Bill Burr calls on 'billionaires to be put down like rabid dogs' in podcast

- Why you over here just casually posting pictures of heros?
  
  The man, the myth, the legend. Just had to let more people see that smile.
  
  He's not the hero we deserve, but he's the hero we need.
- I just came across this gem:
  Link to the artist: Remember Remember
  
  Remember, remember, the fourth of December.
- And to avoid that, all they have to do is became big damn heroes by giving their money in charity, or tax, or fund a research lab or whatever way of throwing their money back out there that they choose.
  Astounding that they'd find it so detestable that they'd rather risk death in the hands of a class revolution than see their money feed kids or cure cancer or whatnot.
- 🇺🇲Mangione '28🇺🇸
- Bring back the Gilloutines

Burr 2028: Fuck This Bullshit
- He's got my vote lmao
- A comedian is running Ukraine and he's keeping them alive. Maybe America needs a Bill Burr/Jon Stewart combo.
  
  1000% Jon stewart.
  Guy fights like hell for the people that need it
- Fuck yes

Well, that is a bit excessive.
Rabid dogs are put down because there is no cure for their disease, and they cannot be controlled, and their very existence will bring harm to others and...
Nevermind.
- Yah this is really hyperbolic, the reason we "put down" vicious or dangerous animals is because we've accepted that they are what they are and we've all collectively agreed that they cannot change their nature and will always be a danger to every- ...oh. Okay, yeah I see.
  
  Yourjokebutworse

Good. Need more of this.
I do think he's quite wealthy though....
- His net worth is between $14M and $20M. That's a lot for you and me, but he is nobody for example next to musk's $400B (20,000 times more)
  
  One million seconds is a about 11 days, 1 billion seconds is just under 32 years. People underestimate the difference
  
  I mean, he is still 980 MILLION dollars away from being a mere billionaire. He is WAAAAAAAAY closer to you and me
  
  20 million is what a rich person should be not 20 billion. the latter one is more akin to cancer, hoarding resources to the extent of the suffering of everyone else.
  
  I'd consider this way; assuming the upper bound there (20m), Elon spent over 14 Bill Burr's worth helping Trump get elected, and that was pocket change to him.
  That's the difference in scale. Musk could lose everything Burr has ever owned and he literally would not notice.
  You can maybe argue that what Burr has is too much. Personally, I really don't care at this point. I'll ponder the moral rightness of the existence of millionaires when there are no more billionaires.
  
  We need to define rich. To me, 14 million is rich.
  Right now, Bill Burr could buy a house, cash, buy solar power for that whole house. And buy a new car every 5 years.
  Then just sit at home, and not do shit. Ever.
  I can't do that. Nobody I know can do that.
  
  $20M is 20,000x more than $1,000.
  Someone living paycheck to paycheck to him is about the same jump as him to Musk.
- The difference is that he isn't exploiting the labor of others to make most of his wealth. I'm not a huge fan of most celebrities, but at least most of them are actually earning their money by generating demand for their "thing."
  
  Very true. I like Bill Burr, but he's still on a lovely crested hill of property that is way out of scope of attainability from the average person.
- We need more from his class to speak up. This whole system is basically the Billionaires paying the Millionaires to keep the thousandaires hating the rest.
  
  We need to stop acting like it's the 1950's and a million is "rich". 1 million in 1950 would be equal to 13 million today, except in 1950 you could buy a fucking mansion for ~30k, with a < 30 minute commute (the official inflation figures are oligarch propaganda and off by a factor of 5-10).
  In like 30% of developed world cities a million isn't even enough to own a home without an hour plus commute. The minimum for "rich" in 2025 is a paid off home and another million in investments, which will net you about 50k a year without working (e.g. able to exit the rat race and live off capital). Even then, in the USA you need several million to buffer the likelihood of a medical condition bankrupting you...
  The VAST majority of Hollywood — especially comedians and writers — are working class and poorly paid. Even the majority of the famous ones grew up relatively average/poor. Most are not nepo babies or even in the 1%. Most are allies that are silenced or neutered by studios and production companies (capitalists) out of fear of being sued or blacklisted. Only an extreme minority of them have anything near oligarch money, and none of them made that from their labor.
  
  Hell, I’m not even a hundredaire
- I'm not sure why that matters? Pretty sure he has profited off of the fruits of his labor unless he owns some kind of orphan crushing enterprise I'm not aware of.
- In today's world a million dollars means that you're successful at what you do. Not that you own massive swaths of society like billionaires.
- 20 million seconds is: 11.5 days. 1 billion seconds is: 31 YEARS and 251 days. If you made $80,000 a year it would take you 12,500 years to get a billion dollars. Twelve thousand five hundred years.
- You're right, but I do think we'd see societal improvements long before we got to Bill Burr if we started slaughtering the richest from top to bottom. I bet after you take out the Forbes top 200 list, anyone with that kind of cash would be racing to give it up, or to disappear. Either way, sounds like a huge win for the world.
  
