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Russian agents used risqué pics to blackmail Ukrainian schoolgirl into terror act

tvpworld.com Russia used risqué pics to blackmail teen girl into terror act

The 14-year-old girl planted a homemade bomb outside a police building.

"Ukraine’s intelligence service says it thwarted a Russian plot to blackmail a local teenage girl into blowing up a police building by threatening to make public intimate pictures on her phone."

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2d ago

Russia used risqué pics to blackmail teen girl into terror act

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wouldn't be a problem if humanity hadn't forced 1200 years of sexual oppression that makes you feel like your body is a filthy thing that shouldn't be shared or touched.
then again, look at all the cool kinks we have now because people are forced into insanely creative ways to get their rocks off.
- Blame the west. Precontact most ppls had a pretty liberal view of sexuality
  
  uhm....I'm absolutely certain the Puritans came from 16th century England.
  I suppose your statement is technically correct but I'd argue that you actually meant "American west", not "western world".

This is why we need to end slut shaming. You can't blackmail if there's no shame.
- I have a friend who works as a civilian in Defense. Everyone has to acquire and maintain the highest level of security clearance to keep their jobs, and travel to certain overseas countries is verboten because of the risk of foreign intelligence "honeypots".
  Apparently, a senior engineer took a holiday to China 3 months before retirement and didn't even take the most basic precautions such as keeping quiet about his job and security clearance, so of course he got honey-potted.
  He reported it when he got home and his security clearance was pulled, "No big deal, I'm retiring".
  The Chinese said they'd tell his employer what happened, "Go ahead, I already did", and his wife, "I'm not married". 😂
  
  You know what's awesome? Your friend is literally held to a higher standard than our President and the people he surrounds himself with.
- Having no shame is actually a perfect tool against blackmail. Take for example the former Indonesian president Sukarno. Sukarno was delighted when the KGB told him they had a tape of him having an orgy with Russian flight attendants and asked if he could have some copies. The CIA also tried and failed to blackmail him with (fabricated) sex tapes.
  
  Something similar happened with NHL player Jaromir Jagr. An 18 year old woman threatened to publish photos of herself in bed with him if he didn't pay. His response was that he doesn't care.
  https://thehockeynews.com/news/jaromir-jagr-blackmailed-with-photo-could-not-care-less-about-it

See the proper way to respond to sexually explicit blackmail is a few simple words.
"Thanks for the free advertising!"
On a more serious note, theres never a good reason to comply with blackmail. for example if she did do what they asked. It would have been a hell of a lot more trouble she would be in and also it would unethical as shit.
What scummy people will do theese days sheesh. Stay safe out there!
- That there is never a good reason to comply is almost certainly objectively true, for one has no leverage to force compliance with the relief offered for such compliance. However, I suspect that is nearly an impossible thing to reason through under duress.
  It is like saying there is no good reason to talk when getting water boarded. Well yeah, but like… good luck with holding fast while drowning.

It is kind of interesting how that blackmail tactic becomes less effective as we get older
Now that I'm 44, if they tried that with me I'd rather people see my dick in private photos than go to prison for blowing up a building
When I was much younger and far more insecure I'm not sure how I would have handled it
- I first read your comment saying that you would gather people to see your dick in private and got a chuckle out of imagining you renting out an event space to show your friends and family your frank and beans.
- Hell, some of us make our stuff public on purpose. 'ooh herp derp, look at me, I'm so evil, I'll re-upload all your pictures and videos that were already posted to your [redacted] channel.' please, you aren't hurting me - you're just making me harder. Oooh, so scary, upping the stakes and threatening thermonuclear war? Bitch I'm a millennial. End my existence daddy uwu. Go on, push the button. PUSH THE BU
  (redacted 'cause not the time or place :p)
  
  You reminded me of the attempt by the KGB to blackmail Indonesian President Sukarno by having a bunch of flight attendants have sex with him and planting cameras and microphones to record it
  When he heard they recorded his sexual escapades, he was thrilled and asked for a copy of the recording.
- I would be happy that anyone is seeing my dick.
  
  If only there was an anonymous forum where one could share material like that...
- The problem is this mostly only works on girls. Guys willingly send dick pics.
  
  This is an extremely common scam for both sexes. Guys do not willingly send dick pics to their family members, which is what the scammers threaten them with. College-aged men are the most frequent target if I'm not mistaken.
  
  Ooof mate, are you suggesting that boys can not be extorted? Because some individuals send pics to specific people? And girls do not sense nudes...? What the fuck. How do you even think those pictures came to be?

Hopefully AI will change this. In the future, when anyone claims to have such pictures you can just say it's AI-generated nonsense 🤷
The world will have to go back to actually verifying claims.
We also need to teach our children about porn, damnit! Even if someone posts a thousand naked pictures of you to the Internet it will be lost in the sea of naked pictures. Very few will care or notice and no, future employers won't go looking and even if they hear about it why TF would they even care? You can still do the job.
Anyone who does care that naked pictures exist is obviously lacking moral character and probably needs to re-think what's important in life.
- People already say the same about Photoshop and people already don’t believe them.
  
  The person making claims is the one that needs to provide the evidence. Anyone spreading unverified rumors should be viewed like The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
  In order for a rumor or something like naked pictures to be effective in its purpose of bringing you down or blackmailing you it must cause emotional distress. If you don't take it seriously--or even better, don't give a shit about what random strangers say--it can't have power over you.
  We don't live in tiny, closely-tied villages anymore. A rumor about you may be on the Internet forever but it'll be about as believable as a "hot singles in your area" ad and the likelihood of someone even finding it goes down over time as it gets drowned out by all the other bullshit that exists.
  Even celebrities that are famous for doing stupid shit are finding that nobody remembers their past failings anymore. And they'll have hundreds to thousands of real news articles about their idiocy out there, ready for anyone to read.

Now that is fucked up.
- it's also pretty typical russian behavior
  
  I'm not sure saying its typical of Russians is helpful. I know two Russian people and neither of them are blackmailing kids into performing terroristic acts.
  I'm not defending Russia's government nor the attitudes of many of the country's civilians. I also have my own biases and prejudices that I've been working most of my life to extinguish.
  I just don't think it's helpful to go on the internet and write "typical X, X's are all the same" in essentially any situation.
- That's Russia!

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