Does anybody have any good article links on the new pope, Robert Prevost? I assume he's total right-wing dog shit garbage.
Does anybody have any good article links on the new pope, Robert Prevost? I assume he's total right-wing dog shit garbage.
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He's someone who looks centrist but is solidly in Francis's camp.
I think he was elected for a singular purpose and that is a specially forged dagger aimed at the Anglosphere Catholic right.
I think this is why Tagale lost influence, Francis was increasingly concerned with the heretical tendencies in Tradcaths and has moved to crush them once and for all before they can schism.
Basically Vance may have killed Francis but Francis had his revenge stacked up long before.
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You’re making hopeful. Stop
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Picking an American with South American heritage seems pointed and specific at this time. I hope that was their intent.
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Lib Pope with strong ties with Peru. He helped convince Pope Francis to dissolve a Catholic Far-Right group in Peru that abused children. Is pro-immigrant and said some anti-trump and anti-fujimori stuff. The Peruvian Far-Right hates him. He cares about climate change.
He also said anti-lgbtq+ stuff, anti-abortion and doesn't seem he wants to give eomen more power within the church. There are some accusations that he let some pedo priests in the US live near places children visit, and some about him not caring about victims in Peru (the Peru ones seem fake, only right-wing newspapers were publishing it. The US idk).
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So not good but could be worse?
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Better than the average Pope candidate but not woke Pope. He's definitely part of the afrancis faction and his anti LGBT stuff was a single comment 15 years ago.
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Still better than most of the others (the better ones were Tagle and Zuppi). I think this came as a compromise between the US catholics and the Latin Americans + Progressive/Liberals catholics
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he's a catholic priest, which means he's either a pedophile who should be executed, or a pedophile defender who should be executed. there's nothing else you need to know
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all priests are bastards
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I'd wait for Magnificast or Know Your Enemy to drop a podcast on him.
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Hes the pope, don't expect much
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The tradcaths are malding or doing some “well I’m going to reserve judgement” cope. It’s the Catholic Church it was never going to be good. But it seems like he’s pretty much just some milquetoast lib, less progressive than Francis but not the worst guy.
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The tradcaths seem confused about what religion they belong to. You don't like the pope? Tough shit, the cardinals pick the Pope, not the laiety. Oh you wanna really be trad and go back to papal selection from pre-1059? Ok then the current Pope picks the next one, or the King of Bohemia or whoever picks the Pope. You don't meaningfully participate. Deal with it.
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"reserve judgement" yeah they better. Better reserve it forever. They're not even ordained. Who gave them them the idea they could interpret religion. Buncha protestant-ass invaders.
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If he doesn't talk about gaza I'll hate him anyway
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I hate the fucking American media! I found an article but it was a super-lazy garbage job by the reporter. At the very, very end there was this tripe.
While Prevost is seen overall as a centrist, on some key social issues he's viewed as progressive. He has long embraced marginalized groups, a lot like Francis, who championed migrants and the poor. But, also like Pope Francis, the Illinois native opposes ordaining women as deacons, for instance, so on that point he's seen as conservative on church doctrine.
"Progressive" is a word that hardly has any meaning in the US. And that's quintuplely true for somebody like the pope. So - he's not in favor of death camps for the homeless - I guess.
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he publicly rejected Vance's defense of Ordo Amoris -- that's something. but doesn't appear that he's a liberation theologian or anything.
and as @funkystuff implies, taking the name leo suggests probably a renewed articulation of Catholic social thinking.
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he publicly rejected Vance's defense of Ordo Amoris -- that's something.
As a filthy pagan, what does this mean?
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bro the world will be a nuclear wasteland before there's a liberation theology pope.
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https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/05/08/pope-robert-prevost-lgbt/
However, The New York Times reports that in 2012, Prevost was critical of entertainment media that held “sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel,” including the “homosexual lifestyle” and “alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children.”
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Your basic milquetoast lib was still anti-gay marriage in 2012. That was the year Obama completed his “evolution.” Wonder if this guy has undergone a similar “evolution” on this topic in the years since. This was also pre-Francis. Not that I expect him to be extremely pro-lgbt or something, but a lot has changed since then and in many other respects he seems like a milquetoast lib.
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from what i've seen? radlib pope. he has a twitter and a blog i think if you want to see his thoughts as he writes them.
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same or worse than francis?
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He's to the right of Francis overall. But he's to the left of the dems mostly on the poor, but to the right of them on some social stuff.
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More moderate and fluent in church legalese (doctorate in Canon law and part of the Roman curia), so he has an investment in working within the establishment and caring more about process than about outcomes. While Francis was more of a "fuck around and find out" pope, in that he would say random shit as doctrine and let his aides figure out how to make it work within the church, this guy will spend much more time and energy making sure the ts are crossed and the is are dotted.
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less lib than francis but pretty much the same thing
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Hey that prediction became true! A mild conservative who will likely struggle with elements in the papacy in his early reign, who predicted to become pope.
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I just KNOW he throws down at Giordano's
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His Wikipedia page seems to be pretty much useless.
Criticism
Prevost has faced criticism from advocates for clergy abuse survivors regarding his handling of sexual abuse allegations during his leadership in the Augustinian order and in Peru. The advocacy group SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests) has alleged that Prevost may have failed to act against abuse claims involving Richard McGrath, a former president of Providence Catholic High School, allowing him to remain in his position despite longstanding accusations.
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Something about the mild-mannered phrase “has faced criticism” triggers a primal rage within the depths of my being
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Lenin, who previously had faced criticism for distributing illegal revolutionary literature, has now joined the editorial board of Novaya Zhizn.
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Wikipedia claims that in his capacity as head of the Augustinian order he refused to remove an SA priest from his position. I have no idea if that is true but I can confirm at least that said SA allegations against that priest are true:
https://patch.com/illinois/newlenox/providence-ex-president-dismissed-order-whereabouts-unknown
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