  Yes, like Elon Musk.
  
  200? I’m betting most charities would be set after the first 10.
- I don't care about that. And this just feels like trying to discredit what he's saying.
- We'll take class traitors of the ruling class. Not that he is one, but I'm just saying.
- There's a difference between not wanting billionaires to exist and not wanting people to be able to be rich.
  Billionaires ≠ rich, billionaire = too rich
- Bernie Sanders is out there talking about eating the rich.......he always convienently leaves out that HE HIMSELF is rich.
  I'm never sure if that's meant to say like "Yeah, I'LL pay my fair share if we get all the other rich people to do it too".
  Or if it's meant to be something that sounds good on a soundbyte that makes you angry at the rich......while you're not supposed to know HE'S rich.
  I never know what to take that context as.
  
  Bernie isn't rich. He's in the low millions, which pretty much can't even buy a home in most places anymore.
  
  He's a pedigreed professional at the top of his field at the end of his career. Literally a world class statesmen regardless of if you favor his positions. Why wouldn't such a person be worth 5-10 mil? He earned his position which can be with a strong salary... For decades. Even tame investments in the whole market would steer him handily towards that worth
  That doesn't even touch on the mountain of social good and enrichment and support of the poor that he has directly contributed to over his career
  
  Bernie doesn't say "eat the rich", you're saying that. Bernie makes specific statements about who to tax, and when and how.
  He does pay his fair share. If the richest in the US paid tax like he does, there wouldn't be a problem.
  
  I think it's possible to be 'rich' and humble.
  It may depend on how you become rich.
  
  What a brain dead thing to say. Is your whole argument that only the non rich are allowed to mention that the system is broken? Does he have to divest of all his assets before making any observations about our economic system? What a weird thing to get hung up on. This cant be real.
  
  Class analysis is the only thing that matters. Read theory and stop being a wrecker.
  
  You needn't be broke to want to end billionaires. Plenty of people clinging to their status as 'middle-class' want to end billionaires. They can be insulated AND correct.
  
  Brainrot bot comment.

I used to like Bill Burr. Now I love him.
- I still do. But I used to too.
- Honestly hate his both sides takes, but this...
  
  I don’t think you can come off as rational as he does while being partisan, you know? Plus, the left deserves some harsh words, to put it lightly lol
  
  There’s a difference between “both siding” and criticizing everything you disagree regardless of where it comes from. Bill’s humor is that of a comically grumpy character.
- I used to like him. Then I saw his post-election SNL monologue, which was dog shit. Now I think he's ok, sometimes.

Thiel should be the first to go, that asshole has been making the rounds recruiting billionaires for a takeover for years
- You can't take over what you done already own
  
  That's the whole idea
  He's planning to build a billionaire's utopia where the poor live in debtor prisons and the ultra wealthy are treated like gods
  We're in the endgame
- What’s wild is he isn’t even that wealthy for a billionaire. Musk is in the hundreds of billions level whereas this creep is only in the single digits billions. Kinda weird tbh give how evil he is.
  
  He's like the Charlie Kirk of billionaires

- The world needs more Luigis
  
  I'm glad Lemmee that doesn't ban or penalize people for mentioning the Plumber's brother.
  
  Be the change you want to see in the world. Don't let your dreams be memes

Imagine if we gave hoarders the same status we give wealthy people.
Like you're invited over for dinner.
You get to the door and ring the bell. They yell, "come in." You push the door open against 10000 stacked news papers pushing back at you. You're instantly hit with the smell of animal feces and urine. You unironically say, "wow, so decadent." You climb over a pile of furniture and to get to a small clearing in with a couch and a coffee table covered in clutter. You tell your host, "So much stuff, I'm so jealous, you truly possess all the worlds material goods." They heat up some discount canned ravioli on a hot plate because the only place in the entire house you can habitate is that small clearing with the couch.
After you finish your fine dining experience you leave and you realize you never once saw any animals.
Hoarding is a disease. Doesn't matter if it's useless garbage or the idea of a pile of money you'll never use.
- I always liked the analogy with monkeys in the zoo. Imagine there are 10 monkeys in a cage. Every day you drop in 20 oranges. After a while you realise that one monkey is sitting on a pile of oranges, hoarding them. He can't even eat all the oranges, while some monkeys go hungry. No one would think: "man that must be one smart monkey." You would think something is seriously wrong with that guy.
  
  That's an unfair representation.
  Money isn't simply given to Elon every day...
  Other people work hard for his money!
  
