Rubio condemns German intelligence’s decision to classify far-right party AfD as extremist

"American Nazi Party Leader Condemns Foreign Government for Classifying Nazis as Nazis"
- They are certainly not nazis. The Nazis were organized and not lazy. The Nazis actually believed their own bullshit. The Nazis had intelligence and cunning. Trump has none of these things. He is the dumbest laziest dictator the world has ever seen.
  
  Don't believe nazi propaganda about those things. They were largely inefficient and disorganized, they just predated others to fuel their goals. It's one of the economic reasons for waging war on everyone: once you use up your local stolen wealth, you gotta raid other people's. Nazi organizational structures were famously broken, with different redundant levels of political control pitted against each other, in line with social darwinist ideas.
  And by far not all Nazis were true believers. Tons were "merely" playing along, because they thought they'd get something out of it. They often did, with the wealth of previously Jewish owned (and other) companies being handed to people close to the leadership.
  These are parallels, not contrasts.

Note to the world, if Trump or his cronies condemn you for something, you're doing the right thing.
- My first thought when I saw the headline!
  BTW, the AfD immediately complained to JD Vance and asked him to do something. That's going to backfire hard.
  
  I don't know if they understand that their close association with Trump & Musk made the classification extremely easy, politically.
  They are historically unpopular and they are dragging all their allies down with them.
  
  Can we just fucking pass the "I'm rubber you're glue" law already which would make any stupid fucker instantly shot out of a cannon directly into whichever capitol building near them if they ever tried to enact any overtly obvious bigoted law?
  I would say that we should deport them, but I would rather we not run the risk.
- What does Lavrov think?
  Same battle :-)

Surprised fascist claims anti fascists are wrong and should stop fighting fascism. More news at 11.

First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won't sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.
Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can't survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.
- This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.
  
  I agree, it's not a fix. However it's also not just "calling them extremist". It's an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.
  The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.
  A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.
  The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.
  Politico
  
  Germany should just ban Xitter. That's where most of this nazi infection is coming from.
  
  It puts some grants for them into question, so less money for the faschs.
- Democracy can't survive if the voting base is too ~~ignorant~~ misinformed to choose its leaders.
  People not knowing enough IS bad for democracy, but the fact that they "know" so many objectively false and harmful things is MUCH worse.
  
  Education allows you to reason about what you're being told and filter out a lot of the bad stuff. It's not perfect, but it helps you spot egregious "facts" and label the speaker appropriately as untrustworthy.
- US social media is the vector for that infection.......
  
  You're kidding right? Far right extremist thought bubbles websites predate social media
- Make political advertisement / political messaging illegal on entertainment platforms. There's precedent for highly regulated TV advertisements, why is there such a broad exception for unregulated manipulative online advertising? Why is cigarette, religious, drug advertising forbidden but political lies and agendas allowed, endorsed even? Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.
  This simple legislation would instantly solve a lot of current issues with what's wrong and protect free, democratic nations.
  
  Just banning Xitter would solve most of the problem, imo Maybe Facebook too.
  
  Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.
  Profit is a bad metric here, they have decades of experience pretending they have no profits. Make it 10% of company value each month.
- Canada conservatives are trying to keep PP alive
  
  Hypocrites the lot of them.
  He has said many times there should be term limits on MPs and low and behold he is parachuting into Alberta just like a good little hypocrite does.
  Imagine someone conservative running against him as an independent and winning.
  That would be priceless. Are there any anti fascists conservatives living in the Battle River area?
- The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
  Agreed. But it seems that the EU is also doing something about that. Just like with AfD, they've been dragging their feet for way too long but now something* gave them a jolt.
  We currently have an interesting success story of Die Linke (proper left-wing party) who managed to garner votes by embracing social media and cough populism in, what seems to be, a Good Way.
- we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media
  Find, then degrade, deny and destroy, the sources of the propaganda, and do the same to the conduits.
- and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
  Nope. I mean it's not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can't fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people's anxieties.
- Yeah you should ban their media, books, speech & lock them up. That'll teach them about fascism alright.
  On a more serious note, all this decision by Germany does is make groups like AfD stronger.
  
  "fight disinformation" =/= " ban their media, books, speech & lock them up"
  You really gave that strawman a good beating though.
  
