Appliance Makers Are Fighting the EPA’s Reported Plan to End Energy Star Labeling
Appliance Makers Are Fighting the EPA’s Reported Plan to End Energy Star Labeling
Of course they are! They've engineered their appliances to get the energy star label. If that label disappears they lose their investment because that label will no longer be there to quickly distinguish the efficient products.
Yup. Trump also removed the requirement limiting the amount of water a toilet can use to flush and no manufacturers cared. They already changed their designs and factories to produce efficient models. Why would they change it all just to make stuff that's worse?
Plus who knows what the requirements will be in four years, maybe energy star will be reinstated?
At this point, it’s probably wise not to count on the “in four years” idea that Trump will willingly step aside and allow someone else to be President. And even if we get lucky and he dies before that time, his successor is much younger and just as emboldened as Trump.
To paraphrase the old saying, “Hide yo kids, hide yo couch!”
The inefficient models will be unsellable outside of the US, and the efficient models from elsewhere will be unsellable in the US due to tariffs.
So basically the US will have inferior goods like the Eastern block and its Trabants.
They argued that ending Energy Star labeling would go against Trump’s stated goal of bringing down energy prices.
Haven’t they learned anything? Just because Trump says he wants to do something does not mean he’ll do it. Most especially anything beneficial to anybody but him and his entourage of cock suckers.
Ok. Let's talk a out this for a moment.
A fridge brand new in 1985 cost about 85 dollars a year in energy now a fridge costs about 45 a year. A YEAR. The savings is absolutely negligible.
And I understand that over a large population that small amount of savings is quite large. The thing is the standards for these types of ratings is... Questionable at best.
For example on a washing machine they conserve water by filling the tub with less water several times which in turn works out to be more water over time instead of just one fill.
The energy star rating sticker is there for marketing and nothing else. It helps sell the appliance. Thats all.
TIL that a ~50% improvement in energy use is 'absolutely negligible'.
I agree that the energy star system may be flawed but the premise of your comment is wild.
He's using Maga-nomics. Real numbers don't mean anything
85 dollars spread over the course of 365 days is .23 cents a day. 45 dollars spread over 365 days is .12 cents a day. Omg. A whole .11 cents of saving in energy costs. Whoopdy doo! But yes if you turn it into a percentage that number seems way way bigger! 50% savings! A whole 40 bucks a year!
It's funny because energy costs is just one small aspect of refrigeration.
Did you know that fridges made in the 80s and 90s leaked far less freon than ones made in the last 10 years?
The environmental impact of modern refrigeration is staggering compared to that of about 40 years ago.
Got a source to back those claims up?
Are those dollar values normalized to the same year?
You going off data or just vibes, because the only thing here that feels questionable at best is your post.
20+ years in the appliance repair industry.
In the 1970s a residential clothing washer would run for about 40 minutes at the max setting pulling 120 volts and 5 amps. Albeit they used more water to clean the cloths faster.
A modern front load washer now runs for about 2 hours for a regular wash at the same 120 volts and 5 amps. Although we are saving water we recycle anyway....
If the energy star rating is not there, manufacturers have no incentive to try to qualify. Likely it is cheaper to cut corners that make appliances less efficient. So, they'll do that and consumers won't have a way to easily know that they did. We may see the 1985-tier fridge energy use again.
My bet is that consumers still care because it equates to dollars, so either the manufacturers will advertise it themselves, raitings websites will measure it as part of their assessment, or some non profit will pop up to do it.
The energy star organization isn't dictating how much energy manufactures have to make their appliances use federal mandate is.
The law is actually dictating how much energy they should be using and they get more and more stringent every year from Congress.
The energy star rating is nothing more than marketing. The same as the better Business bureau they serve no actual function.
Is that in 1985 dollars or inflation adjusted?
No because appliances have become more efficient since then costing less energy to use.
My point is is that efficiency is negligible.
Have you heard of a little thing called the environment? Not everything is about money.
That's funny.
Although to be fair the change to r600 freon was a very good step. All they have to do is improve the reliability of those compressors and we're golden.
Source?