Why isn't anyone helping?

The dems failed to convince enough people to vote for them. The largest share of votes in the last election was for no-one. Your primary job as a political party is to convince people to vote for you. if they can't get people motivated in the face of bare faced fascism then they need to take a serious look at why their policies do not speak to americans.
Very few people who voted for Kamala weren't voting FOR Kamala... they were voting AGAINST Trump

Realistically, it's the Democrats who failed the voting public. Their campaign of "We offer you nothing!", did not seem to drag in very many undecided voters. You and I might be very politically active, but the majority of Americans are not.
You need to give them a reason to go out and vote. A lot of people have very short attention spans, and easily forgot how bad Trump was the first time around and shaming the people for their shortsightedness is not how you win elections.

fuck it. I voted dem every election and they did fuckall. We got obamacare, whoop deee doo. we have to buy insurance now. fat load of good that did.
Fuck the dems. I'm leaving and voting for some other party, and you should too. campaigning for a third party should start right fucking now, so the dems can't say "oH, ThE TiMe FoR SuPpOrTiNg a ThIrD pArTy IsN't 5 MoNtHs BeFoRe An ElEcTIoN!" Fuck you, you goddamned fake ass left party.
- Yes! This is the time to campaign for a third party, or put forward more progressive Democrats, or take a short-sighted meaningless stance on a genocide being done by someone else somewhere else.
  However, 2 years from now, in November, you need to vote for the candidate that is most able to win against the fascist ass-kissing trump sycophant, even if they aren't a 100% match for your political views or objectives.
  
  or put forward more progressive Democrats,
  Beat this drum.
  SHOW UP TO THE FUCKING PRIMARIES.
  I remember it being fucking dead in my polling place back in 2020 for the primaries compared to the general.

Democrats
Not opposing Trump, because unlike the last 40 years, we learn that a party has to have a super-majority in a government body to stop the opposing party from doing everything they want all the time.
How could non-voters do this.
- I'm not sure we can attribute this inaction to much more than the established Democrats actually stand to personally benefit from these policies. They don't really have a reason to push back because their donors are the same people in most cases (there are a few exceptions) and so many of them have the same level of gerrymandering and name recognition in their districts as the opposition.
  This is not a statement that both parties are the same. They demonstratively are not as Democrats won't typically be the ones to enact these policies but they also don't really have a reason to stop them either since things like the tax breaks personally benefit them.

Is the Democrat master plan to have a one party system? Everyone always and only vote Democrat, because if the other party of a two party system ever gets in to power we are screwed! It doesn't sound like a good plan.
You guys had a good idea with Ross Perot in 1992. Look into that (especially how he got 0 electoral college votes) and maybe you'll have a better idea of what you should be doing, instead of blaming each other.

Now is exactly the right time to criticize the dems, make them step up their game. Would be better 4 years ago, but here we are.
- Www.indivisible.org is doing some good work getting on democratic "leaders" asses to do something. They also have something called the Payback Project. They are making a public list of all of those who do nothing during this administration and will use funds to buy ads during election time showing what that specific Democrat did or didn't do.
- Totally agree "but here we are", but a better time would be 1992
  https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaanse_presidentsverkiezingen_1992
- The Dems are a minority in both the House and the Senate at the moment, they're literally powerless.
  The best time to criticize them would have been over the last two years, when they actually could have done something about the mess.
  
  Now is a great time to criticize them for their past actions and current attitudes, but a poor time to expect protection from them, on account of their minority position in the government.
  
  The Republicans seem to be able to stop a lot of things, especially if the opposing party not only doesn't control every branch of government, but doesn't have a 60+ majority of the senate with a comfortable margin to write off the {Manchins, Sinemas, Libermans, etc.}. But now suddenly a minority party can't stop their opponents from doing things, even if it is blatantly unconstitutional? It seems like the Democrats are never playing to win.
  In reality, the Democrats want this all to continue, because if Trump fucks things up enough and destroys things enough, the Democrats only appeal of "we aren't the Republicans" can for once, become a winning strategy in 2026/2028.

