Death Note

Second one is also free cause we all would use it on Musk the moment the first one worked with Trump.

Im killing Putin first. Hes the core problem, and the most evil of the richest billionaire club.
Gonna need 2 freebies mate.
- Freebies? Those are mandatory and required. No shame if they are evil.
- I think that's one thing I couldn't connect with with Death Note. Why bother going after criminals when there are tinpot dictators out there?
- Now see, that's what friends are for.
  You get your freebie and take out one billionaire, then you hand it to your bestie, he takes out one billionaire, they hand it to their bestie, they take out one billionaire, and you know, twenty-five, forty-five people down the line, or one relatively moderate-sized college campus, and the world is a better place and nobody has to suffer in between heaven and hell for the rest of eternity because of it.
- You’d need like 20 names, minimum, to reduce the bloodshed in the coming succession war and post-war regime.
- Does your freebie have to be one person or can it be, like, a population? Can you deathnote every conservative politician in a go? That'd be one fuck of a freebie.
you can probably fill the whole thing with morally acceptable people to disappear
I can think of like 5 within a second of thinking about it
- Wikipedia is full of pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_senators with names, photos, and biographies. The scum bags that are destroying our world are not all a secret cult. They're just assholes in suits.
I've thought about this an unhealthy amount. Trump would shit himself to death on live TV. He would cry like a bitch and narrate his experience in great detail.
- Are you me? It’s was a good while ago but that was literally what I posted in response to the Death Note question last I saw it!
  Trump would shit himself to death on live Tv. 😂
- The use of it as a mildly lethal control device is underplayed.
  So-and-so does XYZ, then dies of general body breakdown at 94"
Moving on to kill all of the owning class because they are the source of all our problems tbh
- Nah, they all have wills to keep their wealth from reaching anyone who needs it.
What would you write down exactly?
I'd write that he get kidnapped, his SS failed, broadcasted live getting fucked slowly in ass by 'fucking machine' equipped with huge ass golden dildo made from gold jewelries he got in his safe, bleeding to death over hour.
Repeat with all other billionaires, one every day so we get to savior every moment of it. Each day will have anniversary of billionaire's death. Top 365 of worst of the worst, and then next year another 365, etc. There's 2700s, so by time first year is up, we might have billionaires giving away their wealth.
I could go on but you get gist of it.
Nah, you'd probably want to do some research into who is the one actually funding people like trump and who in the U.S. government is fomenting these forever wars that are funding the war lobby.
Trump and Elon are the mouthpieces and distractions for where the real money is coming from.

It could be 101: the first a surprise, the next 100 to establish a meaningful statistical correlation.

can you be my lawyer please

But like it would be so unbelievable that you can't just say, oh x died bc I wrote his name, that would be ludicrous. You need a decent sample size. I think I'd need 3 freebies. Before that i would not believe this notepad kills people.

What you do is have your first one be someone famous enough that you know when and how they die if it happens, and something that is specific as a cause and unlikely but not so implausible as to make the note resort to it's default instead. Like, make Putin trip and break his neck during a live broadcast event or something. You could easily design something plausible enough but still highly unlikely to randomly happen in exactly that way at that time.
What if someone wrote "a moth"?
- Then we kill the goddamn bastard who dares try it instead

"Surely that was a fluke, it won't work for a second time!"

"Twice in a row? What are the chances. I wonder if it works with pencil instead of pen."

...

Apple pen !
- Penpineappleapplepen!

Invariably I'd have drawn a comedy penis in there somewhere, and some poor lad somewhere would likely find his plonker refusing to work one night, or died with his old chap at full mast for maximum embarrassment.

Or you accidentally murder some guy with the misfortune to be named "Dick".
- You have to be able to visualize the face of the person when you write their name. In the rules.

It's still pretty unrealistic that anyone actually figured out how the deaths were occurring. Even if you thought "maybe it's magic" nobody else would take it seriously.

