Official page on the new EPA.gov, alleging that Biden gave $2 billion in "gold bars" to Stacey Abrams's group, linking to press coverage from some hilariously chosen press

Ironic that a forum about disinfo has some thinking the gold bars, thrown off the Titanic, here are literal.
- I mean the disinfo is definitely leaning into the confusion. I included quote marks, but they did not. I fully expect that Trump or one of his people will announce the story taking it literally, if it gets wider traction (which seems not unlikely.)
  
  Yeah the title is pretty accurate, no blame there. Comments were just amusing.

Credibility for .gov sources is only gonna get worse, it seems.
- That's the point.
- oh man and .gov was the sites I generally could trust. shit
  
  You can trust* .gov sites archived through archive.org if they predate the current administration.
  *for most environmental/health related information, at least
- Sounds like they're trying to find an excuse to take down the EPAs site, and eventually the EPA

jfc, this reads like super low quality seo clickfarm trash. I am horrified that this is anywhere near a .gov site.
- Super low quality seo clickfarm trash is what's running the US government now.
- 2 weeks until it's .Fox instead of .gov
- It reads like a Trump tweet minus the random capslock.

A gold bar weighs 400 troy ounces.
Right now gold is at $2,948.85 per troy ounce.
That's about 1,695 and a half gold bars.
A gold bar weighs 27.4286 lbs, so that is 46,507lbs of gold.
The standard armored car can carry up to 3,000 lbs, so it would take at least 16 armored cars to move that many bars.
I guess my point is that is a fuck load of gold. Where the hell do they think Biden was hiding it? In his guest bathroom?
- And while the title mentions gold, the body of the article seems to indicate it's just money in a bank account? I don't see the gold thing repeated again.
- Yea good fuckin luck storing that much weight
- That's all an armored car can take? My pneumatic pallet jack can hold 5500 lbs.
  
  Your pneumatic pallet jack doesn't hit potholes while going 60 mph.
  
  Your pallet jack can't safely carry that cargo, plus people, at highway speeds, 3-5 feet off the ground. I also assume your pallet jack isn't armored, so you've got to subtract the weight of the armor to get the surplus capacity actually useful for cargo.
  The typical big armored bank truck you see transporting cash is rated at 25,000 lbs, but already weighs something like 13,000 lbs empty. The smaller vans, like what I assume the parent commenter is talking about, probably has to devote a larger percentage of its gross vehicle weight to the actual vehicle and armor.
  
  I find it extremely unlikely that your pneumatic pallet jack is allowed to hold more than 5,499 lbs.
  It's a "max weight" not a "suggested weight".
  But yes, a regular armored van can carry around max 3k and a super-heavy can carry max 9k.
- Trump and Elon found a place for it all, don't worry.
  
  Trump and Elon want to "check" Fort Knox to "see if" the gold "is there", but "oh no" it's "all gone".
  
  Yuuuuge bathrooms at Mar-a-Lago
- Standard wood joist floors are usually only rated for 30-40 lbs/sqft. That is going to be one hell of a big bathroom.
  
  30-40 lbs/sqft.
  ..isn't that less weight/sqft than most adult people put on it?
- I heard it was in the trunk of the car in his garage.
- Biden clearly hides it in his LOCKED garage along with his national secrets and classic cars.
  
  Should have put it in the bathroom. The most secure room in a mansion.

Anyone have a link to the real story this is based on? This page is practically unintelligible. Are the gold bars metaphorical? What the fuck are they talking about?
- Anyone have a link to the real story this is based on? This page is practically unintelligible. Are the gold bars metaphorical? What the fuck are they talking about?
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/20/fort-knox-gold-donald-trump-elon-musk/79314407007/
  They're talking about the gold at Fort Knox.
  "We're going to go to Fort Knox, the fabled Fort Knox, to make sure the gold is there. If the gold isn't there, we're going to be very upset," Trump said, per a C-SPAN recording.
  Now today's update is that "gold is missing" (I use quotes because it's so obviously untrue). And according to Trump it's the Democrats that took it. Always the democrats. Black female ones too.
  As if politicians need to steal gold bars. They receive that as a gift from Egypt as a bribe maybe, but they don't steal from Fort Knox. Makes zero sense. They can just trade stocks with insider info like everyone in congress.
  
  If gold really is missing, the first two places I'd check are Trump's pockets and the Mar-a-Lago bathrooms next to the classified documents.
  
  they're gonna rob fort knox.
  sadly, i did not have that on this month's bingo card. (there wasn't room for it!)
  
