How do I self host data?
How do I self host data?
I'm tired of being tied to specific calendars and to-do apps because of difficulties in sharing and syncing my data, so I'd like to be able to manage it myself, either self hosting or using someone else's servers.
I already pay for web-hosting for a personal website (wordpress) but beyond this I'm totally at a loss.
My main goal is incredibly simple - I just want to host some notes and calendars for my family (tomavoid headaches when phones invariably break and so on), which I feel can't be too hard but I'm also incredibly stupid.
Please help?!
This will not be a popular thing to say in Lemmy, but I don’t think self hosting those things is going to reduce your headaches. I have worked in IT all my life, and I have lots of experience running services of all kinds, including my self-hosted home stuff. Nowadays, I am very mindful of the cost in time and hassle to DIY rather than let someone else handle it. When it comes to calendars, everything I see has an option to integrate with Google or Outlook, so I can’t imagine how sharing and syncing are going to be better if you move to some obscure open source thing. I fought that exact battle for an entire decade - you don’t want to get me started talking about CalDAV - and my life got so much easier when I gave up and moved my stuff to a standard provider.
Avid selfhoster here. Completely agree.
"We choose to self host all the things not because it is easy, but because it is hard".
Very easy to get a self hosted calendar sharing thing to work, but to do it securely and reliably is a significant long term undertaking.
especially when others might be accessing data there.
The simplest way is to get an old computer or buy an SBC and install nextcloud software on it.
I found buying a Synology nas and hosting it to be pretty simple. Unfortunate that it's proprietary software though.
I've been looking at replacements/upgrades for my ds1019+ for a bit now (year or so out, just researching) but it looks like synology has it pretty locked-in for user-friendliness. TrueNAS doesn't seem to have the UI/multitasking (for example, trying to setup a container and also need to edit firewall rules, and want to see them both on screen to verify that you aren't about to dive into an hour-long frustration session), official tools (especially their mobile counterparts) look ancient but they work well enough, and while it doesn't do everything I want from the gui it does everything important and feels like it isn't exposing me to gotchas or issues that I might get myself into. A lot of times when people start an forum answer with "just ssh into the box" I'm like "nah I don't need animated cat gifs as my desktop that bad".
But I do wish it was foss. I feel the positive points I just listed wouldn't exist, though, so... I guess I'm happy it's not? Foss projects having programmers do UI is such a downfall for many projects, but I imagine it's hard to get a UI designer on board with the promise of "exposure" instead of "actual money that will keep you from being evicted". And most systems tools that are open-source are like "here is the garage, there are the tools, bye" and you've never seen a 'hammer' or 'screwdriver' in your life. I don't want to get a masters degree to run a home server, ya know?
I don't mind a bit of proprietary-ness, what I'm after is controlling how and with whom I can share my data.
Essentially the goal is to have a family's worth of accounts with Calendars, To-Dos/Reminders, and Notes that I can back up myself but still allows syncing to phones/PCs, etc. and basically a central calendar for 'global' (ie. Whole family) events.
Check out Nextcloud. It’s the best self hosting solution for the stuff you’re looking for (IMHO).
Second this. Nextcloud is amazing.
If you're not technically savy, there are many options for managed Nextcloud instances, similar to managed wordpress hosting.
Easiest solution is here ➡️ https://runtipi.io/
Have a look at projects like Nextcloud (file sync, calendar, address book, smartphone sync, many other add-ons) and Yunohost (a beginner-friendly solution/distribution that does many services, including Nextcloud). Both run eiher on a cloud server / VPS. Or on a SBC (RaspPi...) or an old laptop at home (once you manage to get the port forwarding in your router right). It's a bit of a learning curve but not rocket science. Just fiddle around and try it first, before you put important data on it. And don't forget to do backups. I'd recommend YunoHost.
I run Nextcloud. It might run on your webhost as well. Try not to throw too many plugins (usually called apps in Nextcloud) into it to keep the performance up.
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Yeah, CalDAV looks like the best fit from my limited searching, it's just actually putting that into a usable system that I can use that I'm struggling with!
doesn’t really meet their last requirement
@Chouxfleur@lemmy.world there are tons of solutions for that and it depends on more context of your use case (how many people? Are they all in the same network? Using a VPS or LAN server?) but if I were to do that I would probably start looking into Nextcloud first.
So it's likely that I'll have 2-5 people accessing the central info.
It's one household so they'll be on the same network but ideally I'd like to be able to sync calendars (and the associated info) at any given time online.
That's where I run out of knowledge, essentially. Setting up a basic CalDAV server (like Baikal for example) isn't beyond the realm of possibility, it's just knowing how to actually get it online.
Would I need my own server in my home, or can I host it similarly to my Wordpress website, for example?
Linode has some cool “turnkey” solutions for this. One example: https://www.linode.com/marketplace/apps/nextcloud/nextcloud/
So instead of doing a reverse proxy or vpn on self hosted hardware you would be renting linode servers that are already connected. Then you just have to follow the instructions to hook up a domain or add the relevant dns records.
Either way is fine it just depends on what you’re comfortable with and what you have on hand/want to buy.