  You can't fight fascism on the marketplace of ideas. The moment you sit at the table to talk, they spring up and punch you in the face.
  Limiting circulation of fake news, holding those who spread it accountable, and forcing social networks to moderate their platform if they want to operate in the EU, should be the priority.
  
  Nobody's doing this. You're arguing against your own fantasies.
  They broke the law. You're arguing for changing the constitution* to let the AfD continue practicing unconstitutional* politics, because you don't want to make the AfD stronger?
  "Grundgesetz" - close enough
  
  Found the nazi.
  
  You kinda have a point. If we fight fascism using fascist methods, we only empower it because suddenly they feel oppressed. But we do need to fight misinformation. But our polititians are so incredibly tech illiterate.

Yeah no wonder. The administration he's part of is behaving unconstitutionally, so it's only logical he would condemn the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in other countries for doing its job. Can't have that if you want to erode the democratic basic order.

I think the grand plan is to find somebody who messes up Europe from the inside, so that Americans don't notice the difference too much.
- They're not happy with just Hungary, it seems
- Always has been.
- That's what the AfD was for, no? :^)
- Honestly kind of has always been Europe's plan for Europe too so that working class Europeans don't notice either... I say that with love from one dumpsterfire to another.

Is Little Marco Rubio speaking for himself, it is someone playing him like a puppet?

Lil’ Marco can eat a Costco size bag of dicks

lol stfu Rubio. They are a right wing extremist group. Feel free to read the damning evidence over 1000(!!!) pages

Who cares what Reek has to say

Marco Rubio can eat the peanuts out of my shit.
With best regards from a hopefully soon fascist-free Germany.

Tell Marco to keep his ~~brown~~ orange nose out of other countries democracies.

Who the fuck is Rubio and why should anyone care what he has to say about anything? It says he’s the us Secretary of State in the us. Meaning he’s about as unqualified to speak up about it as my pup.
Fuck these dumb idiots who can’t understand the difference between politics and terrorism.
- He is the secretary of state, Acting Archivist for the National Archives, Interim leader of USAID and most recently National Security Advisor.
  
  Basically he's 47 little bitch boy for any job he doesn't care about enough to install one of his white supremacist stooges. Marco is his little dancing monkey, sent to do the jobs he doesn't think are important.
- heres there to make noise when trump and vance needs some backup

Defending violent nazis and rolling back all environmental laws that regarding gas ovens
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-weighing-executive-order-protecting-gas-stoves-sources-say-2025-01-07/
These people have a strange oven fixation. They must want to bake a lot of bread.

Alternate headline: "Demagogue objects to objective reality"

Yes Marco. Yeees. Dance for daddy 47. Daddy 47 won't deport you to CECOT if you do what he says. Normalize fascism globally Marco for daddy 47 and grandaddy KGB potato. It won't get you specifically killed. Not so long as you dance the dance and sing the song, Marco. Never mind that most of the people in CECOT danced the dance and sang the song. Their only crime was looking like you in daddy 47's eyes. But you're different Marco. You're daddy 47's favorite. Sure he's backstabbed everyone who's ever helped him almost immediately. He's gone back on every deal he's ever made. But you Marco. You'll survive. Sure there's no evidence to demonstrate you'll be okay given the totality of everything.

Germany really doesn't care what he feels.

I am sorry I can't hear the tiny little fascist man talking can someone tell me what he is saying his voice is too quiet and squeaky.
For real though, I just feel bad for Micro Rubio, when you make it all the way to the top and everyone still thinks you are a cowardly fascist loser it has to make it painfully obvious how worthless you are.

I was going to say something like "I liked the USA better when it had no clue about foreign politics" but then I realised that maybe that's just because we weren't the target before. Is Europe now part of the USA's definition of Middle East?
- The US actually has an ally (1) in the Middle East, unlike Europe at this point.
  
  Have Israel EVER gone to war with the USA? Every NATO country has stood by the USA as an ally, but Israel is only ever there to put their hands out. They are Takers, not Givers. I wouldn't think of them as allies.

well that just validates this decision

See, this is why he was confirmed unanimously.

Oh no. Anyway.
- Yes, this is not news.

Game recognizing game.

Yes, Classify AfD as extremists.
Because that worked so well with the NSDAP....
(Want to clarify, yes, AfD is bad. I just think we are cooked at this point)