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Can someone explain this? Keyloggers???
Playing devil's advocate here. Mouse movements and key presses have been commonly used as bot detection method for a decade now. Like that captcha service that is just a checkbox, that's part of how they guessed that you are not a bot.
Yeah, no. I mean yes - that's true, and yes it's a way to detect bots, and no I'm not going to allow that wherever possible.
Damn it we need Private-R1 now
This is true for the deep seek app, not the published network.
Fuuuuck that.
Expect to see this in more applications, especially when dealing with AI. Why do you feel like you’ve noticed an uptick in having to complete captchas on every website you visit?
It’s an easy way for them to validate if you’re human or some competitor AI/scraper bot that’s trying to train on their data.
OpenAI is so scared about the possibility of DeepSeek distilling their model, I guarantee they are adding a keystroke/key pattern recognition system into their own front ends to combat it. If it’s not there already which would surprise me.
Expect your privacy to continue to be eroded in the name of profit technological progress.
Wait but distillers will surely usw the API instead oft the Frontend, right?
Of course – if the AI is supposed to give you an answer, they have to know what you are writing, so yes, logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with. You cannot get an answer without asking.
The wording is strange, though, and I'm not sure whether this ToS allows them to collect and process what you are typing while using their service, or all your typing.
logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with
No, it is not. Services expect the "complete" payload, whether a prompt, a text message, or whatever, it doesn't matter if you typed it, if you copy-pasted it or something else. None of them need to analyze stuff you've typed, deleted and never sent.
Keystroke patterns and rhythms is above and beyond, though. That's not remotely necessary and the kind of thing that can only be used to track an individual across multiple platforms and attempts at anonymity. I don't know how effective it is at that, but that is the sole purpose unless maybe they are training a better autocorrect tool and think that would be helpful.
At any rate, that's the point where I noped out. They are completely honest about putting every effort into identifying users and associating them with real identity. Such a system would be quite capable of de-anonymizing marketing profiles, health data, etc. by correlating vast amounts of data.
Is there a tech focused summary on everything about DeepSeek and the situation with OpenAI?
Fireship maybe? It is not that complicated, they just make a good cheap AI and big tech is panicking because they can only make good expensive AI