They should like... Be politicians though. We get they can't pass legislation, but be fucking politicians.
Republicans out of the majority make you sniff their shit daily and are all over the news cycle. Democrats seem to think it's ok to just say they're concerned and send me fundraising emails.

In American politics, it doesn't matter who you vote for, you're still getting fucked! Like choosing a broom and a stick to get fucked with.
what needs to change is the way that voting work. Or at least people to vote for someone less embarassing than Harris and less facist than trump and a lot less in favor of the capitalists in general (Bernie my beloved).
- Bernie couldn’t even win a primary.
  
  Still not convinced that wasn't rigged.
  
  they didn't let him win the primary. they had their chosen candidate, and they weren't going to let an actual progressive win.

Second highest voter turn out for a presidential election in US history.
Clearly its the voters fault.....
Also why in the broken nation is the assumption that if more people showed up they would have voted like you? I never got this concept. Please spend more effort being an opposition/resistance and less being poor losers.
- It is pathetic that among high voter suppression (due to Republican motions) the Democrats blame the people for not voting, instead of blaming voter suppression, or any of the other decades worth of inaction by Democrats to foresee and prepare for this. They have a two party system, it's not like the Republicans were a complete surprise
- Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 didn't show up to vote for Harris in 2024.
  Trump's numbers barely changed at all between the two.
  
  And I can't say that I blame them. Biden's presidency... or his campaign... or Harris' campaign...
  It was a shit-show all the way through. Maybe next time the Democrats should try catering to their voter base.
  
  Yes, and that does not imply what the democrats think it does.
- Dems will do anything to not accept responsibility for fumbling 12 years in office since 2000.
  
  I hate the us government as much as the next invasion target, but this stupid tribalism has gotten out of hand. Was this the inevitable result of a two party system (a joke pretending to be a democracy)? Maybe, but the very idea that I am expected to "pick a side" even as a outsider and that once I do half of the us will write me off is laughable.
  America, you did this. Stop trying to make it someone else's fault.
  If we are to assume that there was voting suppression, do something about it!
  If we are to assume that there was voting fraud, do something about it!
  If we are to assume that the majority of americans did not want the current administration, then do something about it!
  This should be a no brainier if you have the majority of americans against this then you should have the will and ability to do something about it.
  But you clearly don't have the majority of your nations people behind you in this, most likely don't care enough (a side effect of that two party system) or and this might shock you, that the majority of americans are really just that awful and want to watch the free world burn.
- Voter turnout being high is great for non-republicans.
- Second highest by sheer number, eighth by percent of voting eligible population.
  From your source:
  
  Why did you cut out the VEP? The very next column....
  it stands for Voting Eligible Population by the way.
  Edit, for those not willing to click a link here is the picture not cut off:
  Notice how there are 3 measurements of voter turn out? Two of which show this to have been the second highest turn out? Now does this show a larger then there should be level of disenfranchisement? Yes, so fix that!

Second highest turnout in history, but yeah, the non voters are the real issue here. Libs are so privileged they can't even imagine people living from paycheck to paycheck. "Just vote, you losing your job and becoming homeless is worth it for democracy".

I’ve been voting. Doesn’t seem to work.
- It only works in aggregate. Like how a drop of water won't quench anyone's thirst, but a 20 gallon barrel generally will.
  
  This is why I hate group projects
  
  I thought the system was to dump the barrel out at the top of a hill so you can proclaim how much you're doing for the thirsty person at the bottom.
  Trickle down, but for voting too!
  Oh, and I guess that's what Trump literally did with the water in California, except they were different hills altogether.
- Have you tried the second amendment?
  
  that's that what they call every week, when a mass shooting happens, right?
- It's mitigation.
  
  Show me the part where it mitigated giving the entire government to nazis

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
There is evidence to support widespread vote suppression is occurring by "vigilantes" knocking people off the voter registry amongst other tactics
- A third of the eligible voters didn't vote. If they had, this tiny marginal bullshit wouldn't matter.
  
  Assuming that the third would be biased toward one candidate rather than being probably just as evenly divided as those that did vote.
  We know the restrictive voting laws were biased. We do not know that the "didn't bother to vote" has the same bias.
  
