Rand Paul Fears Trump Tariffs Could Mean 1930s-Style Republican Wipeout: ‘We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years’
Rand Paul Fears Trump Tariffs Could Mean 1930s-Style Republican Wipeout: ‘We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years’
That's how long it will take to rebuild US foreign policy, 60 years. I hope Rand is correct, fuck the GOP.
Regardless, NOBODY will trust another country for its own defense.
"Fuck the people this will harm, what about my political party!?
Rand Paul is educated but not smart. But he's right here, and now there is nothing he or anyone can do about it. I do hope this is the beginning of the comeuppance the GOP so desperately, desperately needs.
We can only hope.
Good. Fucking good. Also fuck with Social Security while you are at it and secure your fucking grave permanently.
These MAGA will just move to their Republican overlords after Trump has died. The real hope would be a split GOP. MAGA/GOP and Dems.
There's no splitting the fascists, they are in it to the bitter end. Getting everyone else to defeat their 20%-30% at best of the population is the only move.
Hopefully! The world would be a far better place. Globally and domestically.
Conservative policies just have their own heads up their asses sucking Trump's rich spoiled cock
Trump has a concept of a cock
Nah.
The civil war resulted in the horribly and completely evil south being knocked out of national political dominance for decades.
That led to the rise of the US as a global super power, including the transcontinental railroad and the progressive movement of Teddy Roosevelt.
Their return to political prominence is accompanied by the fall of America as the greatest hyperpower in human history.
We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years.
I sure fucking hope so, you piece of shit.
What's really happened is we've had our global dominance thrown away. We took the lead because of WW1 and WW2. It's not because we're great. It's not because we manifested our destiny to become the leader of the world. It's because factories in Europe were bombed to smithereens. That's what allowed the U.S to achieve financial dominance. Now we're in the fall.
And the U.S. got all the money to build up their industrial base by the fact that they were they only country able to give out loans to the European nations fighting in the First World War since every european country spent everything they had and then some fighting each other.
World War One represented the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. It was bigger than the economic exploitation by the British Empire of Africa, India and Asia combined. In four years, the U.S. basically held all the cards and (I know this is controversial) only ended up getting involved militarily when it seemed possible that the allies would lose and therefore be unable to pay off their loans.
And you know what...all credit to the Americans; they took that new found wealth and built up the strongest, most powerful industrial base the world had ever seen; an industrial base that, without which, the second world war would have been nearly impossible to win (Russian blood, British Strategy, American Industry...isn't that the saying?)
It's what they proceeded to do with that industrial base afterwards that lead us to where we are now.
From your mouth to Satan’s ears!
I hope we get rid of all these bastards once and for all. Their entire party and platform is and always has been a giant fucking sham that preys on the gullible.
First time ever that I hope Rand Paul is correct. Don't threaten me with a good time Rand Paul!
I hope this leads into demolishing republican party and moving on from the clearly faulty two party nonsense of a system. You can't keep functioning if you're on the verge of becoming authoritarian regime with oligarchs.
What will probably happen is a one or two term slump. What's different between then and now is the internet and social media, which fills most people's brains with a deluge of noise. In addition to the effects of misinformation daily telling people that the moon is the sun, most algorithms prioritize novelty, and nothing's more novel than the most stupidly wrong-headed take. We constantly hear the opinions of people who should be laughed out of the room! We sit and chuckle, but there's tens of millions of people who have poor media skills who it can actually influence.
We may have a perfect storm, so to speak. Economic stupidity will lose them dominance. However, hopefully, by the time they would gain again we'll have a die off of boomers and other retired that come out to vote more now. We'll have a refresh of retired voters. Gen X is coming up. From my small sample of us, we're more Democrat leaning. Hopefully a wider sample size is the same.
Unfortunately GenX skewed way more right than all other generations including boomers in the last election
This depends on what safeguards (if any) are put in place after he's kicked out, and if we're still stuck with two opposing 'teams' that are both purely beholden to the oligarchs.
