US intelligence warned of the potential for violence days before Hamas attack | CNN Politics
US intelligence warned of the potential for violence days before Hamas attack | CNN Politics
The US intelligence community produced at least two assessments based in part on intelligence provided by Israel warning the Biden administration of an increased risk for Palestinian-Israeli conflict in the weeks ahead of Saturday’s seismic attack on southern Israel, according to sources familiar wi...
Israel wanted this to happen. The US wasn't the only warning they got.
And the civilians are the ones who suffer.
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No, the Netanyahu regime wanted it to happen. We hold leaders responsible for their own decisions, rather than blaming a nationality.
I agree with you. I do.
But where the hell does that logic go when it's not American political allies in the firing line?
When Saddam allegedly had WMDs and Al-Qaida did 9/11, why were all Muslims everywhere suddenly terrorists?
When COVID was allegedly sourced from a lab in China, why were all Chinese people being targeted, attacked and killed on US streets?
Now that we're talking about Israel, everyone's suddenly so protective of exactly who the fingers should be pointed at. Saddam never did have WMDs. The upper echelons of Saudi Arabia were behind 911. There's no proof that COVID came from a lab in China, but those generalisations are often justified, because "look at how many they've killed!".
I agree with you, that it really is Netenyahu's regime that wants this. There are many, many Israeli's all over the world who are condemning Israel's actions in this war, in much the same way that Muslims have spoken out against terrorism for years, and Chinese people called for the hate crimes to cease.
Article makes it sound like they expected just the typical barrage of rockets rather than the invasion that occurred. I’m not convinced this is evidence Israel wanted the attack - with the Iron Dome they likely had sufficient protections against rockets. Neither this nor the reported Egyptian warning appear to have provided details to make one expect what was essentially a ground invasion.
Works out well for the US and their military contractors. I guess it was just another bit of good business in the capitalist haven of America.
we literally warn them
"Clearly the US wanted this"
We have enough sins in our past of intentionally not warning governments, and enough in our present of mealy-mouthed "Oh, well, Israel is just defending itself" without having to add false charges to the pile.
As I wrote 8n another string...
Those assessments, if true, were certainty shared with the Israelis. Problem is that there is no actionable intelligence, but certainly Israel could have moved up its security posture. The same thing happened on 9/11 when Rice was advised and did nothing to upgrade security as she was NSA.
The same thing happened on 9/11 when Rice was advised and did nothing to upgrade security as she was NSA.
Yeah but even if the US had decided to increase security, I doubt it would have really prevented highjackers from seizing the planes.
The biggest difference is that netanyahus failed to move security forces back to the border, keeping them preoccupied with protecting the illegal settlements. More than likely this wouldn't have been possible, or at least nearly as bad if the current administration wasn't so fixated on the settlements.
Arguably, preventing violence against illegal settlers is a higher priority for the Netanyahu regime than preventing violence against innocent civilians, because illegal settlers are reliable Netanyahu supporters and innocent civilians are not.
It's standard neofascist strategy. Trump, Modi, Orban, Putin, etc. would do the same.
Used to travel quite a lot. Before 9/11 when you landed in say Germany you would get eyes on you from the time you left the plane. There was always security with machine guns. Don't know if that would have given al Queida pause, but it would have been something instead of nothing.
As for Bibi, he'll be gone as soon as the war is over. It's happened before in Israel.
More realistically: Those assessments, if true, came from the Israelis.
Worse, they actually lowered security because their soldiers were too busy evicting and killing civilians in the West Bank.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
None of the American assessments offered any tactical details or indications of the overwhelming scope, scale and sheer brutality of the operation that Hamas carried out on October 7, sources say.
But the assessments were among a wave of high-level warnings given to the Biden administration by both its own intelligence community and Middle Eastern allies over the past year, raising questions about whether the US and Israel were appropriately attuned to the risk.
A Middle Eastern ambassador in Washington, DC, also told CNN that their government had repeatedly warned the White House and US intelligence officials of a buildup of Hamas weapons and anger among Palestinians that was set to explode.
But US officials also believe that Israel had become complacent about the threat Hamas posed and failed to recognize key indicators that the group was planning for a large-scale operation.
Israel believed that its policy of offering work permits to Gazans and allowed Qatari money into the country had given Hamas something to lose — and lulled the group into quiescence.
“Hamas is very, very restrained and understands the implications of further defiance,” Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s national security adviser, told an Israeli radio channel six days before the assault.
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Benny is fucked.