US warns EU against excluding American companies from € 150 billion defense initiative which can supply Ukraine with weapons
US warns EU against excluding American companies from € 150 billion defense initiative which can supply Ukraine with weapons
This is the funny part US doesn't stop with the warning, no matter what your action is
Ignore whatever comes after "US Warns".
Treat it how we treat "Russia Warns" - this is probably bad for them and they suck.
What are you going to do about it, losers? You've lost all sway in the conversation with the shit you've pulled. Enjoy the view from your throne of eternal irrelevance that you've built for yourself
Maybe we should just put 50% tariffs to US arms
Rubio warned that excluding American firms from European tenders would be viewed negatively by Washington—an implicit criticism of the EU’s proposed procurement rules.
Oh no! If we don't buy any weapons, they might not want to sell us weapons anymore!
A Nordic diplomat not present at the Baltic meeting confirmed that US officials recently conveyed their concerns, stating that any exclusion from EU arms purchases would be inappropriate.
Yeah, the US has recently done just a few things that "would be inappropriate" as well, so I think we're on good ethical ground here.
Put tarrifs on American made weapons entering the EU.
The European sleeping giant must awaken.
But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
Yeah it's just so nakedly transparent how dishonest their posturing is about Europe not doing enough on defense.
Turns out what they actually meant was "our entire economic system is predicated on infinite unending YoY growth targets, and we've run of ways to grow, so now you all have to start spending more money on feeding this fucking beast we created".
Also this theme of "how dare you take advantage of us all these years" is exactly the kind of talk domestic abusers use.
The US was far from reaching the end of ways to grow, they just have to keep financing universities and public research then load it up to applied science and VC money...
They got rid of research. They are getting rid of universities financing. They are emptying the pockets of VCs.
Oopsy.
They want the EU members to have large armies equipped with american weapons.
So they can turn off those weapons whenever they want?
That the US government can turn off at any time they want.
And then they build in a switch-off trigger so that when their allies, the Russians, and they will attack us - according to the so called Trump-Putin agreement - they can switch off all the weapons.
it's called "racketeering"
Even if a country has a very efficient military, or an ineffective one, "spend 5%!!!".
On USA weapons ofc.
Because spending more needs time to ramp up, relevant, arms production. Or buy from the USA of course.
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No, they want Europe to pay for its own defense. That still would include buying US weapons.
Basically the US was the worlds police until recently. That gave them a lot of global influence mainyl the USD being the global currency. However it also required them to have a massive military and do things like supporting Ukraine, which obviously cost a lot. So they want other reasonable countries to pay for their own defense to keep their costs down. That however always meant still buying US weapons. The problem being that for some like the EU a working defense means less reliance on the US, hence less benefits.
If you need their permission to use the weapons you bought, it sounds a lot like they still are the police and you are only a samaritan that calls them and follow whatever they tell you to do.
Basically the US was the worlds police until recently.
For the most part, only they saw it that way. The very fact that America refuses to recognize the ICC tells you everything you need to know about how good faith their "world policing" actually is.
What they've actually got a history of doing is describing foreign incursions to protect their own economic interests as "police actions" rather than formal declarations of war, in order to ignore various laws and international conventions. America has not been the good guy since 1945.
It would be inappropriate to include US companies after the US has shown itself so unreliable. Also, the US should stop meddling in European policy. Get rid of your fascist regime, and we can talk again. Until then, we'd rather talk to Canada.
We fully support that you want to be independent from us, but you need to buy from us to do it (and still be dependent on us).
Sounds like a an abusive relationship to me
There is still about 100,000 US soldiers stationed all over Europe. It was never about having any sort of equality and mutual respect in that relationship. Previous US administrations just chose to not say this too loudly.
Or what?
Sorry Trump, but it will never be the same again.
Well the US used to be the primary supplier. Until a month or so ago. Kind of brought it on yourself yeah?
I really hope the EU will just cut the USA wherever possible!
Buy EU products!
But maybe Europe simply does not want anymore.
Maybe this monetary "initiative" has been created exactly for this not wanting American weapons anymore.
if the US were interested in the peace of the world and not its own best interests, perhaps this would be a worthy statement...as of now, fuck helping anyone more interested in themselves as opposed to the greater good...this isn't 1650, we are a planet of "rational" beings, not individual races defined by arbitrary borders...