Germany stayed fascist-resistant for a long, long time. But they were compelled to.
If he actually moves against Canada and/or Mexico and others step in, that could happen again.
This also assumes the outcome of such a move is not in his favor. (which i'd like to think is likely
Reality doesn't matter. People's perception of reality does.
I get what you mean but accurate understanding of reality matters in terms of survival, there is a reason the most elderly groups actually shifted left in 2024 compared to 2020, Covid killed a lot of rightwing anti-mask elderly people.
Further, one's ability and proclivity to vote can also be impacted by their financial situation. And people who ignore reality are perpetually at risk of losing their wealth due to poor planning, bad investments, or even outright scams. Seeing as we are about to hit a major economic disaster this is also going to effect elections in the future.
So things aren't necessarily all bad.
Lets hope!
Oh no!
.... Anyway.
Good. You nazi fucks deserve all the pain that comes to you.
I used to be a swing voter before Trump, after this admin, I will never vote for a Republican again. Especially since most support him.
Guess who is using data illegally gathered from social security to prevent legal voters from voting? If you guessed the king in orange you'd be right.
They have been purging voter rolls all over the country for a long time now. But their methods have vastly improved recently. In the swing states last year they purged 3.5 million voters. In the midterms next year they want to challenge the eligibility of everyone.
Only voters with a passport or original birth certificate would be allowed to vote.
The administration also just enacted task force teams to supposedly ensure election security
Which basically means the people who did election fraud just recently and staged a coup against the government, are now in charge of ensuring that the elections are securely done
... That is the things of dictatorships
I will go to my grave before I support a Republican for anything. I wouldn't vote for a Republican for street sweeper.
I feel the same about both parties. I won't vote for either, ever again
So they get power and do a bunch of shitty things. Then no one wants them in power anymore. Seems the country was doing quite well without them at the helm. Now....not so much.
Trump causes the Republican Party to be on the verge of disappearing
Me: Trump Hero or Villain
Is this sarcasm? The country was doing quite well ... for whom?
I don't think they need to worry, the dems like losing a lot more.
Don't threaten us with a good time...
Really? I don't think your idiot voters will remember for longer than 5 years. And with an opposition like the Dems it'll be easy for you to get back into power. Don't overestimate the Americans. We all made that mistake once.
The optimist angle would be that Trump is secretely a Democrat agent, and that by crashing the stock market he just thinks it's over-valued and wants to return to 2018~ levels.
Optimism at this point is delusion. Today is the official start of the hard times.
Ah what a nice fantasy to cogitate on for a few moments
Republicans should be wiped out. Fools, monsters, and traitors. They've done incalculable damage to the world and all those who live here.
Every Republican that dies should be cause for celebration.
Maybe when the MAGA dorks try to convince us this is short term for long term gain; what they don't realize is ousting the republican stranglehold on the country is the long term gain.
And pray tell why do you not include the Demonrats in your statement? Do you not agree that the Democrats are 100 percent complicit?
Squares and rectangles.
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
All republicans are fools/monsters/traitors, but not every Democrat is. Some are. But not all.
Look, I'm pissed too, I want them tf out of power and I want them to face consequences for what they've done. But celebrating the death of every Republican is more than a little extreme. The top dogs / those responsible? Sure. But let's not go calling for the deaths of our countrymen - who are, tbh, blind fools who've been brainwashed by propaganda. That doesn't make them worthy of death. I'd recommend avoiding turning the heat straight to 100 unless you want to watch our country walk an even darker path in coming years. If you've convinced yourself that's the outcome you actually want - of civil war and all the other fucked up shit that tends to come with war - then you're your own type of blind fool.
I’m sorry. My grandpa taught me the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. He was a smart dude
We don't have to go door to door shooting everyone registered R. The leadership should definitely go up against the wall.