I'm not L
- I recently watched the series. Well, at least up to a certain point anyway. I'm convinced that L isn't so much a genius detective as Light was just overwhelmingly fucking stupid
- Consume nothing but sugar and become him.
Light fucks up early on by killing the fake L on live TV, making it pretty clear there’s a person behind it.
L has a mega freak out when he does realize it’s magic, because it doesn’t fit with his logical view of the world.
- Tbf the fake L did say it was a worldwide broadcast and Light wanted to be "god of a new world". It was a major fuck up no doubt, but if it was worldwide then L wouldn't have been able to narrow him down to a specific region of Japan, and Light would have been able to announce himself to the world.
  Light is childish and hates to lose... because he's a high schooler. Idk his age but probably 17-18. Idk how many kids that age would have gotten as far as Light did.
and especially its done by a spirit/god they cant even see.

"What a cool notebook! I'm going to make this my new personal phone book and spend all afternoon putting all my contacts in it."

Well, you can always erase it IIRC
- I think you have to scratch a line through the name. Don't quote me on that I'm far too lazy to look up the rules.

It starts off innocently but before long, you are eating snacks

One too many potato chips is all it takes.

I recently saw a sticker that said, "If at first you don't succeed, try a few more times to establish a baseline."

Iirc, you can write how the person behaves before death on the death note. You can easily write your own life fanfic and peaceful death there to ensure you don't get Raito'd or L'd in the meantime

I think there was a pretty short limit on how far in the future you could write someone's death.
- Also, if the circumstances described are impossible, it will default to a heart attack.
- I think there was a pretty short limit on how far in the future you could write someone’s death.
  23 days. You had 40 seconds to write a cause of death and 6:40 to write the details, and could even pre-write the details and add the name(s) afterward but the Death Note could not effect anything that occurred more than 23 days in the future, with the exception of dying by a disease that would take longer than that to progress and not writing a time (in which case they develop the disease but die when/how the disease would take them). The real problem is that you also can't use the Death Note to directly extend someone's life by writing that they die after they normally would - if you try they just die however they would have died if you hadn't used the note. You can however use the Death Note to kill someone who is a threat to another, indirectly saving their life.
- No but the longer the time is that you describe the mor reasonable the actions have to be for the person to be.
  So you can make a police officer shoot some random people but you can't make him save a black child /s
Heh. L'd. Funni. Because in the show there's a guy named --

the first thing I would do is write my name in it so no one steals it

Thank you! The first thing I do with every notebook is write my name on the first page (or inside cover)
If you think about it, ALL of my uses would be freebies

Remember, when someone unexpectedly kicks the bucket. That leads to a power vaccuum. Instead, you got to go after the middle managers. The people who carry out a politican's agenda. In theory, another faction would be able to capitalize on the situation. While taking out some politicans would be a net beneft, the fallout would be terrible. A civil war in nuclear armed Russia? Another Middle East war?

Now when it comes to billionaries and the other parasites. Take those fuckers out. The World doesn't have to worry about a corporate power vaccuum taking everyone down like a civil war in a country.

Or, create martyrs.
I mean think about how many thousands of middle managers you would have to kill to disrupt a large bureaucracy.
For a fraction of the same amount of deaths you could kill existing leaders, anyone that tries to replace them, and their rivals.
- Maybe middle managers was the wrong word. To better explain myself, let's have a look at the leadership team of DHS.
  Would removing Meth Gnome Kristi Noem cause chaos? Sure however DHS would continue to more or less function. However, the Chief of Staff Greyson McGill or Deputy Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Madison D. Sheahan being removed would have a far more impact on the daily workings of DHS.
  Or how about any of these chucklefucks?
  While the powerful will fight over who gets to be in charge, the minions will continue to make sure that the system grinds on.

Doesn't a shinigami come and explain how it works? It's been a bit since I've seen death note so I don't remember if that happens before or after you use it. If it's before, there's no reason to assume it wouldn't work since a supernatural being appears to explain how it works which adds credibility.

In the anime, the shinigami only came after the first kill IIRC. Light only had the tutorial text in the notebook to go off of.