  ....after a couple weeks there's a dead monkey and fermented oranges though. We could learn from monkeys
- Hoarding hurts you. Amassing most of the wealth in the world hurts everyone except the wealthiest people.
  
  It hurts them. They have to isolate more. Deny certain family members. Be deceptive and cagey. Wealth is a diminishing returns thing. You don't just become more and more happier with the amount of money you have.
- Wtf is this. People dont find billionaires decadent. We know they're assholes.
  
  You might know they are assholes. At least 50% of the voting public doesn't. In fact, they think they are very smart.
- it's that how you imagine millionaires with money? Like full house stacked with dirty used paper money? :DDDDDD it's digital numbers in bank account these days. Difference between old stacked newspapers and numbers in the bank is quite astronomical. And if he will never be able to use it, so his children grandchildren and generations to come will use it and will have EZ life without problems which poverty brings.
  
  Elon Musk could lose 99.99% of his money and still have more money than 99% of Americans.
  He's done it, he's won capitalism. He can stop and never worry about money, his children would never need to worry about money, and his grandchildren would never need to worry about money. And yet he keeps obsessively hoarding more money that at this point he has literally no use for.
  It's a disease.
  
  I don't think you know how to read, bro.
  
  "Hey Google, what is a metaphor"

Bill Burr for senate
- I feel he is the only person I've seen try to go around and sound like a sane person about this shit. He let's me know I'm not crazy. I hear him from different sources too. He's not just trying for a sound bite on legacy media.
  
  Bill Burr is probably the only person I know of who didn't completely change once he got rich and famous, he's a national treasure at this point
- Bill Burr for dogcatcher.
  
  It be head of DOGE after a new administration
- I like him too much to force him to do that shitty job
- Oh, can you imagine a filibuster by Bill? Move over 'roasts' and specials, just tune in on Cspan!

Fucking based, I need more people with focus saying shit the people are thinking.

Free luigi
- With president fElon in power? Won’t happen

Maybe we collectively need to recognize billionaires like they recognize their workers. I propose the following:
“Becoming a billionaire” is still a thing that the most aggressive, ambitious sociopaths among us can aspire to. Because they and the broken people that idolize them will insist that great things cannot happen without the promise of great rewards. And obviously the only “reward” of any meaning to them is money.
Once you are a billionaire, you get a nationally broadcast pizza party on CSPAN and we engrave your name into a plaque in some “hall of smart winners” somewhere in DC. You are declared a champion of the economy and the President shakes your hand and declares a one-time national day to be in your honor. Or they read your name during the superbowl that year or whatever. Your place in history is locked in.
Assets and earnings in excess of 1 billion are seized and given to charity, or infrastructure, or healthcare or whatever. Used for the betterment of society. It should be done responsibly in a way that won’t ruin the assets, for example not liquidating billions in stock all at once.
The government publishes a leaderboard every year that shows which Champions of the Economy™️ gave the most back to society that year in the form of excess earnings. And we all pretend that we’re REALLY impressed.
They can have their on-paper status and their superficial adoration they hunger for. And they can even be stupidly rich by ANY standard.
- Can anyone argue this is not a great idea? Even by being devil's advocate, I genuinely can't see any reasons why this would be worse than it currently is for anyone. 1 Billion still grants you A LOT of luxury and influence, just about as much as any single human should reasonably ever need or desire. And the best part is that we wouldn't even need to pretend to be impressed! Imagine a parallel universe where Nole Ksum "contributed" 400 fucking billions to improving infrastructure, healthcare, and research. Wouldn't you actually like the guy who has made the world, or at least your side of it, measurably better?
  
  Yep. I didn’t want to make the post much longer, but I almost went on about how this could easily be a win-win scenario.
  The one speed bump I wonder about is that loss of shares means loss of control of the company and its board, which your “founder & CEO” types will not like.
  …but I guess reasonable people may consider that a feature, not a bug.
  And btw, thanks!
  
  Usually when people are asked when America was Great™ they'll point to the burgeoning middle class of the post-war economy of the 1950s. Sometimes they'll point to separate drinking fountains however we'll ignore racists for now. The economic nationalists won't like it when you point out the thriving economy was partly the result of other economies still receiving from war, but more importantly for the middle class there was a 94% marginal tax rate for income over $200,000 in 1945, which meant dollars were circulating and demand was created for more jobs. The trickle-down clowns who insistent the rich getting richer is good for the economy would be slightly more credible, if they weren't the very same people saying the poor demanding higher wages is bad for the economy. As Nick Hanauer put it:
  We plutocrats need to get this trickle-down economics idea behind us; this idea that the better we do, the better everyone else will do. It’s not true. How could it be? I earn 1,000 times the media wage, but I do not buy 1,000 times as much stuff do I? I actually bought 2 pairs of these pants, what my partner Mike calls my manager pants. I could’ve bought 2,000 pairs, but what would I do with them? How many haircuts can I get? How often can I go out to dinner? No matter how wealthy a few plutocrats get, we can never drive a great national economy. Only a thriving middle class can do that.
  