But every person that votes R is voting for climate disaster, unchecked pandemics, rolling back decades of medical science, violence against queer folks and other minorities, and other horrors.
They might not be a comically evil person who kicks puppies and steals candy from babies, but they've thrown what little power they have behind tremendous evil. When that stops, that's a win.
I concede I could amend my previous statement that they don't need to die. We can also celebrate them leaving the party and changing themselves so they're not doing evil anymore.
So, there is a silver lining?!
You put it all on orange and spun the wheel
The Republican party deserves to die for allowing Donald Trump to rise to power. The Democrat party deserves to die for being useless to stop them. America needs a whole new fresh start with new parties
or better yet, no parties at all and force some of our morons to actually learn their candidates beyond just party lines.
Idk, I'd totally be in favor of ranked voting; with several parties that correspond to music genres where people could identify the party's values based on vibes. Ex: Acid Polka Party, Nu Delta Blues Party, Hyper Uplifting Metal Party, etc.
That will never happen.
See, they thought they could control him, like they did Reagan, and Bush Jr. Bush Sr. went along willingly.
But Trump is an overgrown 5 year old, and needs to feel he's in charge. Like any typical narcissist.
We were within 2% of stopping them. If you bastards had got on board, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Or, better idea, no parties like the founders intended
But bruh if u vote for third party, it's a win for Donald Trump bruh.
It literally was.
It needs a new electoral system too.
That was correct. Until the day the voting system changes, voting third party for anything national will be the same as not voting at all as far as results go. This isn't good, it isn't right, but it's the world we live in and the system we are operating under.
It's a nice catch 22 innit
It would be too soon, if we got rid of them and these Corpo Dems. We could remove citizens United and few other worthless pieces of legislation. That and stop this fucking election tampering in the name "stopping fraud" fucking clowns making voting a single day during the work week and these Red hatted goons cheer for this shit like the mouth breathing inbred ghouls they are because they hate everyone else is beyond annoying.
Citizens United wasn't legislation, it was a Supreme Court decision. The only way to fix it following the current rules is to ask the court again or to change the Constitution. Of course, if you are willing to just ignore laws then you have many options (see current Presidential administration for examples).
No. Congress absolutely has the authority to enact legislation that overturns a court decision, even the Supreme Court.
However, the disgusting piles of human shaped filth currently making up the Supreme Court would find some illogical excuse for why said law is unconstitutional. But only once one of there lackeys manages to appeal the issue all the way up the chain. But this process IS utterly corrupt and subverts the Constitution...not like they care. ¯(ツ)/¯
But courts are given authority only to interpret existing legislation; their decisions do not restrict the legislature's authority to enact new laws. Thus the convoluted shit they come up with to abuse the appeals process, as mentioned.
Hawaii was recently successful in enacting state laws to limit campaign contributions. I'd hope that other states willing to tackle the fight could do the same. The biggest chance would be if it could be done in battleground states.
Laws are fake anyway might as well
The court itself is beyond redemption. You and I both know there is only one way out of this
Not sure why you were downvoted for stating facts, guess they hurt someone’s feelings as a certain annoying little gremlin loved to say
Notice how he worries about HIS job... he couldn't care less about the harm to the country or the people
Inshallah
Of course that’s all he cares about. Fuck him, I hope he loses everything he holds dear.
Hopefully the republicans can go the way of the whigs, the democratic party can become the conservative party they so desperately want to be, and we can create an actual party on the left.
I've wanted this for ages. And it's represented so well in Republicans having only one platform: "Oppose Democrats. If it makes a Democrat angry, do it."
Cleanse - and I mean CLEANSE - the opposition party. No one here can claim the Democrats never have good ideas. And yet, we can definitely do better than them. A better party means having better ideas - not just "Stop them libruls". Bernie just toured the States with a message of exactly what that would look like.
I believe the second point of his tour was to make sure everyone knows that AOC is his political heir. He can't keep it up forever.