If you write "person xyz dies in a month" you have plenty of time to write down thousands of names before the first one dies, and in all this time you can always make the reasonable assumption that it won't work anyways.

Death note would be impossible in current year. Like, your test use would have to be on a huge name otherwise your phone analytics would super rat you out. I can just imaging light starting to get ads for burner phones and VPNs.

just don't Google them.
look
Ronald Reagan
- It worked!
Just subscribe to a major newspaper and write down everyone who sucks.

Death Note should get a new series and it should be entirely about every evil billionaire currently alive in 2025

at the end of the series light becomes one of the god of deaths.

"This is the ~~LockPicking~~NotebookWritingLawyer... allow me to desmonstrate one more time to make sure that it is not a fluke"

"You shouldn't be trying to use a potentially supernatural notebook and accidentally cause the death of people. But if you ever find yourself accidentally become the owner of a death note, then you'll need a good lawyer, but if you need a great lawyer, contact my law firm. You don't just need a legal team, you need The Eagle Team!"

Ok but that sounds like exactly the kind of shit test God puts people through in religious parables.

Give them an unbelievable and entirely random thing that SAYS it's supernaturally evil (and it actually is, but it's also so out of left field--) and if they don't take the warning at face value and put it back down they will go to hell forever or something.

My death note would be the same as fortune 500

I think I have to disagree on this one. Whether or not you believed it would work is irrelevant. The malicious intent is what matters here. You happened to find a supernaturally accursed notebook titled "Death Note" and you decide to write someone's name in it? That already crosses the moral line imo, independent of any actual effects.

Counterarguments welcome.

If I say, "Damn him!" about someone, and it turns out that Hell is real and that saying that actually causes people to be sent to Hell, am I morally culpable for that? Let's say I attempt to hex someone, knowing full well that it doesn't work, but just using it as a way to express my frustrations - but then it turns out hexes are real and I actually hexed them?
You can't read in a significant malicious intent if a person takes an action that they have every reason to believe is harmless.
I'd recommend reading some of The Illustrated Guide to Law which covers relevant concepts, albeit from a legal perspective rather than a moral one
:::spoiler spoiler
- The intent is the important part, I think. When you say "damn him!" you (I imagine) aren't actually thinking of damning that person to hell, and seeing if it works.
  It's more like pointing a gun you're pretty sure isn't loaded at someone's head and pulling the trigger. Even if you thought it wasn't loaded, you know exactly what you're doing if it happens to be.
Is it malicious intent of you write your own name in it?
- Step one to claiming ownership of a notebook, TBF.

I wonder if you could feed the paper into a printer and have some LLM without guardrails print out the names and likenesses of all the wealthy people on earth so they all die at once..

The rules don’t say you can’t do that, you just need to write the name and have the image of the person in mind, and this might just fulfill those requirements, if just looking at someone while writing would do it. It’s not like you are capable of a perfect representation in your mind anyway, so ai might be close enough..

I feel like that’s morally fairly clean since you didn’t do anything but fill a paper tray and write a prompt..

I don't think outsourcing to a machine would get you morally off the hook though

Ahhh, but if you attempt to kill someone and the fact that it could be a freebie is part of your decision process then it isn't a freebie. So having read this you no longer get a freebie.

It's obviously broken.

I’m immediately researching ask the major political figures of the world and most of the richest people too- I think I need 8-10 books, probably.

a more advanced version of the death note, would be control devil contract from chainsawman, she only needs to hear the name to instantly kill the person, instead of a time delayed time bomb.

Not sure I really buy this. You have two choices: use it or don't. If you use it, it will either kill somebody or it won't; if you don't use it, it surely won't kill anybody. The probability of the former case is obviously extraordinarily low, but the probability of the latter causing a death is surely many times lower. The only thing that matters for morality IMO is the ratio of these probabilities, not the absolute difference.

Every time someone steps behind the wheel of the car, the (apparent) chances of them causing a death is so many times higher than writing a name in a Death Note that the latter is completely negligible.
- true, but using a car has its own utility.