Elon Musk is responsible for “killing the world’s poorest children,” says Bill Gates
Elon Musk is responsible for “killing the world’s poorest children,” says Bill Gates
Sounds more like someone has seen the world turning on the worthless shit that are billionaires NOT that someone has seen the light and wants to make the world a better place...
Well he can't exactly kill the world 's richest, can he? Its a stronger indictment about the risks of wealth inequality than about the morality of the rich.
No need for envy. He owns enough farmland that he can easily top Musk by rising prices to let many more children starve to death.
Pretty sure he doesn't care
Or he considers that a good thing.
Which makes him a darkest evil soul
Lmao Bill Gates ......you can save them you got 100s of billions as well
Gates, 69, on Thursday announced plans to spend virtually his entire fortune over the next 20 years, during which time he estimates his foundation will spend more than $200 billion on global health, development, and education against $100 billion over the previous 25 years. The Gates Foundation will close its doors in 2045, decades earlier than previously envisaged.
Yeah sounds like he's trying
Remember there are no good billionaires. No amount of "good" they do will ever be enough.
Why can't we be better?
Yeah, but that's why it's great to see them fighting each other. Nobody else seems able to do it better.
Fighting lol.......
Sure, but Bill Gates is as benign as it gets.
He’s an Edison, he’s a Carnegie, he’s a Rockefeller. He’s a robber baron like countless before and that on its own is enough of a condemnation.
Dude single-handedly ruined many, many foss and other software projects because he couldn’t buy, bully, or otherwise get obscenely rich from. He would use windows’ reach to kill projects. “Windows ain’t done until wordperfect won’t run”
He played dirty to get his money and now that he’s “won” and has enough money for his family to be generationally wealthy for ever he’s donating amounts that don’t cut into his oligarch lifestyle. Guess he hired a good PR team though, cuz everyone seems to forget what he did to get so filthy rich.
Not to jump down your throat over it - I just hate that he’s managed to erase the shitty things he’s done by donating the money he got by doing shitty things.
Just not being as bad as Elon doesn't mean he isn't bad. It's like saying that alcoholic drunk asshole husband who beats his wife and kids isn't as bad as Ted Bundy. It isn't contest.
Cool story, Bill. Who did you donate to? Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing and coopting government for years? Bill isn't innocent in all this, it's just a good time to blame Elon. Don't get me wrong, Elon 100% deserves it, but that doesn't mean that Bill isn't playing the PR game here.
Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing
The problem is that billionaires should not exist but come on. $80 billion already donated. $7 Billion more just for Africa. Hundreds of millions in malaria research.
Could he do more? Sure. But attacking someone who is doing a little because he isn't doing more doesn't seem fair.
Years ago Elon said he was disappointed when he met Bill Gates because Gates only wanted to talk about philanthropy and climate.
This is the way. If classical conditioning reliably alters human behavior, we know negative conditioning against the 0.1% will indeed work, but never as well as positive reinforcement. It’s only for lack of opportunity to reward the good that we resort to punishing the bad, so when opportunities to use positive reinforcement present themselves, jump on them!
Concretely, if tomorrow the wealthiest of the world became avid philanthropists like Gates and divested as much as he has, the impact would be singular. It would feel like the first daybreak in human history. We’d still need to fix the systems that gave us monsters, but the friction preventing necessary reform would vanish. Encouraging this behavior is absolutely correct. Disregarding this behavior in order to exact personal vengeance makes it ever more unlikely to occur.
Thank you for your forward-thinking, non-reactionary contribution.
Edit: moved postscript
The problem is that the theft begins by simply becoming a billionaire in the first place. You don't get to be one by playing nice and not exploiting a lot of people and rules along the way. Sure the government could be blamed some for not having enough regulations in place to prevent/stop that, but capitalism ensures that businesses exploit any available loophole possible to maximize profit, otherwise you're a bad business.
While I can respect a lot of those philanthropic efforts, those should not be his decisions alone to make. That money should've been paid into taxes and distributed in agreed upon ways. $7 Billion dollars to Africa is just great, but it could do a lot of help here, too. I have no issues with sending $7B to Africa, but that sure seems like something the people should agree upon first, through some sort of national aid, and not as an effort to spare the conscience of an aging billionaire.
Fuck all billionaires. Every. Last. One. Forever.
Gates has history of lawsuits against open source projects. And he actively donates against any real systemic change. For example he has invested heavily in carbon capture technology which is useless to making impact to climate change.
I resist the urge to become a billionaire every day.
I’ve allowed trillions of dollars to continue circulating in the global economy, undisturbed by my whims.
I’m a goddamn philanthropic hero compared to Gates.
And you can tell I’m better than him, cuz I didn’t have to slap my name on a “Foundation For Leaving People The Fuck Alone” to do it.
Wrong place for “both sides the same”. Sure, any of us could do more, and billionaires could do a lot more, but you're equating a Nazi cutting entire government programs to aid the most vulnerable here and abroad, with a billionaire who has donated a significant portion of his personal wealth to aid humanity, including eradicating diseases
Nah, I saw a year or two back that Bill was pulling back from his climate and disease philanthropy. I think this is just him jumping on a chance to do some PR by dunking on Musk.
Why did Bill fly on Epstein's Lolita Express?
Surprised I had to scroll so long for this article. This is probably the best example (recent history too) of Bill's actions killing kids.
I'm still glad he called Elon out. Let them fight.
So are you Bill. You utter piece of shit.
Fuck all Billionaires
"I haven't killed as many kids in so short a timeframe," is the implication here.