And whoever that fuckung prick was on the show clearly still defends Trump and says he has the intuition? This dude bankrupted four casinos. Just die already
Good, and we should wipe out the Schumers Pelosis and Jeffries too. Maybe get rid of these goofy ass mega corps
A proto-Mitch McConnell being born
Wants to fill the empty turtle shell.
hes actually from the same state as mcconnel. hes not as smart, or craven as mitch though.
oh no. this guy is Ron Paul's son. Senator from Kentucky like Mitch Mccooonnel, oops
Ron Paul, oh I liked him when I was into hating the DEA the FED and etc.
remember when "audting the fed" was controversial. Elon Musk thought that meant deranged bullshit please, unto me
In a perfect world you will never again be in power. Ever.
"In power"? In a perfect world he'd never again be on this side of a prison cell!!
"During this two-to-five-year period, asserted Bezmenov, what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it."
We are here: attacking Canada, Greenland, Mexico (damaging our economy & theirs, and clearly our foreign relations) Trump also offered to cut defense spending if Russia does. It's all very obvious if you're not in the cult.
Don't threaten me with a good time!!!
Also, it's a wheel. The Cons ruin the economy, voters get mad and vote Democrat, Democrat fixes economy, voters don't like the spending even though it's improving everything so vote Con, the Cons ruin the economy, ect ect so on and so forth
The Democrats get penalized for not fixing it fast enough or good enough.
This could be a super duper long play hustle. Where after 4 years they just lay down and then in 12 years they slip back in and really fuck shit up after the left can't fix anything they have done.
By then AI will be in control, everyone will have elons chip in their brain and president baron will be choking kittens on the Whitehouse lawn to a stadium crowd while hologram kid rock plays the classics.
Look out for project 2037 mark my words
That's the same everywhere, not just the US.
The right destroys what the left/center build so the left/center rebuild it and then the right destroys it again.
Yeah, I find it kinda funny that the "great again" era that is constantly referenced is actually this era of loosing the House and the Senate that is specifically being refrenced now. Mate, you can't have it both ways; do you want the house and the Senate and the House or do you want it to be "great again?"
This is so true it hurts to read it.
I wish American Voters had memories longer than 4 years. But they don't.
They got pissed at Bush and the Republicans in 2006 for the war and in 2008 for crashing the economy.
And 2 years later in 2010 they voted in a red wave not seen since reconstruction.
Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government and 4 years later they gave him another chance. If Trump shot a crowd of people on 5th avenue the kids of the victims would vote for him 4 years later.
Keep in mind that the voting system itself is rigged. States with lower populations tend to have more representation per capita due to the Electoral College. This biases everything towards red states.
And that doesn't even get at the decades of gerrymandering...
EC needs to go away, too.
There were massive voter suppression campaigns in both those election cycles. And it doesn't help that the neo Liberals highjacked the democratic party, marginalizing labor. People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.
People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Neoliberals and centrists need to get this through their firewall of condescencion towards leftists, no matter how much y'all hate leftists (and laugh at leftists with your more conservative friends) you need to understand the average person in the US hates you and your leaders far more than than they hate genuine leftists that actually fight for the working class instead of spitting on them and publicly calling them stupid.
Democracy will not save us. People that won't vote unless they fall in love can fall out of love much more easily.
Do vote, it's low effort and it can make a marginal difference. Just make your plans assuming you party will lose and if they win they will disappoint.
And they have the gall to say they're voting that way "for the economy"
Your treating this as if the same people are voting different ways. It's usually much more along the lines of voters staying home one election and voting in another.
Edit - autocorrect got naughty!
I was wondering when he would pop his Rational Self-Interest head up. He's been uncharacteristically silent for a while, not performing his usual contrarian stunts for attention. He was smart enough to keep his head down for this insanity.
But when something threatens his money, he'll be there.