  Separate reply, this isn't tiny marginal bullshit, we're talking millions of votes
  
  I don't disagree, but not like my preferred candidate was on the ballot, I still voted tho...
- Welp, that settles it.
- Don't stop at suppression when it was full manipulation.
  https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv
  
  Beyond the statistical realities that Saleh mention, the general point about drop-off is also weird.
  It implies that the GOP cheated, but declined to cheat in down ballot. This seems odd, if they had the will and capability to just change the votes, why would they skip the down ballot elections? Further another similar site pointed out the drop-off was uneven, that it was suspiciously higher in Montana than Michigan. To imply the GOP cheated more in Montana? When your theory indicates a bigger effort to cheat in a safe state than a swing state, then there's something going on.
  The drop-off effect is easily explained by the reality that people weren't voting for a Republican or a Democrat, they were voting for or against Trump. That mindset is wholly separate from Republican v. Democrat. It's almost an Apples v. Oranges to try to compare a race with Trump to it to any other race (which is why the GOP is desperate to run him again, because even they don't understand how he engages the base and he is a useful idiot).
  I'm glad to see it investigated and I wish that the voting populace didn't do what they did (and accept that without the suppression, the results might have gone the other way). However I don't think fraud has been proven in any significant degree.
  Perhaps the democrats should emphasize vote in person on election day if at all possible, and mail-in is a last resort, rather than saying "voting is easy, just mail it in". It's obvious that they are having great success in discarding legitimate mail-in ballots the way they see fit.
  
  This is bullshit and this group is likely just out there to cash in on the election. What they claim to be suspicious patterns is just basic statistics.
  If machines have a higher number of votes it is just to be expected that the spread of the results get smaller and towards the end result. The larger the sample size, the smaller the spread.
  And the early voting machines had up to 250 votes per machine, whereas the election day machines only had around 125. At least in the graphics this group used in their own report. If you scale the graphic of the early machines only until 125 votes per machine they look similar.
  Also on election day there were about 3000 machines as opposed to 1000. And here another basic truth comes up. If you repeat a sampling more often, the distribution of results becomes more even.
  These guys are just describing basic statistic effects and claiming them to be suspicious, probably to collect donations and run with the money. Also their website is dubious about who they are exactly and what their credentials are.
  There is legitimate criticisms and leads to investigate, but these guys are not one of them.
  
  Good evidence to add to the pile, thank you for bringing it up!

Political parties are supposed to appeal to voters, not the other way around. Will post this again since people still don’t get it:
Directing the attention towards the voters instead of the democratic party is a deliberate tactic to create division among the working class. The democratic party has way more power than your neighbour who didn’t vote. Getting angry at your neighbour will only alienate them further. It’s a waste of energy.
- Thank you for succinctly expressing exactly how I feel about this.
- This ignores a very important thing: The Republicans get their votes by lying their asses off to their base. I have no doubt the DNC has the money to pay enough people to figure out the perfect lie to tell every single person here to get their vote, but no one here wants that. Short of lies, they'd have to go with their original strategy: big tent compromise. And that's means hard left compromising with centrists, and we all know that won't happen.
  So what's left? Abandon the middle? You'll just shift the non-voting demographic around.
  Maybe if the far left could organize its own political movement, but that would require "the left" to operate as a unified group, which just by looking at all the infighting here, is obviously never going to happen.
  So we have a left that won't compromise, a middle that isn't big enough to win an election, and a hard right party going full send on misinformation, voter suppression, etc.
  And the largest group of eligible voters...doesn't.
  Yeah, the answer here isn't "the DNC changing their shit", it's figuring out how to get people to give a shit about voting again.
  
  The Democrats literally campaigned with lifelong Republican leaders and doubled down on supplying a Genocide. It's not the left that's refusing to compromise.
  And this is all apologia for the Democrats trying to blame voters for the failure of the Democratic Party
  
  No this is all bs. Democrats abandoned it’s left-leaning voterbase by appealing to their donors and changing their campaign message from focusing on combatting wealth inequality and attacking the weird antitrans rhetoric to working together with republicans (???) and amplifying racist xenophobic rethoric more by constantly talking about how bad immigrants are. And of course not to forget their absolute refusal to end the genocide they were funding and sending Bill fucking Clinton to Michigan to berate Palestinians for caring about their families and friends being killed because they deserve it after Oct 7.
  
