23h ago

Why isn't anyone helping?

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Political parties are supposed to appeal to voters, not the other way around. Will post this again since people still don’t get it:
Directing the attention towards the voters instead of the democratic party is a deliberate tactic to create division among the working class. The democratic party has way more power than your neighbour who didn’t vote. Getting angry at your neighbour will only alienate them further. It’s a waste of energy.
- Thank you for succinctly expressing exactly how I feel about this.
- This ignores a very important thing: The Republicans get their votes by lying their asses off to their base. I have no doubt the DNC has the money to pay enough people to figure out the perfect lie to tell every single person here to get their vote, but no one here wants that. Short of lies, they'd have to go with their original strategy: big tent compromise. And that's means hard left compromising with centrists, and we all know that won't happen.
  So what's left? Abandon the middle? You'll just shift the non-voting demographic around.
  Maybe if the far left could organize its own political movement, but that would require "the left" to operate as a unified group, which just by looking at all the infighting here, is obviously never going to happen.
  So we have a left that won't compromise, a middle that isn't big enough to win an election, and a hard right party going full send on misinformation, voter suppression, etc.
  And the largest group of eligible voters...doesn't.
  Yeah, the answer here isn't "the DNC changing their shit", it's figuring out how to get people to give a shit about voting again.
  
  The Democrats literally campaigned with lifelong Republican leaders and doubled down on supplying a Genocide. It's not the left that's refusing to compromise.
  And this is all apologia for the Democrats trying to blame voters for the failure of the Democratic Party
  
  No this is all bs. Democrats abandoned it’s left-leaning voterbase by appealing to their donors and changing their campaign message from focusing on combatting wealth inequality and attacking the weird antitrans rhetoric to working together with republicans (???) and amplifying racist xenophobic rethoric more by constantly talking about how bad immigrants are. And of course not to forget their absolute refusal to end the genocide they were funding and sending Bill fucking Clinton to Michigan to berate Palestinians for caring about their families and friends being killed because they deserve it after Oct 7.
  
  There's no room for our system to allow a third party in. They'll just be crushed by the two other parties. It's a rigged system. Money wins. No other party will have the money to win state votes and keep them.
  
  It's not rigged, it's just the inevitable stable state of the system. The US will have to move to a different voting system for third parties to matter.
  
  Ok. We'll just get congress to vote for approving the new system......yep
  
  If you get enough actual leftist 3rd party House and congresspeople in, Dems have to make alliances with them.
  
  So your plan is to defeat democrats in democrat states going up against all the campaign funds that the democrats will provide to beat this third party; and then you think once they're congress you think democrats are going to vote with them to get lefty stuff to pass that will make this new leftist party look good?
  Hey, man. I've got some magic beans to sell you.
  
  False assumption to think that third party can just unseat Democrats. Also, the Dems had more money than God during the last election and couldn't beat Trump. Also, Dems consistently neuter their own "leftist" bills (such as the green new deal) before they're even out of committee so I don't think they're going to actually improve anything materially for me.
  You don't need to use the whole magic beans sneering talk with me, dude, we probably have the same interests at heart.
  
  I don't thing you understood what I wrote.
  
  I hope people mass dying, losing every benefit of a society, and the chaos will get people to vote.
  Stupid fucks.
  
  As the republicans make it harder and harder to vote?
  Stop blaming voters and start blaming the systems of oppression that make it impossible for us to make our voices heard. How many people were purged from voter rolls in Georgia alone this election?
  
  Problem is everyone who knew they were going to pull this shit said they would do it.
  We all said: check your registration every month, then daily a few weeks out of the election. Keep on top of that shit.

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