  But I wanted to buy my own B2 Spirit Stealth Bomberrrrr! Mommmmmmmm!
- Once you are a billionaire, you get a nationally broadcast pizza party on CSPAN and we engrave your name into a plaque in some “hall of smart winners” somewhere in DC. You are declared a champion of the economy and the President shakes your hand and declares a one-time national day to be in your honor. Or they read your name during the superbowl that year or whatever. Your place in history is locked in.
  No, you've won the game so you start over with zero dollars on level 2 (someone breaks one of your legs to make it harder).
- The more you donate the more you're celebrated. Our heros should be the people building schools and hospitals, not the people robbing them.
  
  Hack yeah, rule #4!
  It might be neat to have the rich lean into their new admirable roles and directly support the schools and hospitals publicly. If they keep their net worth down, the government does not need to seize anything.
  But then we run the risk of them pulling the shit where they donate to their own charities they control. But if we’re writing regulations to limit net worth like this, then writing the regulations about where they can send the money seems simple in comparison.
- You are quietly woodchippered off screen.

CEOs could maintain control of society while avoiding bad press simply by providing people with what they need—living wages, healthcare, and secure retirement plans. They could still rule while ensuring a fairer system. BUT THEY WONT.
- living wages
  We should start saying respectable wages instead of living wages.
  Nobody should be living off of beans and rice while there are billionaires in the world.
- No, any CEO that tried to do this would get eaten alive, if not immediately by their board/investors then a bit later by competition from more ruthless ceos. In a capitalist system they literally have no other choice.
  I don't really see any way to fix it from the inside. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better, and not by methods they're going to like. I'm with bill burr here
  
  Worked for Rockefeller. Dude was probably richer than Musk with inflation considered, and practically threw money towards charities (admittedly, using that money to improve cost of living and wages would have been better, but the rich gotta make their hoard still)
- They won't, because greed doesn't get punished. Even worse, the law protects money. And the sociopaths/narcissists/psychos are the ones getting rich (of course) and the don't have empathy, care, or believe in 'fair'.
- Because they look down on you.

So I guess he’s not welcome on Joe Rogan anymore?
- Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't listened to Joe Rogan in a decade, but I dont think Bill Burr has been invited on since he (hilariously) called out Joe's anti-vax views back in 2020
  
  Based on this newsweek article, that happened around June, 2020. Looking at the JRE website, I think Bill Burr got invited on one more time in December 2020, but hasn't been on since.
- Joe Rogan is what right wingers think Jimmy Fallon. Brings elites on his show and sucks up to them.
  
  To be fair, a lot of left wingers think that about Jimmy Fallon too.

The rich are not the problem, the wealthy are the problem. I like the way Chris Rock put it: 'Shaq is rich... The white man who signs his check is wealthy.'
Millions of people could be up there with Bill Burr, if a few hundred wouldn't hoard over half of all wealth in the country.
- I would sleep just as well if Shaq's top marginal rate was 90%.
  
  At least Shaq worked hard at playing basketball instead of working hard at exploiting workers for their wealth.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_bourgeoisie#Role_in_fascism
  Not a Marxist by any means, but the man had some interesting ideas.
- Chris Rock says a lot, he somehow managed to make The Slap™ about white people.

Man Bill Burr went from being a heel edgelord to a champion of the working class. He's a true American.
- When he called out the Catholic Church he became a champion.
  
  For me, it was his takedown of Bill Marr on Palestine. Not many who would tell Bill Marr to his face to shut up and actually get him to do it.

Bros humor is salty as hell but i like it. Kinda a hookers and cocaine kind of leftist.
- Salty with a hint of Carlin.
  He got very tired of peoples BS towards the end of his career, I hope Burr can keep up the energy, we sorta need it right now.
- I've heard the terms "vulgar" and "dirtbag" to describe this kind of lefty. I'm down for it.

Not the first nor the last time Burr has made similar comments on the billionaires place in American politics. He is right though.
- Maybe we should put him in charge. It'd be better than trump AND principled leadership. Probably also entertaining. Theres nothing more American than that.

common bill burr w
- More like rare bill burr w
  
  Bill Burr hilarious take on Politics, SJW's, Crazy Liberals & Conservatives and Socialism (2m:38s) (7 years ago)
  "I'm a big believer in helping out people that need help, but I'm also a big believer that at some point you gotta like quit your whining because no one gives a fuck about you or your dream. Ok? It's up to you to care about it so at the end of the day you gotta make shit happen.
  (full interview if anyone wants it)

Hello? Is this the based department?
- I don't know what based means but I like it.
  
  https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based
- I'm sorry, the based department has been temporarily shut down by doge.

