US pulls out of formal peace talks between Ukraine and Russia

Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.
- Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.
  
  Lol, we aren't going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren't rare because they're only located in isolated places, they're rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.
  The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven't invested in.
  The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a "win" when in reality it's not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it's nothing but smoke and mirrors.
  
  Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.
  
  It still needs to be ratified in UA, AFAIK.
  
  It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.
  
  Honestly, from everything I've seen so far, the new mineral deal seems pretty good and fair.

Once again demonstrating how unreliable the American government has become.
It will be a very long time before the international community trusts America.
- Give it a century
  
  Or millenia, if at all...
  
  Username checks out
- The international community should think of the US as an adversary like Russia or North Korea because that is what it is now.
  
  Pariah state is the designation I have started to use.
  
  No, think of the worlds far right sympathizers like that, not all US citizens want this bullshit I sure as shit don't.

So much for ending the war in one day.
- Well, at least the US did remove a giant obstacle to a lasting peace from the war - Trump.
- You should known that our beloved pumpkin pie is working directly with the back of the future crew to locate the actual dolorian used for the films. With the vast plutonium reserves they will send Elon back in time to the moment Putin was borne. He will the proceed to choke that sonobabich: okay let's see this happening:
  88mph.
  The vehicle's flux capacitor is activated.
  The vehicle is at its maximum hyperbolic pressure MHP. That's when the hyperbolae regarding the vehicle is at Ludicrous hypervelocity.
  The tire flames are now converging into the time flux redundonator.
  And he's gone! The sonobabich did it!
  OK now we switch over to the time Harper lapse camera. Let's see Elon locate and choke baby putin. Wait a minute! Is he breast feeding putin? Holy! That is not a breast! No! The humanity! And putin is actually just Elon sucking on his own. Why didn't we see it?!!
  We must send a second dolorian back in time to stop the first dolorian!

Good, the US can fuck right off. Trump is a nincompoop as are his followers. No way they’d be capable of solving a geopolitical conflict.

- Lmao

Ironically, that might be the most useful contribution to eventual peace in Ukraine the US has made for some time now.
Thanks, I guess.

Chalk up another failure of leadership.

Another promise broken. What a loser.
- End the war before even taking office. Kept moving the bar, then eventually just pivoted and pretended there was no bar.
  
  Just gotta stop testing, ya know?

I thought the invasion would end 80 days ago. Trump said so. 🤭🤡🤡🤡

hey look it's almost like Donnie has no idea what to do about anything

And with the US-Ukraine Ressource Deal being singed too. So they bascically Held Ukraine at gunpoint Dekanding all their remaining Ressources while Russia raped them. The US is no longer trustworthy. They now sit Back, while Europe will have to steer the War Into a favorable direction, b/c they have to. If Russia eins or loses does Not Matter anymore for US, b/c they will benefit either way.
- The US is no longer trustworthy.
  And it will take a lot of time and effort from the Americans to regain the trust of the international community.
- I think the mineral deal is for future resources in unoccupied territory. If Russia wins US gets nothing right? So they can't really fully sit back. But I'll admit maybe I'm understanding wrong. The real key is that Trump got bored honestly.
  
  Except Trump is a puppet of Putins, to some degree. So he would Not Care about Russia occupiying Ukraine in any way, because He will still get His Deal. And in the mean time, Europe will continue to buy American Arms, making him and His größter Friends rich in the process. I would Not be surprised If He Starts selling weapons to both Sides.
  
  Not exactly, it's resources in exchange for aid going forward in the form of arms.

A good thing. The orange cancer will side with Russia anyways. Wish more cough all cough countries would turn their backs and say piss off to that addled old twatwaffle.

Putin wouldn't fold. Trump doesn't know how to handle that so he noped out.
- You mean Zelinsky wouldn't fold. Trump never wanted Putin to actually fold.
  
  Zelensky folded. He signed the mineral deal.

What they have basically done is mug a rape victim.

The DealMaker Suivant
- BLOTUS
- L for love!