  There's no room for our system to allow a third party in. They'll just be crushed by the two other parties. It's a rigged system. Money wins. No other party will have the money to win state votes and keep them.
  
  I hope people mass dying, losing every benefit of a society, and the chaos will get people to vote.
  Stupid fucks.

making it difficult to vote is a feature not a bug.
The question isn't why are they not doing anything but why didn't they do anything when they had the chance.
- Obama had the house and senate his first term and all we got was shitty healthcare and drone bombing wedding receptions. We need a new opposition party.
  
  Oh and the Dodd-Frank act regulating Wallstreet. And saving the economy from the massive financial crash with the Recovery Act. And an act that extended how long after being fired someone can file for unemployment. And new tax legislation that had tax increases to help pay for the investment in the economy with the recovery act. And around 50 other pieces of legislation.
  Plus the "shitty health care" you mentioned mandated insurance companies have to cover people with pre-existing conditions giving insurance to tens of millions of people. And extended Medicaid to tens of millions of people providing relatively cheap medical care by comparison to before. Free? No. But many went from having bills of multiple hundreds a month to just 50. Again, perfect? No. But a massive fucking improvement.
  All that in the 2 years he had both houses. Not his entire first term. Much of it was incredibly influential even if not perfect. To say we got nothing out of it is misrepresenting both what we got and what we had before.
  Edit: and increasing the minimum wage.
  
  Obama had a filibuster proof majority for a grand total of 73 days and they did Obamacare. Dems haven't had that since.
  
  He had a filibuster-proof majority for a handful of weeks, and we got better healthcare than what was already on the table. While it's not great healthcare, it's still better than before.
  That included some staunchly conservative Democrats, by the by. Many of whom were ultra "pro-life", which means abortion rights weren't gonna happen.
  Additionally, people who mention drone strikes fail to a) recognize the tech was relatively new, but not so new that it was actually affordable to the DOD, and b) each president after has had more drone strikes.
  But let's not let facts get in the way of our outage or anything.

Democrats do anything but take accountability for their mistakes any% Speedrun challenge (impossible).
Jokes aside at what point do you stop pointing the finger at everyone else and recognize that you just fucked up? Political parties aren't owed votes. They have to earn votes.
The Democrats failed to earn enough votes against Trump TWICE.
I don't even wanna hear some shit about it being a rigged election or anything. The right was screaming about 2020 being rigged for 4 years and y'all kept telling them it was ridiculous and they just need to suck it up because they lost.
The Democrats will lose again in 2028 if they do not make serious changes up and down their party.
- I don't think so. That was our future on the line. Though they may have run a more effective social media campaign spinning their fake, populist bullshit stimulating Trump cultists out in Trump country, none of that should have mattered. Regardless of a weak opposing campaign & inflation, we fucked up by not recognizing an existential threat & voting against it anyway. That's just downright stupid of us.
- Jokes aside at what point do you stop pointing the finger at everyone else and recognize that you just fucked up?
  Indeed. The democrats should recognise their mistakes, and so should the voters. Either one could have stopped this, but they both chose stubbornness.
- Jokes aside at what point do you stop pointing the finger at everyone else and recognize that you just fucked up? Political parties aren’t owed votes. They have to earn votes.
  Thanks, I love hearing that my existence has to be earned.
  
  Your existence? The fuck are you talking about?
  I'm talking about the stupid meme and Democrats once again pointing fingers everywhere else instead of looking in a fuckin mirror.
  If you (the Democrats) want to win a political race you have earn the votes from the people. They have failed to do so now multiple times.
  At some point you can't keep pointing the finger elsewhere and you have to accept that you didn't convince enough people that you were the better option.
  They need to take some responsibility instead of playing professional victims all the damn time. I'm sick of it.