When life gives you billionaires, make billionnaise.

Highly based

America needs the next Luigi!
- Everyone can be the next Luigi if they want to... In fact, we shouldn't be waiting for a hero to come along or else it'll never happen.
  That's what Luigi did. And that's the lesson we should remember.
  
  So when will you be doing it?
- If you aren't ready to be the one then stop fucking calling for someone to step up. Coward ass statement.
  
  I'm not American. Maybe figure out where someone is from before making a coward ass statement!

Billionaire dont deserve our respect nor loyalty. They can go fuck themselves for all I care. Dogs however are loyal and love us unconditionally.😂
- Rabid ones will kill you though.
  
  Rabid dogs are also themselves suffering so much that putting them down is a mercy.
  
  so fucking true which is why we as humans need to increase funding for a crew to help more humans and animals alike.😭

Yep, let people make all the money they want, but once you hit 10 billion, you get luigi'd.
- I think the limit is in the millions.
  
  Honestly 50 million is plenty for any individual.
  
  Right, I would say the limit should be "no billionaires" so that if your net worth including investments exceeds $999M then you have to sell off some property or give money to the taxman until you are under $1b net worth. $999 million is still more money than anyone would ever need but just having no billionaires would be a great start.
  
  Even 1 billion works. You have to make it high still, or everyone will say "bu-bu-but that's communism"
- put that limit at 100 million please
  
  Still way more than any single person could spend in a lifetime
- Stop thinking in terms of dollar amounts, think in disparities or ratios over minumum wage/poverty line for an economic region/group
  Figure out what our actual acceptable limit is and keep it there despite number of units as that will just need to be continually adjusted
  Edit: crap not who i meant to reply to. Still applies though so ill leave the comment
- 10 billion? I can't see how someone realistically would needs more than 10 million, but okay, let's set the limit to 500 million. A ridiculous amount of money.
  But 10 billion? That's an unspendable amount.
  (And to think we will see trillionaires (1,000,000x million) in our lifetime...)

- My guy, if you keep posting like this you're going to get a visit from the secret service
  
  I appreacite your concern, but is there something substantial to fear?
  I have not crossed the line into credible death threats; this is first amendment protected speech. If I get a visit from the secret service I will consider it a win for having wasted their time.
  And if Trump starts rounding up "online leftists agitators" or "antifa" or whatever to put in his concentration camps, I'll probably already be in the camps for a different reason.
  
  Really hope they're posting from Venuzuela or Antarctica or orbit rn.
- Did... You just endorse shooting a child to achieve your goal? Are the mods awake???
  
  No gods no masters no mods because they're very sleepy rn
  
  We kill children every day to achieve political goals. The problem is when you endorse it. What we have learned is that you first condemn it, then you do it any way, you achieve some goal and refuse to comment or spin it so it's actual the other parties fault. This way there is no issue.
  
  is it not parody?
  
  They appear not to be, but I am trying to inform them.
  
  Every "voot bloo no matter hoo" person says the same thing...
- Did anyone that upvoted this see this line? WTF:
  If there are human shields preventing your mission, eliminate them. The tree of liberty must be watered by the blood of tyrants and innocents. X ÆA-Xii is not an innocent child, he is a shoot-through.
  
  Nothing WTF about it, the trolley problem math is overwhelming. If you can kill one person to save a million, it is immoral to abstain.
  If you won't kill the king because his child prince is an innocent, then you will be a peasant forever.
  
  I sure hope they didn't. My faith in humanity drops to new lows daily, though.
- Heroes do not murder children.
  
  I consider the Soviets and Americans who defeated the Nazis to be heroes, and they murdered a whole heap of children.
  Only Sith deal in absolutes.
- No, every single person would be a 'thousandaire'.
  383,000,000,000 divided by 335,000,000 is 1,143 dollars per person.
- I'm not sure the best place to post this, but I would like to say I do regret this comment.
  My honest intention was to make a provocative post that would generate a discussion on ethics and morality in the age of Luigi and Elon. My intention was to lay out a hypothetical scenario "if anyone wants to become a hero.." but with sober hindsight I now see how my words could be misconstrued into a call for violence, and that is deeply regrettable.
  I was recently prescribed a new muscle relaxant for my rheumatoid arthritis, and I mixed it with a couple alcoholic drinks for the first time. The result was not some drastic change, but I did become unfiltered, sloppy, and inaccurate with my words, and I will not be making this mistake again.
  In the future, I do intend to continue making provocative comments, but I am committing myself to no longer discussing violence in this context.