“We got what we wanted I don’t give a fuck now” - Trump.
- Fortunately for Ukraine, all they really got was a photo OP.
- What did Trump want / get out of it?

The weird thing is that neither BBC,CNN, the Guardian, not my countries newspapers have this news item.
- I was gonna say the same. No other outlet is reporting this (yet) so let’s see
  
  If you can't trust lebedev's newspaper on russian related matters who could you trust?

1 Day

- This is not bad news, well for putin it is IMO.

This was pretty much what Michael Kofman predicted was going to happen months ago. As long as Russia feels that they can prevail militarily and is making maximalist demands based on that, and Ukraine is unwilling to accept those terms, there's not really much room for mutually-acceptable terms.
Even if they got something on paper, that's not likely to translate to a durable peace.
- If the US leadership weren’t idiots, they could have put pressure on Russia to get at least a ceasefire. Instead, they focused on bullying Ukraine.
  
  I don't know how much more pressure can be applied absent direct conflict between the US and Russia, which I don't believe the US will do.
  Almost all US-Russia trade is gone, so not much to take away in economic terms.
  https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
  In 2021, the US imported $29.6 billion from Russia and exported $6.4 billion.
  In 2024, the US imported $3 billion (90% gone) and exported $0.5 billion to Russia (92% gone).
  It might be possible to pressure other countries not to trade with Russia via use of secondary sanctions.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_Russia
  The top party there is China (who I don't think that we're in a position to compel to cut off from Russia).
  There's Belarus, which I doubt is going to be compelled to cut off trade from Russia given the state of affairs.
  The other top countries are all EU members. I mean, we could try and put pressure on them, but theoretically they should be doing this themselves.
  Like, I can understand criticism as to Trump's interactions with Zelenskyy, but I don't think that there's some magic, easy-to-use lever to compel Russia that the White House has in reserve. Maybe weapon supplies to Ukraine are the most-influential left.

Question is: now that we got the big loud bully out of the house, can the EU and maybe someone else who is sensible, like Canada, enter the room and bring actual diplomatic value to this sharade?
- Probably not. Russia's motives dont stem from a communications failure. They stem from predatory imperialist intent, and they arnt scared of the EU or Canada.
  
  If Europe shows resolve, Russia's ambitions will crumble.
- No
  The EU will continue funding Ukraine’s war, allowing thousands of people to die on both sides of the war. And they’ll slowly ease on Russian restrictions if they feel like they need it for economic growth.
  The EU could force Russia’s hand and end this war but it doesn’t seem like they want to
  
  Would you rather we give in to terrorists? Or start World War 3?
  Russia is the bully that could end this conflict any time they want.
  
  Please explain how this would happen?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Does his hand look small?
- Hamster hands.
- If you think it looks small now, you should see it next to his deformed penis.
  
  ... can I not?

Some one got a call from their handler

Such a FLOTUS. It's all lies and empty promises, coated in idle boasting. What a fucking loser.

ART OF THE DEAL, BABY.
Member when he said he'd force them to agree on something within a week or something fucking stupid?
- “Day one” I think it was
  
  Before he was sworn in even. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-trump-promises-to-settle-war-in-ukraine-if-elected
  
  "Before taking office"

Good. Should have never been there to begin with anyway. Peace talks are between the parties engaged in conflict and a peaceful nation for mediation. The US has not been a peaceful nation for some time with regards to being involved in armed conflicts itself.

"Got my mineral deal, fuck you guys, I'm going home"

Good and stay out.

So peace out?

Someone right hook that smug face so they have to wire his jaw permanently.

Need more Russian lolitas to get Trump off the couch.
- there ain't room. gotta get vd off it first.

I don't know what to do as an American, I don't even speak good Russian
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I'm gonna end the war! Wait this is hard, nevermind.
- Remember in the first trump term when he assigned Jared Kushner the job of implementing peace in the Middle East? How's the Middle East peace these days?
  
  Well, nobody knew ~~healthcare~~, ~~middle east~~, Ukraine was so complicated.

”We will continue to help, but we will no longer fly around the world as mediators in meetings,”
Not quite what the headline suggests happened.