One of those things where both
Nonvoters who complain that Democrats aren't doing enough to protect them are exactly the kind of entitled twats who attack what meagre defenses we have against fascism, and then whine (blaming those same defenses they themselves worked to undermine) when fascism attacks them.
AND
Dems who do nothing in this period are inex-fucking-scusable, if predictably adhering to their norms-based civility politics schtick which plays so well with suburban white folk; and Dems in general are only interested in reform insofar as public opinion forces them to support it, and not an inch further.
are true.
- Everyone is constantly making excuses for the Democrats, but if a political party had zero power except for four months out of forty fucking years you'd think we'd at least try to replace them.
  
  I wrote up a big long thing and deleted it, because fuck that.
  The country doesn't want the change we want. Not even the Dem base, not when the ads start blaring and snarl words start getting tossed around. Even significantly left-leaning states like Cali and Washington regularly reject ballot initiatives for progressive measures.
  That the Dems, milquetoast and moderate as they are, and as broad a coalition as they make, had power for 4 months out of 40 years is an aberration caused only by the massive fuck-ups of the Bush administration.
  Correctly speaking, the Dems probably should've had none.

The results at my last city vote was depressing. We had 20% turn out. Twenty! And we have mail-in by default here
Thankfully the people who did vote voted for the positive changes we need but it's not hard to imagine how easily 20% of the population can be easily swayed

While some people don’t vote out of apathy, others are a target of indirect disenfranchisement that prevents the working poor from voting.
- Others still do it because of religious dedication to the accelerationist belief that making the human experience worse will magically cause the working class to gain class consciousness and revolt. You know. Like has never occurred in recorded history...

Angry ML shouting incoming

I agree with this, but it seems to be more of a far-right nazi issue. In Germany, it was again the young, white men that turned nazi that almost won the nazis the election. Let that sink in. The nazis almost won an election in Germany. Here, we have the same issues, but with gerrymandering, voter suppression and swing state election officials cheating occasionally. It's our young white men that have a ton of energy, want to see change, and have lost their way when looking for someone to help them do that, that are our biggest threat.
Edit: I forgot to add the link to the Germany voters: https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-and-voter-demographics-explained-in-charts/a-71724186
- 21% of Young people voted for the AfD. They got 20,8% in total. Thats not a significant increase. The cohort of 35-49 year-olds turned out stronger for the AfD.
  The largest voting disparity is in the working class. 37% of workers voted for a party that would crush them.

Better off to die fighting for humanity, not "the other white..." rich politicians. The america before Trump wasn't one I wanted to live for either.
This war was going on before Obama and Bush. It's more fundamental than left and right politics. It's a mass social existential crisis in a nation that was taught to consume as a way to escape the reality of life as a human being. There is no saviour to run to. We've wasted so much time putting blind faith into mainstream pop politicians that live for "the game" and not humanity.
...except maybe Bernie.
- Bernie endorsed Kamala because he's an adult that understands accelerationism is something only idiots that have never read a history book think will bring progress.
  
  You're getting accelerationism whether you think it's dangerous or not, you better gear up and train.

The crowd that didn't vote for Kamala have mysteriously disappeared from their soapbox and went into hiding...
- I seeing us everywhere. I'm not sure what your talking about
- Hi I voted for Stein
  
  Well least you voted. If only 30 mill more decided to vote even third party it would have shook things up. They didn't even care enough about country to do that.
- Repeatedly banning people with different viewpoints will do that. You chose to become an echo chamber.
  
  Sorry I'm out of the loop.
  Who got banned for different viewpoints?
  
  Horseshit. They got what they wanted and then shut up about it.
- Da.

Uncommitted performative boTh sIDEs grandstanding couch sitters who drank a bit too much right-wing wedge-driving vodka:

- You're suggesting people should burn down the houses of trump voters...? That's how we beat Trump?
  
  Yes.
  They knew what they voted for. They knew what the plan was. They willingly elected a dictator.
  How is that not grounds for retribution??
  They've shown they're willing to be violent. They've shown they don't care if people die as long as they get what they want.
  Why shouldn't they feel that very same fear?

Obviously you're transphobic genocide lovers who demand corporate ownership of the meats of production.
(/s obvs)
- Good thing you added that /s or else I'd have to get my billionaire sponsors to test out their space lasers on you.

How much are you getting paid by the billionaires in the dnc to simp this hard for them?
- Just enough to cover my Lemmy monthly subscription.