Bill Burr has always been Based.
- Eh not always. He's shown a lot of personal growth in the last 10 years, maybe 15. He saw the problems at the time but he had some Boston blinders of misogyny and misattributed the cause a lot. He seems to have fixed it. Therapy did wonders for him it seems.
  
  He also spoke about positively about his current partner for his rehabilitation.

Me: EAT THE RICH! Bill Burr: I got you fam...
To be clear, the 1% I am speaking about are NOT the 1% of your neighborhood, county, or city(necessarily). I speak of the Global 1%. The 1% that make your retired home owning uncle with just under 1million in his retirement look like the firmly lower middle class that he is.
- The global 1% have much less money than the country's 1%
  
  Yeah, I looked up some random articles and it looks like for the US it takes $5-10+ million to be in the top 1% of net worth, while globally I saw numbers under one million.
  And according to one article that’s a bit old, $100K net worth puts you in the top 10% globally, and just $5,000 puts you in the top half.
- The global 1% include a whole lot of innocent “middle class” people in wealthier countries, like the uncle in your example.
  I think maybe you mean the global .01%?
  
  I think they mean the $100 million to billionaire class. Or at least I've always taken it to mean that, no one in any fabricated middle class will be harmed.
  
  It's a common phrase used to refer to them. If you didn't know that you don't belong in this conversation. If you did know that and were still a prick you're being disingenuous.

The least we can do is give them mock trials and public executions.
- One could make the argument that they barely did that for us. Fuck 'em

Dumb shit clueless billionaires: "I've rented a house for a vacation once, they want $21,000 a week!?"

Disagree. Rabid dogs who must be euthanized deserve care, compassion, and respect when doing so. Rabies isn't a life choice a dog makes.
Billionaires deserve no such care, compassion, or respect.
also did Bill Burr ever apologize for all the transphobic shit he's said recently? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with anyone of any walk of life gaining class consciousness, especially if they talk about it. But it'd be even better if he's stopped being transphobic on top of that.
- What did he say that was transphobic? The only Great comedian I've heard do that was Chappelle
- I'm pretty sure the only anti lgbtq comments bill burr has ever made was a bit about how when you watch something intimate the mind tries to place you in the scenario and when it's two guys kissing it's really hard to stomach, but Bill Burr has always leaned left and I honestly doubt he cares in the slightest about other people's gender or sexuality

Billionaires should not exist. You don't get to be a billionaire without exploiting people - for that matter once you get over about 10M you're probably stepping on people, or exploiting systems, in order to continue growing your wealth. And why, exactly? It's a sickness that gets worse the richer someone gets. It's been studied and confirmed that people who have excessive wealth convince themselves that they deserve it, they earned it individually, and that they are special and more valuable than others. So instead of riding off into the sunset, they feed their addiction by buying outsized and unearned power in order to shape the laws so that they can make more money. Just fuck off already - you won at capitalism, now get the fuck out of the way and stop screwing over everyone else and making our lives miserable.
Beyond 100M we should just take it all for the state. 100% tax rate. If you want to keep earning beyond that, then great, you will have the glory of contributing to the public good.
But since billionaires have convinced idiots to advocate against the idiots' own interest, and argue that the billionaires can't be constrained in any way, then this will never happen in the current social context. So next best thing is to do as Bill says. Put the fear of God into them.
- How does one put the fear of god into them?
  
  I assume this is a rhetorical question.

Super Luigi time!

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To me it’s not about being “rich” or a billionaire, it’s about staying “Rich” by exploiting others OR the law. Trump is a prime example of human trash that has millions(Or billions if you believe him) but he’s just about the poorest person I have ever heard of him you measure his integrity.
- I don't have a problem with a billionaire that is so successful that they are constantly throwing millions at other people's problems to solve them and can't stop making more money because they pay great wages with great benefits and produce great products at fair prices.
  Problem is that type of billionaire is a fantasy.
  
  A theoretical such ideal billionaire would realize their employees generate much more surplus value than they're paying them in wages. They'd therefore increase the wages so much so that they're not a billionaire anymore. Instead their employees would be millionaires or more.
  
  They’re quite rare, but a few do exist, we just never hear about them.
  People like Chuck Feeney, who ‘gave away his fortune in secret for many years, choosing to be anonymous, and donating more than $8 billion in his lifetime.’
  The famous ones hoarding wealth are all sociopaths.

We had an economic plan for this almost a century ago. It was called the "euthenasia of the rentier class" advocated by john Maynard Keynes. I guess we didn't expect the rentier to also control the financial system.

