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How Quickly Would Elon Musk Have Been Fired If He Worked in the Private Sector?

That seems like a good question to pose about the person who is leading up the “Department” of Government Efficiency (DOGE). After all, it would be reasonable to expect that a government agency committed to increasing efficiency in government would go about its work in an efficient manner. It would be pretty hard to make that case about DOGE.

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In case y'all forgot:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-elon-musk-fired-from-paypal/
He failed at leading a "take everyone's money" company, where all you had to do was sit there and let everyone give you their money.
- PayPal legit has the perfect capitalistic corporate service.
  You tell people that they'll act as an escrow for eBay. With no other options people use it. They tell people that they are "like a bank" but tell regulators they aren't a bank. They have policies that say that they can take your money for any reason or no reason. Work with eBay so that they HAVE to use PayPal in order to complete the sale.
  They are fucking evil geniuses.
  
  They figured out that regulations don't matter if you just ignore them pretty early.
  
  I was an eBay power seller in the early 2000s, and it was becoming pretty lucrative, enough that i was considering making it my main gig, but PayPal ruined it.
  Multiple times i would log in to find my online store suspended for some period of time, once for an entire month. There was no explanation, just a suspension. And they don't just turn off your store, they delete it entirely, so i would have to rebuild the store from scratch, relisting every item, and i had over 200 items.
  Also, eBay did absolutely nothing about customers who would demand, and get, refunds with no proof of a damaged item. If you gave the crook a bad review, they'd do it back. They could always delete their account and start fresh, but my unjustified bad feedback from crooks would accumulate and lower my score and reputation.
  Ebay and PayPal are two evil entities that deserve each other, and to this day i wont do any business with any PayPal associated business like Venmo.

Without their wealth, trump & musk would be homeless lunatics standing on a street corner droning on about the 'secret state', aliens and all the other crazy things you can come up with. They have no life skills.
- No, Trump would have been a moderately successful used car salesman. He's good at selling shit to idiots
  
  No, he'd be the creepy football dad who went to jail for raping a 15 YO cheerleader
  
  Idk, I saw him hocking Teslas on the White House lawn and it was nothing compared to Randy at the Toyota dealership during Rocktober.
- Instead they're lunatics with power
- Their lack of scruples is a skill in itself.
  
  They're like the fish that have evolved to be able to live by the sewage outfall pipe.

How Quickly Would Elon Musk Have Been Fired If He Worked in the Private Sector?
Yes.
- As in, it would have been so fast people would be asking that [equivalent] question?
  
  As in, he could not possibly have been hired anywhere to perform any job by anyone qualified to be a hiring manager. He's unemployable. All he knows how to do is buy other people's companies and install himself at the top of them.

What creature has the quickest heartbeat?
About half of that time.

Depends, he could have a long successful career in private equity being a short term pumper - that's essentially all he is... someone who lacks the common shame to not bullshit to such an extent that fuckers believe him.
How many years are we away from FSD Elon? Just a few? How many years have we been within five years of FSD? Fifteen? And yet everytime he says it the stock price goes up.

He does work in the private sector, and it will happen, his board of directors will be forced to fire him. It's nearly inevitable at this point.
The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders, and if they fail at that, the shareholders can, and will, sue the company, as well as the board members individually. They have a personal financial stake in keeping him in line, and working to grow the company.
Instead, they allowed him to partner up with the loudest anti-ev voice on the planet, then run around for months behaving like a narcissistic toddler with a chain-saw, tanking the company's global reputation, to the point where nobody is buying Teslas, people are unloading them as fast as they can, and protesters are vandalizing amd destroying them.
All of it was easily predictable, and the CEO is supposed to be an unparalled genius, so he defintely should have been able to predict the results of his unhinged behavior.
There WILL be a shareholder lawsuit at some point, I'm sure law firms are looking into it already. The board will almost certainly have to fire him in order to be able to defend themselves from charges of negligence for letting him run wild and destroy the company image.
- The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders
  No they are not. It depends entirely on the corporate charter, though most are set up that way. Additionally, there are non-profit and not-for-profit corporations.
  The idea that corporations' mission is solely to maximize shareholder value goes back to Friedman and the Chicago spivs. There were corporations for centuries before that bullshit became current.
- In light of the people selling off their teslas, I wonder how easy it would be to put a body kit or something on it so it no longer looked like a tesla?
  
  Possibly, but why throw good money after bad? They are already shitty vehicles that get recalled constantly (the SwastiKKKar has been recalled 8 times in less than a year), and are expensive to repair. The company is tanking, with no recovery in sight, or even appearing to be possible, and will probably be put of business in a few years, even with the inevitable bail out. Then it will become nearly impossible to find parts or repair it.
  Unload that dog while you still can.
- The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders
  No, they are not. I can't believe we are still repeating that BS. If this were the case, no board would pay CEO so much when it's clearly unjustified
  https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/corporations-dont-have-to-maximize-profits
  Tesla's board is filled by psychophants and actual musk family... They recently were pushing to pay him 56 BILLION dollars for his efforts (talk about maximising profit for shareholders...)
  The time to get rid of Musk quietly was about 5 years ago. Now the harm is done, he can quit all he wants but people won't buy these shitty cars because they are objectively inferior compared to competition, people hate Musk around the world and nobody would want Elon to benefit from his stock
  
  Perhaps you would be correct about a normal dispute between a CEO/Board and disgruntled shareholders who want more, but that's not the Tesla situation.
  MuskRat has been behaving recklessly, inappropriately, violently, insultingly, and worse, and the extreme negative reaction from Tesla's current and potential market was easily predictable.
  Whether the law requires that a CEO act to maximize profits, or simply manage the business in the best way possible on behalf of shareholders, MuskRat's behavior has egregiously violated both, leaving both himself and the board greatly exposed to the possibility of a shareholder class-action suit, for any number of reasons.
  With a nearly 60% drop in the stock price (which continues), and a severely damaged corporate image around the entire WORLD (which is probably unrecoverable under the current corporate leadership), both DIRECTLY attributable to his own personal behavior, it is doubtful that the company will even be in business in a couple of years, although HitlerPig will probably give him a bail out.

He has worked in the private sector since the '90s.
- Buying your way into a CEO position is not "work".
- No; he has been an owner in the private sector since the 90s.
- He's not a worker.

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