Man if only he could like vote to get rid of them or something. too bad he's literally powerless and can't do a thing to stop this. /s
He did vote against the Canadian tariffs actually. It'll pass anyway though.
for the 2 decades, mitch mcconnel had the senate gop under his thumb
Don't threaten us with a good time, you POS russian hack. Can't believe I liked your dad at one point.
i think he was one of them that visited MOSCOW to thank lavrov in '19 during INDEPENDANCE DAY.
Yeah, that made my blood boil. Specifically after hearing then screaming that Russian influence is "fake news" for like a year or two by that point.
Notice that's their top concern. Not hurting Americans, not pissing off allies, not a recession, not handing off the title of World Superpower to China, but losing their jobs is their top concern.
*losing power over others not just theor jobs
not handing off the title of World Superpower to China
They put in the hours. Maybe they've fucking earned it. But if it makes you feel any better, most of the BRICS are rocketing upwards and positioned to match or eclipse the US by the end of the century. That's just what happens when you implement modern industrial policies under a more egalitarian social system. Spreading the wealth engages more of the population in high value productive activities that benefit the national economy in the long run.
After you've built a broadly productive economic engine, the only thing holding you back is the size of your productive population. At that point, policies like universal health care and efficient mass transit really start paying dividends.
It's not like they needed us to fumble in order to take the trophy, but all the same we didn't need to just hand them the ball and walk away.
Both you and Mitch McConnell are the reason he's here
I might be excited if the Dems would do anything with their power.
If the 1920s really are repeating then, if we survive the Trump administration, we've got a modern version of the New Deal on the way.
And then an epic ass-whooping - only this time on the receiving end since we're the baddies now.
Just give me high speed rail, dude. I want high speed rail SO BAD.
🤨
They'll give the rest of the world a breather which will allow us to finish forming a new economic and strategic structure where the United States plays a substantially diminished role. After that it won't matter whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power; at least not to most of the world.
They'll help the rich as usual, how do you think we got here?
What power? You fuckers didn't vote them INTO power
Clearly you didn't read the headline. Or reading comprehension isn't your strong suit
…then fcking impeach, you imbecile…
It's nothing but talk for these AHs and trying to save face. Besides it's not like if DJT is removed that we'd fair any better. We'd have couch fucker to contend with and he's just as bad.
He doesn't give a shit about the mass starvation, shantytowns, global economic depression, and rise of Nazism into the largest war in human history that left hundreds of millions dead. No, he's worried because his party wasn't in power.
Fuck yourself with the largest, sharpest cactus that exists on the planet, you slimy, snivelling pathetic excuse for a fucking human, Rand Paul.
I'm like, wait, what happened in the 1930s that meant the wipeout of the republicans and what happened in the next 60 years?
Oh yes, an overinflated market crashed during the republican presidency, the burst ignited by the proposal of a tariff increase law, made to shield American industries and that was actually signed into law and significantly worsened the great depression. This pretty much caused the rise of Nazism in Germany and WW2
What happened then in the next 60 years? Oh yeah, the US won the war and became the biggest world superpower, the economy boomed and you had pretty much the most prosperous time in America's history.
Maaaaybe a republican wipeout isn't that bad now, is it?
Oh no, what if democrats gain power and give us all healthcare and actually take care of the sick and poor. Wouldn’t that be terrible?
The largest war in human history, so far...
He doesn't have a party, he follows money and his popularity with his crazy fuckin base. The Republican party bought him just like they bought Reagan and I'm still not sure how anyone could be fooled by the exact same playbook.
I read your first paragraph as a prediction of the future, until l realized that you were talking about the Great Depression and WWII.
"Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it" is supposed to be cautionary, but MAGA sees it as a game plan.
Make it so.
Sure is telling that his biggest worry is republicans losing power and not the sort of fucking depression that was the cause last time.
I guess I'm glad he thinks that elections will still matter.
Don't worry Rand Paul, your masters control the news and social media so it won't happen. They'll just keep a majority of people in an illusionary dream world.
Should have thought of that before hitching up to a lunatic.