Why plans are already in motion for a Trump third term – no matter what the law says

Fucking hell guys we haven't even made it to 6 months of this term. I doubt we will survive him running a third term. If we don't rise up we aren't going have a country in 4 years. Shit musk kids are about to break social security altogether canceling everyone from getting their checks. Just think what happens when that done. How much money are they going steal? Also they are floating selling all our gold on bitcoin. Just other way to rob us blind.

Russia is going win the cold war after all and America will be a backwards disease filled shit hole. Speaking ot which with RKJ in charge we going watch measles and other preventable disease spread across the country like a plague. Of course sure we will also go to war with rest of the world with Trump threatening all our allies.

America is done, what matters 2028. We got to make it through 2025 and that going be tough enough.

Was it Puerto Rico that he called a shithole country? Must have been because they have too much order and too little corruption.

All the blue states will be in open revolt by then.

The only reason they aren't now is because they are following the Constitution, even if the Donvict won't.

The law will be no more than "two consecutive terms" so no.

That’s assuming he doesn’t install yes-men to all important positions in the government.

Good thing we haven’t seen any signs of THAT happening yet. /s

Without a constitutional amendment, it’s not going to happen.

Do you think the Constitution is a magical, sentient, self-enforcing entity? If the people entrusted with enforcing the Constitution are unable or unwilling to do so, the Constitution is just a really old piece of paper.

Even the secret service will intervene, following the orders of the legitimate president over Trump.

The same could be said for the media, our politicians, our universities, etc. Every institution that people said would hold the line against this kind of autocratic takeover has opted to roll over and play dead instead.

Even if there is no election, the 25th amendment continues to operate, and there is still a valid line of succession. Trump’s and Vance’s terms end in January, 2029. Trump is out.

See above. If your statement were true, then we wouldn't even have a President Trump because the 14th amendment would also have continued to operate and disqualify him from even running. But instead they just handwaved the 14th amendment away as unenforceable (read: Inconvenient). Someone has to actually invoke the 25th amendment, and Trump has purged anyone with the authority to do so.

Plus, the 25th amendment is intended for Presidents who are functionally unable to perform their duties. Coma patients. Severe stroke victims. Medical conditions. Stuff like that. And in case you don't know, even if someone does try to invoke the 25th, all Trump has to do is basically show up and say "I am able to perform my duties" under his own power, and the invocation is automatically nullified.

Trump is a functional moron, and is terrible at the job, but he meets the minimum standards to remain in power under the 25th amendment. It's not supposed to be an out against Presidents who do the job badly, it's supposed to be a remedy for those who are physically unable to do the job at all. Trump does not meet that criteria.

Without an election, all House seats would be vacant, so there would be no Speaker. The line then goes to the President pro tempore of the Senate. Since only 1/3 of Senate terms expire in any election year, there is still a functioning Senate. It can select a “President pro tempore of the Senate”, who is 4th in line for the Presidency.

If there is an Electoral College, its votes cannot be certified by a non-existent House of Representatives, which means a president cannot be selected. However, the Senate certifies the EC votes for the Vice President, and/or selects the Vice President if the votes cannot be certified for some reason.

With either the senate-selected Vice President, or the senate-selected President pro tempore of the Senate, there will be a non-Trump president in the White House in January, 2029.

If we're at a point where Trump suspends elections, none of this would apply any longer. Who remains in power would be dictated by who's currently in power. Again, the Constitution is not a magical self-enforcing document. If the people in power are unwilling to enforce it, it becomes a really old piece of paper.

I couldn't help but notice a lot of those arguments are based on procedures described in the constitution, a document which is strangely being ignored a lot lately.

Personally I doubt he will get a third term, but its certainly possible, and he will almost certainly try.

States elect the president; they put him on the ballot. If he tries to do something unconstitutional, he won't be on the ballot in many states. And the Democrats may control the House. The Senate (or all of Congress) can try to discount returns from those states, but at that point we're looking at a Supreme Court case, and everyone involved will know that if that's ruled poorly, there's a good chance it'll result in the dissolution of the republic, and war.

In other words, it's very unlikely. But a lot can happen in four years.

Don't be a soft target. Buy a gun. Learn how to use it.

I'm assuming he will just run as VP with Vance or one of his sons as President, but still functionally serve the same role.