Hey! In a labor camp they can learn the meaning of a days hard work.
- A not so sweet reminder that the US had concentration camps, one of them being the infamous Manzanar camp in California that housed Japanese-American citizens as their property were seized and sold to the public. Not too long ago, eh?
  
  Also, the law that they used for that was never repealed.

Bill Burr's project to turn every mansion into Luigi's Mansion

Love Bill. The Monday morning podcast got me through the pandemic.

Im scared for my ole bald Billy. He has to be careful.
- "The real damage is done by those millions who want to "survive." The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don't want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won't take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don't like to make waves — or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honor, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It's the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you'll keep it under control. If you don't make any noise, the bogeyman won't find you. But it's all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn." -Sophie Scholl of the White Rose
- Oh shut it, billionaires have to be careful. Wtf you scared about?
  
  Because Billionaires dont follow the laws. I don't think every Boeing whistleblower died the way the media tells the story.

1.5 people died during hurricane Katrina.
For every billion in a billionaires hands, how many lives are lost? It can probably be quantified.
Using this paper, we can calculate a number of deaths per megawatt of energy consumed (using global averages). If the planet consumes 17,000 TWh annually, and there are 10 million deaths annually, thats about 0.0006 deaths per MWh.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33577774/
Just quick and dirty numbers but from some lazy searching the following companies used..
Samsung: Nearly 30 TWh in 2023. Google: Approximately 25 TWh in 2023. Microsoft: Around 23.5 TWh in 2023.

Samsung:
30,000,000 MWh×0.0006 deaths per MWh=18,000 deaths

Google:
24,000,000 MWh×0.0006 deaths per MWh=14,400 deaths

Microsoft:
24,000,000 MWh×0.0006 deaths per MWh=14,400 deaths
Now these big tech companies don't all use fossil fuels, but we're just trying to get into a ball park... so lets continue as if they had used all fossil fuels.. Samsung:
18,000 deaths/ 17.92 billion USD≈1,004 deaths per billion USD

Google (Alphabet):
14,400 deaths/ 94.2 billion USD≈153 deaths per billion USD

Microsoft:
14,400 deaths/ 69.02 billion USD≈209 deaths per billion USD
So we can estimate some where between maybe 100 and 1000 deaths per billion dollars for these tech companies. Now of course how you make those billions matters (maybe). For example, we can do the same thing with Exxon mobile, which represents 3.7% of global emissions. 10,200,000 deaths×0.037≈377,400 deaths. 377,400/ 37 billion, Exxons 2024 profits gives us 11,200 deaths per billion.
We can of course also divide this out to get to about how much profit is generated before a single person dies. Maybe this could be considered the lower limit where profit extraction should be considered criminal
In the lower end scenario, it would be at between 6.5 million dollars and one million dollars in profit extraction would relate to at least 1 lost life. Obviously extremely rough numbers, but if we look at some one like Musk, allegedly worth 500 billion, that would relate to between 100k and 500k deaths their profit extraction is directly responsible for.
And of course this is only from particulate matter emissions from emissions. There are many, many other externalizes not quantified here. It also isn't fully representative because, yes, many companies do purchase renewables (Amazon claims to be renewable) but this probably gets us close enough to start having a more serious dialogue about the relationship between extractive capitalism and consequences to human life. Based on these back of the napkins, it would seem like every billionaire should be considered responsible for, at a minimum, at least one lost life.
And to put that into Hurricane terms, Elon Musk represents around 300 hurricane Katrinas.
- 1.5 people died during hurricane Katrina.
  This figure is highly inaccurate unless I’m missing the point of something, but I’m guessing it’s a typo?
  1,392 deaths according to https://www.nola.com/news/hurricane/how-many-people-died-in-katrina-toll-reduced-17-years-on/article_e3009e46-91ed-11ed-8f2a-a7b11e1e8d34.html
  
  Maybe they meant 1.5K?

time for an old yeller solution.

Yeow, going French Revolution on this one. I don't mind wealthy people, but they cannot continue to fuck around with income distribution.

The link is currently down for me though. I tried to get it through archive.org but it's taking a while.

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Hell fucking yeah

waow..

