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‘‘Nobody Elected Elon Musk Act’’: Dems float legislation to make Musk liable for DOGE's actions

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Summary

Democrats Stansbury and Raskin introduced the “Nobody Elected Elon Musk Act,” which targets Elon Musk’s dismantling of federal services through the DOGE cost-cutting scheme.

It seeks personal liability for Musk, amid lawsuits and concerns over sensitive data access.

The proposal aims to protect taxpayers and critical federal operations against unauthorized actions.

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Or alternatively:
The "Every trump voter knew about 'DOGE' and the billionaire that would be leading it if trump won, and still voted for this bullshit, and they are 100% at fault" Act of 2025?
"Didn't vote for it" feel like just a way for trump voters to dodge responsibility. They did vote for it. They knowingly voted for the puppet (trump), and the nazi puppeting it. This is 100% on trump voters (that and the conservative media).

No one elected Hitler either - he was appointed chancellor by German president Hindenburg.
We've been following the pre-Nazi playbook to the letter, and an octogenarian just handing out a fuck-ton of power to a vocal shitstain is one of the many parallels.
- When I toured the concentration camp at Dachau some years ago, the tour guide was very clear on this point: people did elect the Nazis.
  In 1932, the Nazi party became the largest party in the German parliament, with 37.3% of the vote. It is true that it was not mandatory to make Hitler chancellor, but as the head of the largest party, it would have been expected.
  The Nazi party received massive support in democratic elections, where the expectation of the voters would have been that if the Nazi party gained enough seats, Hitler would become chancellor.
  This is an important point to me, as it shows that it is possible for democratic elections to result in a fascist government that dismantles democracy. Ignoring this historical example prevents us from applying the lesson to new situations.
- There are some differences.
  Hitler was relatively young and had about as much of his mental faculties as he ever did. Trump is old and senile. I'm not sure his handlers are even giving him the password to his Xhitter account anymore. Most of the posts are how Trump would have talked 20 years ago; barely literate, often childish, but meet a basic level of coherency and sentence structure. With Trump himself off to the side, the people working in the background don't have to have their plans fucked with by the whims of the fascist in chief. He can play golf and watch Fox News all day, and they're all good with it as long as he signs the papers they bring him.
  He'll also die of natural causes in the not too distant future, and they don't have anyone else who can galvanize support the way Trump does.
  
  If history rhymes then Trump is Hindenburg and Musk is the young unelected Hitler.
- I also think they mixed in the fallout series lore.
  
  Ironically, Fallout had nothing like the propaganda tools we have today. Hitler would have drooled over Twitter, TikTok, Meta, Google's, and a few influencer's grip on the collective psyche.
  
  I all fairness, Hitler didn't get the opportunity to add atomic bombs to his playbook. He tried.

This is NOT what I meant when I said NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! I meant POOR BROWN ONES not RICH ones STEALING my Social Security Information!
- Why is nobody opening any action against Musk's legal status? He'll probably win, but anything in his defense would set precedent for defending other immigrants.

Throw the fucker in jail

Not even gonna get to a vote. No one in the GOP cares. Good effort guys.
- Gee, I guess you should tell your representatives to just roll over and give up, is that what you suggest? As for me, and my representatives, phone calls every day. (https://www.5calls.org/) Protestors at the state capitol EVERY DAY. But sure, you do you. I'll be there, jumping back and forth fast enough that it looks like there are two of us, to make up for you slacking. And when you've had your down time, when you've recharged yourself, maybe think about joining us.
  
  Oh fuck off with your righteousness. Your calls do nothing and you know it. If the representatives don’t already know they should be fighting tooth and nail they’re a lost cause.
- Doesn't matter. The most important thing for dems to do right now is signal they don't like this. Their goal is getting the house in 2026 so they can run hearings for the second half of the Trump presidency.
  
  An even better goal is to grab a few senate seats too so they can go for a possible impeachment.
- Defeatist
- It got a news article. That's better than crying in the fetal position for another 2 years.
  They need more of this. How about an "Anti-Enabling Act"?
- Thanks Copernicus

How about get rid of Qualified Immunity?

Kinda sad ya gotta legislate something that friggin obvious

Democrats finally noticed the clown show? Musk’s been playing meme-stock messiah while regulators snoozed. Now they’re scrambling to write laws that should’ve existed before letting a hype-man cosplay as economy-in-chief. Newsflash: billionaires aren’t your friends.
This bill’s a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. Musk’s empire thrives on legal gray zones and fanboys who think SEC stands for “Suggestions Eventually Cancelled.” Meanwhile, Dogecoin’s just his latest grift—digital confetti for pump-and-dump sycophants.
Democracy’s a joke? Obviously. But watching Dems pretend to rein in their own Frankenstein? Peak comedy. Next up: laws ensuring water’s wet.

Can some person explain why they can't just go to the police and have him arrested? Why do these empty actions?
- Not sure if you are being serious or not. Police do not exist in society to protect the people, they exist to protect the rich.
  Any police officer who attempted to arrest one of the richest people would immediately be hit with a lawsuit, likely lose their job within a couple days, and be shunned by the rest of their gang. Not to mention the situation could easily escalate given that most rich people have private guards who are equally armed to defend themselves in case of any Luigi’s.
  Additionally police don’t tend to just go arrest high profile people without a lot of justification for doing so ahead of time, such as an arrest warrant, and lots of paper work.
  If someone went to a police precinct and told them to arrest him, they’d probably first get a good laugh out of the people behind the desk, and then told to leave immediately.
  
  True, all rich people have escaped the law, not a single one behind bars, ever, I never realized that!
- You kiddn'? He's rich and white. He's like Mr. Nimbus; he controls the police!

This NEEDS to happen.

Oh look, another act. What we really need is
acttion
- Yeah, why try to create legislation when they could be posting on social media.
  
  Said no one.

Ok, sure, but wouldn't he just get a pardon? Isn't this why the duo of the world's richest man and the most corrupt(able) president so perfectly sinister? Feels bad man
- You can’t pardon away a law. They’re seeking liability not criminal punishment and conviction.
  It’s not really intended to cause Musk harm, but to force Republicans to explicitly vote for musks continued assholery
  
  but to force Republicans to explicitly vote for musks continued assholery
  You say that as though it'll cause even a second of hesitation from those shitstains to enthusiastically vote for musk's continued assholery...
- A President can pardon federal criminal convictions. He can't erase civil liability if people personally sue Musk.

nice. which Congress is going to pass this
- crickets chirping*

They know they can't do anything, but everyone was yelling "Do something!".

Dumb name. Agree, but dumb name.
- NEEMA? It sounds fine. Dems are trying to do something and you bitch about the name.
  
  It’s not like I’m making a big stink about it. I just think it’s a dumb name and it gives more spotlight to musk which he craves. It also puts the focus on him. We’ve already heard the conservative refrain: “we didn’t elect fauci!” Yes it’s a false equivalency. Yes it’s in bad faith. But the musk-focused name is meant to be a PR signal and it’s a bad one. Call it something about how we don’t elect people like him period. Make it about how “the voters choose who runs things.”
  The name is deliberate. It’s a part of the strategy. I am allowed to critique strategy, and I think my point here is valid. That is in no way counter to supporting their acting on this.

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acttion