  Let’s not forget that all their accusations are confessions.
- The Washington Examiner:
  In the Wednesday video, Zeldin accused the Biden administration of rushing out these funds and said they should remain under the control of the government.
  He referred to the funds several times as “gold bars,” referencing a December 2024 video put out by the conservative group Project Veritas in which a former EPA employee told an undercover member of the group that the administration was attempting to distribute as much of the promised funds as possible before President Joe Biden left office.
  So it's just someone using a metaphor. And shoddy journalism. Wrapping gold bars in quotes does exculpate anyone from shoddy journalism.
  
  So literally just normal government operations that they are trying to spin into some kind of scandal, same as all the other bullshit coming out each day.
- There's a link early on to a separate, earlier page on epa.gov, which is also insane, which makes it clear that the "gold bars" are metaphorical. Someone allegedly said something about "throwing gold bars off the Titanic," some sort of nugget of theoretical truth I guess being that a lot of people were trying to get as much money out the door as possible before Trump came in and destroyed everything, and then Newsmax and Breitbart seized on the opportunity to deliberately misunderstand the metaphor as something literal, and also make up a whole bunch of total bullshit out of the whole cloth.
  I didn't look too deep into it because it's clearly all gibberish. What I just typed is as far as I went. But there are links on the page, if you have some mental fortitude and want to go adventuring. I honestly don't think it's worth much time to look into.
- Looks like a grant based program to electrify housing etc. was included in the inflation reduction act, and a fund to distribute funds to grant recipients was created. I'm guessing the total funding was $20 billion, to be distributed over several years. One of the manager/admins previously worked at a group that was one of those receiving the initial set of grant funds. Claims conflict of interest without citing evidence. Another group appears to involve Stacy Abrams, and looks to have been created from other groups to carry out the kind of work the fund was designed to address. Thus, it's new and has only 1 year of tax reporting available with little revenue.
  What I'm getting out of this is that non-profit volunteers or admins who go into the federal government aren't allowed to work in their area of expertise, even with sufficient conflict of interest reporting, and that private citizens who support their preferred candidate for president aren't allowed to work with groups that recieve any federal grants, ever.

Meanwhile we need to ask what Trump is doing with $2 billion worth of gold bars.
- My guess is a toilet that only needs to flush once to get rid of those pesky classified documents.

already trying to smear a potential (she has not declared her intent to run yet) democrat candidate for georgia's open governor's race (kemp is term-limited).
- Yep, you're never going to hear the end of 'Gold Bars' or whatever from conservative media, to the point that it becomes shorthand and they just have to repeat those 2 words to get the Pavlov reaction from the base who won't even know the actual story it's based on.
  It's like the Seth Rich thing they did to Hillary.

It's obviously fabricated because everyone knows Joe Biden deals in copper

Wow. It's a list of his enemies and saying they stole gold bars.

this is nuts. how can I trust any government communication with his people at the helm.
- it's "opposite day". today, tomorrow, and every day until this nightmare ends. pretty much everything that spews out of the anuses of this administration is a lie.

So all that's actually happened is a $20 billion contract was officially disbursed - as in, transferred to a private installation. So the contract is closed.
Just to be clear, I don't believe there's enough gold bullion in existence to represent 20 billion; besides, is gold did go missing from fort Knox, we all know trump stole it.
Final note: there's no way in hell 20 billion isn't just a made up amount. Maybe 20 million? But they been caught just straight up lying about total monetary amounts.
- I think the 20 billion is the full amount that was appropriated in the IRA, to be disbursed to various NGOs. Part of which went to the specific organisation lead by Abrams. At least that's what I got by paying attention to the specific weasel words used in the 'article', chances are they're outright fabricating stuff and even that's a lie, of course.
  
  You clearly have more patience than I to read it that closely, lol. Still, a billion dollars is an inconvenience amount; it's not impossible that 20 billion was the total...but that number raises suspicion.
- Well, there's certainly enough gold bars to cover that amount, gold is stupid expensive. You're right about the rest though.
  There's about $290 billion in bullion in fort Knox, which is something like 4.5 metric tons.

Color me surprised. I guess I drastically underestimated the current monetary value of gold, mainly on account of how long ago we went off the "gold standard".
But still, it's like they fed their grievance through a stupid LLM. Very painful read.