As usual, lots of people in this thread calling for other people to sacrifice on their behalf by assassinating someone.
And as I said in response to someone, I do not think assassination solves systemic problems, but if you do, expecting else to go to prison (or die) for you is ridiculous.
- I think that it's time we stopped putting the expectation on the working class to avoid violence while the ruling class and the state can use violence against us every single day.
  I talked about what constitutes violence in another thread, but needless to say violence and the threat of violence is constantly used against us. Eviction, starvation, execution by police, denial of healthcare, denial of warmth and shelter, these are all kinds of violence that are used against the working class all the time. These things kill us, we die when we are evicted onto the street in the cold of winter. Or when our wages stagnate and we cannot afford food or healthcare. Or when some have disabilities and cannot produce endlessly for the ruling class. Those things cause death. Murder in its purest form.
  We are systematically discouraged from perceiving them that way because if we did, we would see violence in return as justified. We have every right to riot against the conditions imposed upon us. We have every right to violently resist the rule of the state and the ruling class. I agree that assassination won't fix the system because the system is broken all the way down to its foundations. Merely executing one billionaire won't magically fix this. The ruling class will never give up their position within society, however. There are no conditions in which the ruling class will relinquish their capital or return any amount of power to the working class. For the sake of not breaking any rules of this community, I'll end that thought there.
  
  I will say that it's super easy to say "someone else (not me) should assassinate these guys". I think that's the biggest gripe, that people are all too willing to volunteer other people to take the risks while themselves shying away. Either you personally are willing to take the advocated action or if you think "well for me, personally, the risk isn't worth it", well then maybe if it isn't worth the risk to you, you should not be advocating that it is worth the risk to others.
- What makes you believe that there aren't other people out there right now trying to figure out what the movements are of a particular CEO or billionaire are, so they can be near them with a gun or a bomb?
  In unrelated news...
  
  I have no idea if there are or there aren't. I do know there are lots of people here expecting others to sacrifice their lives and their freedom so the people here don't have to.
  I'm not sure what relevance it is that others are less lazy about doing what they believe absolutely has to be done.
- No, it doesn't. Luigi is a tragedy, that boy is facing life in prison, and for what? A lot of people are parroting his name, but have they stuck their necks out too? No
  I'm not against collective use of force if done appropriately, but people are generally cowards and lone actors are almost always left hung out to dry.
- That was an execution after the revolution had already been fought. A more apt comparison would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Alexander_II_of_Russia

Incidentally, if anyone out there works as a PA or driver or something to one of these billionaires, tomorrow is "bring your piano wire to work day".

Nah, just tell them they can never have more. It would hurt them worse.
- They can always drive lyft on weekends if they want a little walking around money to go see a picture show.

That's not something to joke about in these crazy times. It's disgusting.
- Tell me then what's more disgusting? Not being able to afford an inhaler. Or what Bill Burr said here?
  
  Obviously making your employees piss in bottles is better than criticising people that make their employees piss in bottles.

Stop with this obsession with billionaires, damn. Who cares lol
- They won't notice you defend them
  
  They won't notice you insulting them either lol
- Well, the current system is unsustainable. See history. So if you don't care now, somewhere in the future you will. You can't keep ignoring the problem hoping it goes away.

We also need a free and fair market where capitalism actually works
- Capitalism = free market. Unfortunately. The current system works perfectly. It is not sustainable and the rich get corrupted more and more, but that's capitalism for ya.
  Fair? What's that? That doesn't exist in nature or in greedy man. Fair is a societal construct. Paper beats rock, money beats fair.
  
  Capitalism = free market.
  That's only true in a limited sense in any existing capitalist system. If your definition of "free market" is a competitive market with no artificial barriers to entry, that is impossible without state regulation-- otherwise oligopolies emerge followed by regulatory capture. If your definition of "free market" is an unregulated market, it will almost immediately stop being competitive and will be captured by the big players who will manipulate it in their own interests. So there you go, two definitions of "free market," and existing capitalist systems are neither.
- Capitalism works perfectly well, we just don't like it
  
  There is an ideal within capitalism in that regulators keep competition between firms up, and stops monopolistic practices. Under such a system, companies and consumers interests are wholly aligned and this benefits the lower-to-upper middleclasses very well, with some fringe benefits for the working class too.
  It is this stasis snapshot of the market that people refer to when they say capitalism can work. I'm not wholly against it, I just sort of feel that regulatory capture is hard to fight against and that any stable capitalistic system will devolve into a monopoly/cartel if given enough time.
  
  Capitalism needs another system that it has to compete against, or else it starts eating itself
- lol
- This is a fantasy

He has an estimated net worth of $14 million.
Remember kids: don't fly too close to the sun.
- And the people he's talking about have multiple billions.
  $999,999,999+
  $14,000,000 is a lot. But that's construction company owner money. Not buying whole rows of politicians money.
- This is the same level of bad faith arguing as claiming Bernie sanders is a wealthy millionaire.
  He’s definitely the poorest senator and given how long he’s been in congress that’s saying something when most of his peers are filthy rich and compromised.
  He on the other hand wrote a book and inherited property through his wife.
- You've got lots more in common with a guy who has 14 million than a guy with 100 million and that's still ten times less than a billionaire.
- He's a whole fourteen uncles!