I’m out of the loop.
I’m not down with hoarding of wealth or the shit software he’s made, but what are the allegations against Gates? (The legit ones, not the “he’s putting microchips in Covid vaccines” shit)
Gates has history of lawsuits against open source projects. And he actively donates against any real systemic change. For example he has invested heavily in carbon capture technology which is useless to making impact to climate change.
During the pandemic, he crippled COVID-19 vaccination efforts in the global south by pressuring Oxford not to open source their vaccine.
https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-world-loses-under-bill-gates-vaccine-colonialism/
Just imagine a World where ALL governments, ALL schools of all countries did not have to pay a fee to the then world richest man.
Imagine if a fraction of those governments invested instead on infrastructure, both physical (imagine literal bridges going to schools) and software (as some are doing now) or better paid teachers. Imagine that some of that money would be invested in Linux, gcompris, etc.
That's the genuine cost of Gates wealth.
Think I'm a "communist" for thinking that? Well I guess then the American DoJ is on that boat too because the 2001 antitrust law case was a landmark, not a matter of my opinion.
So... yes, he's a billionaire who did donate a lot of money, but how did he get that money in the first place? It wasn't his to donate to.
Yeah this just seems like a troll or argument for the sake of argument. It’s just too preposterous an argument
Did Melon discover Lemmy?
Motherfucker met with Epstein multiple times. That should be enough to say he is just as bad as Elon.
He is also buying up farm land for pennies on the dollar for himself. His education reform was such a painful failure we continue to pay for it. The gates foundation thought they knew mkre than educators and spent a shit ton of money to run an experiment."aimed at making teachers more effective" my ass. How do you make people more effective when you don't listen to their needs? Time and time again bill turned educators away or straight up didn't listen to them when they expressed concerns. Kinda reminds me of doge raiding the department of education now that I think about it. Bill just fucked shit up in a more clean non obvious manner.
He continues to hoard his wealth and placate everyone with his "i am going to donate a lot, don't worry fellas" statements. Bill why are you waiting til 2045 to donate $200 billion? Why not fight elon now if you are so worried? Because he isn't.
He is evil just like the rest of them. He has just done a better job at reorganizing the skeletons in the closet over the years to stop people questioning.
I bet they both taste bad.
I’ll try anything tho.
I was promised Bill Gates would give me 5G’s with a vaccine.
He's right
In the sense that it's two Spider-Men pointing at each other
Yeah when musk does as much as gates has done for Africa then maybe they'll be comparable
They are way poorer than the ones I'm responsible for - Bill Gates
Dang Gates looks old.
Musk is doing other things. He's a mass polluter having launched thousands of rockets each burning a shit load of fuel, distributing heavy mentals into the statosphere, q and punching holes in the Ozone layer.
Got banned for saying this on Reddit . Also uhh fuck you Billy boy
Uh oh! That's TERRORISM! if Bill Gates DOESNT want to be a Terrorist MAYBE he should Shoot up a School INSTEAD!
like that time bill gave mone to warren buffet for "investment". warren buy cheap food in africa, food price soar, kids die, melinda foundation to the help, bill begging for nobel peace award.
anyway, americans are just greedy pigs no matter what. even if they drown in money to hang out with epstein to abuse children they scumbag as much as possible.
bill gates maxed out the harm to children; starving them in africa, abusing them on epstein island.
get fucked americans!
I mean... Bill Gates was on the eugenics hobby horse of "Brown countries are having too many children" for decades before this. His original foray into West Africa was about forcing contraception on people in order to curb their population growth. The revelation that vaccination reduced infant mortality and lead to local women no longer feeling like they needed to have six kids and hope two survived was a happy little accident of history.
The irony is in how Elon and RFK Jr's war on vaccinations is a Dark MAGA Reflection of this philosophy. They've embraced eugenics from the white side of things, by buying into revanchist Alpha Male / Survival of the Fittest pseudo-science and concluding high infant mortality is some kind of longtermist beneficial genetic selection scheme.
But it bares remembering that both of these billionaire personality cults came out of the Jeffery Epstein / Steven Pinker influence peddling project. The Gates Foundation is ultimately focused on patenting and rent-seeking high end medical technologies to state governments in exchange for lower mortality rates - effectively ruling the Global South through economic extortion. The Musk/Thiel Network State project is focused on explicitly segregating the population into In-Groups and Out-Groups, with the intention of forcibly breeding Alpha Male Humans to dominate the Global South militarily.
Neither of these two groups is benefiting The World's Poorest Children. They're just arguing how to force poor people into subsistence level wages on industrial plantations - via the Velvet Glove or the Iron Fist.
And yet that’s also not the same. Yes, many impoverished countries are stuck in a cycle of poverty by overpopulation and too high a birth rate. Yes, helping them control that goes a long way toward helping them to help themselves. No, not eugenics
impoverished countries are stuck in a cycle of poverty by overpopulation
That's simply not true. Countries with large populations regularly produce enormous quantities of materials and offer professional services that post-industrial consumers pay high prices to access.
The problem isn't the size of the population but the share of revenue received by the people doing the work.
Diamond miners in Nigeria and Congo and South Africa aren't getting anywhere near the face value of the rocks they dig up. Call center workers and IT professionals in the Philippines and India are getting a tiny fraction of the rate their employers charge. Textile workers seeing pennies on the $100 when they output luxury apparel.
Yes, helping them control that goes a long way toward helping them to help themselves.
No. Charging them through the nose for medical technology is what's hurting them.
