden delivered on this)
Civil Liberties for Muslim Americans (he won’t meet with Muslim rights groups like CAIR)
Prosecuting hate crimes against Muslims and mosques. (Biden only announced this month that he will get some experts together and make a new policy TBD. Not sure why he waited 3 years to announce he will start to deliver on a campaign promise…)
Evenhanded Israel-Palestine policy (he badly failed at this)
Support democracy in Middle East and Muslim majority countries (he’s failed at this)
- Not sure why he waited 3 years to announce he will start to deliver on a campaign promise…
  Common tactic. Delay working on vote-winning issues until the end of the first term for that sweet, oh so sweet, double dip.
- ya, just remember if Biden doesn't get in, the guy that unironically wants to send Muslims to camps will get in
- I appreciate this!
Not American
In Canada Muslims vote Conservative
Recently a Liberal visited a Mosque and covered her hair/dressed up for it
They booed her and told her that Muslims will never vote for a pro-gay candidate
We had a nationwide march against gays/trans called the one million march for children, Christian and Muslim leaders joined together to organize it
- Yeah that one million march shit is fucked
- Source? I can't find anything confirming what you've described.
- Thanks for your perspective!
Well many of them do seem to be pretty upset at the US giving military aid to Israel.
- I completely overlooked that tbh, not my proudest moment.

Their choice remains: getting beaten up, deported or killed or just getting their issues ignored

I know the title is a joke but yes, minority groups (excluding the LGBT+ community) are voting red in larger numbers than ever.

I can't find information on minorities voting conservative.
Do you have any articles I can look up or keywords to search for?
- The number should be near zero for minority groups buuuuut yeah.
  https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2022/09/29/latinos-and-the-2022-midterm-elections/
Source?
- Trump hits new poll highs with Black, Hispanic voters. What to make of it?
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  Across five high-quality polls that have broken out non-White voters in the past month, Trump is averaging 20 percent of Black voters and 42 percent of Hispanic voters.
  Both numbers — and especially that for Black voters — could set modern-day records for a Republican in a presidential election.
  No Republican presidential candidate in the past 50 years has approached receiving 20 percent of the Black vote. Since Republicans took 18 percent in 1972 and 16 percent in 1976, according to exit polls, they haven’t taken more than 12 percent of Black
  See also
  Black support for GOP ticked up in this year’s midterms
  Republican candidates were backed by 14% of Black voters, compared with 8% in the last midterm elections four years ago, according to AP VoteCast, an extensive national survey of the electorate.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Same in the UK with Labour ayylmao

Black folks aren't marching in anti gay parades (see comment below).

So I feel like it's kinda unfair

Why even post this if you tacitly disagree with it?

Whatever pisses off you whippersnappers

It occurred to me after I posted this that depicting "black voters" in a meme with a noose might be insensitive. What do you guys think? Did I do a racism?

Being hung isn’t exclusive to black people. I think you’ll be fine.
- Though I've heard their dicks are larger than most.
given that it's a very widespread meme format used exactly the way this meme presents itself, any meaning along those lines are incidental and not intended. Personally I give it a pass, though it's possible there are people that don't think the same and find it offensive
I think it would have to have stronger implications of lynching, specifically, to be racist. My two cents.

votes democrat for house and senate, votes republican for president

At least I get to see them fight each other while I get screwed over regardless

Also its funny because iirc most polls and studies have shown that Muslims are still equally split between both parties anyway.

False. Been an American Muslim voter for 20 years, and majority of American Muslims have voted Democratic ever since 2004 when they wanted to send a message to Bush. Since then you haven’t seen an election with Democrats getting less than 70% of the American Muslim vote.
I don’t know where you think or heard that Muslims are split, but that’s simply false and you can check exit polling in every US election since 2004 if you don’t believe me.